Couple of questions about e-liquid/atomizer

[virm]

Sorry for the late reply,pops came in weak from the dialysis so just now i put him in bed so he can regain some strength,poor guy...always comes in weak as hell from the damn machine.

Ok,so yeah about the proportions,i used these:

The Cellar Base 200ml (Nicotina 6mg) - Vapeototal

Came with big bottle of base and then the 6 tiny nicotine bottles,poured the 6 bottles in the big one then added this:

Phoenix - Vapeototal

Its fast acting,says from 3 to 5 days so sunday it will be 5 days since i mixed it so ill start using it,although i took out just a bit to try it and it seemed good.
Flavour was spot on and that was like 5 minutes after i mixed it,once it settles for the 5 days im guessing it will even taste better.

Odd thou,when i started vaping i didnt seem to have any problems,but now i just crave throat hit,like when it burns a bit on a drip rda,not so much burnt but similar sensation,not sure im explaining myself correctly.

When i inhale im just not feeling it,fresh flavours like the ones im using do help a bit but i still find it lacking.

Thinking about it im not sure it's about the amount of nicotine,i think its more of a ''physical'' kick to the throat when i inhale,that is what i need.

Dang,im sorry to be such a pest with this and bother you guys so much,feel like a dumbass writing about it hehe

cheers

ok, you're good on ratio; that's 15%, so it should be strong enough. shake it too, that'll help the steeping, maybe air it a bit.

don't worry abt the questions, you should see what i put the experts thru every new change i wanted to make. pod to mods then rtas and now squonkers... ppl here love helping.

well, a rda, i'm assuming it's dl, will give you a lot of flavour, there's a lot involved, if it's rdl (restricted direct lung) it'll give a nice sensation, if you're using high wattage you'll get a warm vape, also a sensation, percentage of nic and PG, type of flavour and additives, the airflow setting you're choosing...

mtl, won't be inhaled directly from the lung, you use your mouth to pull like a cigarette [DL is like shisha].. mtl will still be felt in the throat, but it is a diff sensation. maybe you'd like higher PG.. for now, with this liq maybe try going 14watt on zlide...

so maybe consider you're more into DL... myself i like both, every few days i use the zlide or my mtl rta, most of the time i dl.

also btw, liquid might change weaker/stronger as it steeps, my anise and peech get very hard to vape for me after a couple of months, really scratchy, so i add more base to make it softer.

you might also enjoy other coils better_ though to me the 1.6 was the best and gave the best throat hit. i would personally encourage you find a way without raising nic, the only reason for that should be needing nicotine, don't increase your addiction just for the throat hit. in my mtl setup i lowered the nic and got the throat hit by increasing pg sometimes and other times by adding freebase nic instead of salts and adding some irritating flavours like lemon and tobacco. in my dl i lowered the nic to 1.5-2mg and didn;t change much, maybe i'm using a higher wattage, but i;m not sure_ after a while i just got used to it,, a lot of ppl change their habit with practice, for example you'll find a lot of posts here by ppl who vape mtl exclusively and stopped inhaling at all after they get the vapour in their mouth they just blew it out or play with it with tongue and nose, they still get nic thru the mouth and this way their lungs feel better..

btw. do you have a discount code for Vapeototal?

 

[Javichu]

ok, you're good on ratio; that's 15%, so it should be strong enough. shake it too, that'll help the steeping, maybe air it a bit.

don't worry abt the questions, you should see what i put the experts thru every new change i wanted to make. pod to mods then rtas and now squonkers... ppl here love helping.

well, a rda, i'm assuming it's dl, will give you a lot of flavour, there's a lot involved, if it's rdl (restricted direct lung) it'll give a nice sensation, if you're using high wattage you'll get a warm vape, also a sensation, percentage of nic and PG, type of flavour and additives, the airflow setting you're choosing...

mtl, won't be inhaled directly from the lung, you use your mouth to pull like a cigarette [DL is like shisha].. mtl will still be felt in the throat, but it is a diff sensation. maybe you'd like higher PG.. for now, with this liq maybe try going 14watt on zlide...

