Corn Glycerin question.
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Oh yes it is...many juice mfrs use it instead of PG to thin their juices...epipemods comes to mind in their pipe sauce line. Except for the small amounts of PG in some of the flavorings, my juices contain virtually no PG. ED: I should say many of my juices contain very little PG...there's some store bought squeezins' I like that have whatever the vendor puts in 'em...but in my own concotions I trend as far away from PG as I can...But distilled water isn't an alternative to PG.
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I've heard and used DW to dilute juice but I've never heard it called a PG alternative. PG is to enhance flavor and add TH and DW does neither but If I'm mistaken I bow to your wisdom.
For those of you who may be daring, consider DW as your base. I've tried DW/VG at ~93/7. I don't recommend it as a satisfying vape.
...I'm vaping an 85/15 right now (VG/PG)...oh wait you tried vaping 93 percent water? Why? I wouldn't recommend that either. ED: Err...I meant VG/DW...
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PG IMO is more a carrier/solvent for flavors and a thinner to make juices wick better...there are certainly some devices that work better with more PG, but as I drip more than I use tanks, the higher VG juices work better for me. TH is subjective...whatever floats your boat...all of this of course is a personal preference, but I note many with PG sensitivity issues do the same. I'll add that it is more difficult to flavor higher VG ratio juices than lower viscosity PG...I've heard and used DW to dilute juice but I've never heard it called a PG alternative. PG is to enhance flavor and add TH and DW does neither but If I'm mistaken I bow to your wisdom.
Nah...2.5 ml of water spread out over a week as a vapor from a 15 ml batch? I get more water vapor than that each night from my CPAP machine...You might get pneumonia vaping that much water.I need my nic thank you.
You might get pneumonia vaping that much water.
Oh yes...nic of course. Actually, let me restate what I said. It was about 75% DW and 25% VG. The VG had 100mg/ml of Nic in it. The mix was about 25mg/ml of nic. The DW experience was not a lot of fun. New suitable bases need to be found, but DW won't be among them.
I see I apparently wasn't clear... I never meant DW as a base...just as a thinner (dilution)...my apologies. I'm apparently off in my own little world this evening.I've heard and used DW to dilute juice but I've never heard it called a PG alternative. PG is to enhance flavor and add TH and DW does neither but If I'm mistaken I bow to your wisdom.
Of course if you use PG as your base (and perhaps your nic carrier) DW would be a bit of a problem. Thinning VG with DW (vice PG) as an alternative....
In the MSDS they call it Corn Glucose = Corn Syrup
I hope it is not that.
There is glycerin being produced from corn:
Pure Organics Glycerin™ is designed to be completely sustainable, natural and carbon neutral. Our farms, all our inputs, and our processing facility are all certified organic. Organic corn is naturally fermented to produce organic glycerin. We also recycle the all-natural byproducts of the process as nutrients for the very farms that grow our corn, and to farms raising organic livestock.
We start with certified organic corn, which is processed into starches and sugars. Husks, cobs, processing liquids, enzymes, and other biomass byproducts of this process are sent to an organic farm to be fed to animals. The manure and biogas from the animal farm are then sent back to fertilize the organic corn farm. The starches and sugars from the corn then undergo our special, patented natural fermentation process, resulting in pure, clean USP grade organic glycerin. Even the water used during the final refinement process is purified and recycled back into production.
Certified Organic Glycerin @ Draco Natural Products
I hope it is not that.
There is glycerin being produced from corn:
Pure Organics Glycerin™ is designed to be completely sustainable, natural and carbon neutral. Our farms, all our inputs, and our processing facility are all certified organic. Organic corn is naturally fermented to produce organic glycerin. We also recycle the all-natural byproducts of the process as nutrients for the very farms that grow our corn, and to farms raising organic livestock.
We start with certified organic corn, which is processed into starches and sugars. Husks, cobs, processing liquids, enzymes, and other biomass byproducts of this process are sent to an organic farm to be fed to animals. The manure and biogas from the animal farm are then sent back to fertilize the organic corn farm. The starches and sugars from the corn then undergo our special, patented natural fermentation process, resulting in pure, clean USP grade organic glycerin. Even the water used during the final refinement process is purified and recycled back into production.
Certified Organic Glycerin @ Draco Natural Products
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I see I apparently wasn't clear... I never meant DW as a base...just as a thinner (dilution)...my apologies. I'm apparently off in my own little world this evening.
Oh...I understood...no problem. I was just pointing out that I did indeed try max DW (for my intended nic level) as an experiment...which turned out to run for only a few minutes.
Sorry, not quoting and just responding to different good folks posts...
Yes, as I stated it's an unprofessional company stating wrong things on both there website(glycerin) and MSDS(glucose)... Crazy...
Yes, lower viscosity is one of the properties, but the main idea I believe is that it comes from a natural product instead of petrolium, which is preferred by some, and possibly can help on some of the PG irritations.
Chapped lips and dried out at both sides of the back tongue is my drying-issues, and I tested it once with both PG and VG, vaping it pure, and gotten it with both, but not all the time in actual blends. However, at the time I tested it, then I used VG and PG from a brand which I now see has a very drying out VG, and now after testing a lot of VGs I see that most actually either doesn't dry out much, or actually gets your mouth wet! At 95/5 vg/water, that is... Too bad the one of the very best tasting VGs is the one that dries out bad! Damn...
Yes, as I stated it's an unprofessional company stating wrong things on both there website(glycerin) and MSDS(glucose)... Crazy...
Yes, lower viscosity is one of the properties, but the main idea I believe is that it comes from a natural product instead of petrolium, which is preferred by some, and possibly can help on some of the PG irritations.
Chapped lips and dried out at both sides of the back tongue is my drying-issues, and I tested it once with both PG and VG, vaping it pure, and gotten it with both, but not all the time in actual blends. However, at the time I tested it, then I used VG and PG from a brand which I now see has a very drying out VG, and now after testing a lot of VGs I see that most actually either doesn't dry out much, or actually gets your mouth wet! At 95/5 vg/water, that is... Too bad the one of the very best tasting VGs is the one that dries out bad! Damn...
Bumping so this doesn't get buried. I would like to see more info about this stuff.
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