Corn Glycerin question.

[disley]

An interesting thread, some posts were much too technical for a layman like myself.
When I see corn syrup being used in a vaping product, it makes me nervous.
When cane sugar is replaced by high fructose corn syrup as the sweetner.
The link between HFCS and the diabetes epidemic is very strong.
How it would affect vapers I have no idea, I just thought I'd get my concerns out there,
so those of you more knowledgeable can assuage my fears.
Studies with rats on a high fructose corn syrup diet show a direct link to diabetes.
So far the powerful farm lobby and processed food industry have stopped it from being banned.

 

[mhertz]

Not corn syrup though

 

[disley]

OK thanks for clearing that up.
I'm must have misunderstood the references to corn syrup,
and assumed it had something to do with it.

 

[lumberjack]

I noticed a new company (Liquid Labs) marketing a 1,3-PDO nicotine base. I'm curious. The site should go live next week and offer free samples.

Get on the list, get hooked up.

 

[mhertz]

Chemnovatic, e.g. from molinshop, have had this also for soon a year, called BioBase...

I don't have any issues just using VG and water(and nic) for my personal base, but i'm intrigued about if the non-petrolium-derived PG substitute also has that ethanolish and bitter-sweet taste that I don't care about and hence not using it...

However, if it lacks that, then I don't think it will work anymore as a "brighten-up'er/enhancer" for flavors and will be like VG with it's un-adulturated and slightly muted flavor carrying properties... It has a low viscosity, even lower than PG, so I believe it will still be forwarding the nic-TH good and not slightly mute it like VG... Hmm, maybe it's the low viscosity that also makes PG better brighten the flavors, but honestly i'm rambling here and need to think about this some more, lol

The main benefit imho, are people which are PG allergic/intolerant and possibly can tolerate this instead(unverified as of now), and for people wanting PG but preferring a more natural derived version...

 

[Alien Traveler]

Chemnovatic, e.g. from molinshop, have had this also for soon a year, called BioBase...

I don't have any issues just using VG and water(and nic) for my personal base, but i'm intrigued about if the non-petrolium-derived PG substitute also has that ethanolish and bitter-sweet taste that I don't care about and hence not using it...

However, if it lacks that, then I don't think it will work anymore as a "brighten-up'er/enhancer" for flavors and will be like VG with it's un-adulturated and slightly muted flavor carrying properties... It has a low viscosity, even lower than PG, so I believe it will still be forwarding the nic-TH good and not slightly mute it like VG... Hmm, maybe it's the low viscosity that also makes PG better brighten the flavors, but honestly i'm rambling here and need to think about this some more, lol

The main benefit imho, are people which are PG allergic/intolerant and possibly can tolerate this instead(unverified as of now), and for people wanting PG but preferring a more natural derived version...

Got interested and googled a bit.
It looks like "corn glycol" is just usual PG but obtained from corn. Otherwise exactly the same thing. Being not a health nut I do not see difference. The main thing - whose method can better remove impurities? Tried to google USP "corn glycol", found nothing (at least on the first page).
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/11/011120051947.htm
H&PC Today articles

 

[mhertz]

Yes, it's PG made from veg-sources instead of petrolium. I don't think there's a monograph for said substance in the USP or Ph.Eur compendias, so pharma-grade isn't a possibility...

Edit: Don't google corn glycol mate, as it's wrong terminology I said that once too in this thread, sorry... The stupid manufacturer from this thread stated corn glycerin on there page and corn glucose, lol, in there MSDS, and then I stated it was wrong and was corn glycol(propylene glycol alternative from corn), but Kurt states it's not even a glycol... Still resembles propylene glycol chemically though...

Propylene glycol from the biggest most poplar manufacturer DOW, which i'm guessing the majority of nicbase makers uses, are 99.93% pure, btw...

VG from a bunch different sources are always 99.5%+ glycerol when USP or Ph.Eur, even though the monographs actually only dictates 99%+(USP - 98%+ for ph.eur), but are usually 99.7% - 99.9%. EDs is 99.84% from last COA posted and nicotine-river's 99.90%(Musim Mas). For EU'ers, lubrisolve is 99.88% and kilo ltd from piratesvape and astor&wi is 99.90%. These mentioned here are some of the highest purities available, or atleast of the ones posting COAs...

I don't really know anything about 1.3-PDO though sorry...