so maybe consider you're more into DL... myself i like both, every few days i use the zlide or my mtl rta, most of the time i dl.

also btw, liquid might change weaker/stronger as it steeps, my anise and peech get very hard to vape for me after a couple of months, really scratchy, so i add more base to make it softer.

you might also enjoy other coils better_ though to me the 1.6 was the best and gave the best throat hit. i would personally encourage you find a way without raising nic, the only reason for that should be needing nicotine, don't increase your addiction just for the throat hit. in my mtl setup i lowered the nic and got the throat hit by increasing pg sometimes and other times by adding freebase nic instead of salts and adding some irritating flavours like lemon and tobacco. in my dl i lowered the nic to 1.5-2mg and didn;t change much, maybe i'm using a higher wattage, but i;m not sure_ after a while i just got used to it,, a lot of ppl change their habit with practice, for example you'll find a lot of posts here by ppl who vape mtl exclusively and stopped inhaling at all after they get the vapour in their mouth they just blew it out or play with it with tongue and nose, they still get nic thru the mouth and this way their lungs feel better..

btw. do you have a discount code for Vapeototal?

Now that i think of it,im guessing maybe my vaping method isnt right at all.
Ive tried watching alot of videos but for example when it comes to MTL,it seems that after i inhale and keep the vape in my mouth it takes to much ''effort'' to then inhale again to go to my lungs.
I dont know,just doesnt feel right,in other cases instead of creating like a ''suction'' on the tip (by that i mean fully closed around the tip) it seems that sometimes i kinda open the corners of my mouth to breathe in more.
In a video someone mentioned that what i was doing was like a hybrid hit or something like that,think that was the expression they used but not sure.

Anyway the 1.6ohm im using is still good so once it runs out ill check the 0.48 that also come with the atomizer,got this chart that someone posted for me:

Havent gone past 14w with my current 1.6ohm.
But i think you're right,stick with the 6mg/ml nicotine for now and just keep on trying different coils and play with the airflow of the Innokin.

This is only for home use,whenever i go outside switch to my Wasp Nano RTA and using that im good,nice cloud production (50w) and flavour is enjoyable,but for home use the cloud is to much and i vape a lot so that is why i bought the Innokin Zlide,wanted less cloud production.

And no,unfortunately no coupon for vapetotal,first time i ordered from them and i didnt spend much,think it was 44 euros with the delivery costs.
Was satisfied with the service thou,package came with nice and abundant bubble wrap and everything was in pristine condition.

@Mordecai game me some links for new mods (things tight at the moment so that is for a future purchase,couple of weeks maybe) and i fell in love with the Vandy Vape Jackaroo.
Rugged and with a nice grip to it,not wide like the Smoant Battlestar for example,shape doesnt do it for me.

Hopefully ill get some money coming in soon and i can get me a Jackaroo,my poor Swak 80w is on its last legs hehe

 

[Mordacai]

@Cloud-FF7, you sound as though you might like RDL (Restricted Direct to Lung) style vaping more. As it's a higher ohm DTL style with restricted airflow and reduced vapour, somewhere around the 0.6 - 0.7 ohm range.

Anyway, my best wishes to you and your dad.

 

[Mordacai]

Also an idea that I've heard around is using an air purifying fan/filter when vaping and to exhale into it to keep vapour down.

 

[Javichu]

@Cloud-FF7, you sound as though you might like RDL (Restricted Direct to Lung) style vaping more. As it's a higher ohm DTL style with restricted airflow and reduced vapour, somewhere around the 0.6 - 0.7 ohm range.

Anyway, my best wishes to you and your dad.

First of all thanks for the best wishes,same goes to you,family and friends
cheated a bit and started with the e-liquid i got the other day,only been 3 days hehe,but so far so good.
It has a ''fresh'' pineapple type of taste so it does add a bit of a kick,ill just keep at it until i find the right mix for me.

Thanks again for the Jackaroo link,liking it even more after watching some videos,hopefully ill be able to get one soon.

cheers

 

[Mordacai]

My apologies for being an enabler.

And the most important thing is that your liquid works, I've got a commercial one or two that I hate with a passion. But they'll at least keep me going in a pinch.

And we're doing okay, my partner is going a little bit stir crazy. Had to buy some P2P networking gear so that we can keep online without worry.

And as you know already that I've started on making liquid, have a few ideas now.

Cherry blossom or cherry, acai, menthol, koolada and a touch of sweetener is one. Should make a quite palatable vape.

So at least I'm keeping busy, without being busy.

Just need to work out steeping and percentages though, but I do think that total additives should be 20% and ethyl maltol (sweetener) @ 1%. And steeping, at least 14 days.

And when you have a chance @Cloud-FF7, have a look at Chefs Flavours LTD in the UK. They have a massive selection that may be of interest in the future.

 

[Javichu]

My apologies for being an enabler.

And the most important thing is that your liquid works, I've got a commercial one or two that I hate with a passion. But they'll at least keep me going in a pinch.

And we're doing okay, my partner is going a little bit stir crazy. Had to buy some P2P networking gear so that we can keep online without worry.

And as you know already that I've started on making liquid, have a few ideas now.

Cherry blossom or cherry, acai, menthol, koolada and a touch of sweetener is one. Should make a quite palatable vape.

So at least I'm keeping busy, without being busy.

Just need to work out steeping and percentages though, but I do think that total additives should be 20% and ethyl maltol (sweetener) @ 1%. And steeping, at least 14 days.

And when you have a chance @Cloud-FF7, have a look at Chefs Flavours LTD in the UK. They have a massive selection that may be of interest in the future.

Sorry to hear your partner is going stir crazy,in my case im used to it.
Normally i just leave the house to shop for food,pick up meds and go to doctor appointments,my pops usually stays home unless he is having a good day,in those few and select cases i take him to the beach so he can walk a bit on the sand,he loves the ocean.
Rest of the time im at home,in my spare time i just watch tv series and movies,at the moment im at my 4th viewing of the whole TNG series and once im done with that i might start with the 5 seasons of Chuck (my favourite tv series EVER,highly recommend it if you havent watched it,ive watched it more time than i care to admit)

That link you gave me? WOW!!
A lot of cool items to choose from,ill have to take some time and skim thru all the options.

 

[Mordacai]

You're welcome and thank you @Cloud-FF7 .

Chefs flavours is one of those goto places for your concentrates/flavours, unfortunately I don't know of any more local to you. But I do believe that there's a few places in Germany.

But was having a look at chefs flavours yesterday and noticed that they had Chai Tea listed, now that may be interesting for a nice vape. As black tea, cassia, star anise, all spice, ginger and liquorice do sound nice.

I may just have to get some to try.

 

[Javichu]

You're welcome and thank you @Cloud-FF7 .

Chefs flavours is one of those goto places for your concentrates/flavours, unfortunately I don't know of any more local to you. But I do believe that there's a few places in Germany.

But was having a look at chefs flavours yesterday and noticed that they had Chai Tea listed, now that may be interesting for a nice vape. As black tea, cassia, star anise, all spice, ginger and liquorice do sound nice.

I may just have to get some to try.

Each person has a different taste in flavours.
I recently discovered that the sweet based flavours i can only tolerate in small doses,like for example a friend gave me a bottle of ''nightmare before christmas'',it's popcorn flavoured and i still have more than half a bottle.
But on the other hand i enjoy fresh (mentol like) citiric fruity flavours,wish i was doing better ''money wise'' so i could try different flavours but for now ill just have to settle my alchemy.
It's cool thou,it keeps me off the cigarettes so in the end that is all that matters.

 

[Mordacai]

Sweeteners can and are overused in commercial liquids @Cloud-FF7 and I too love fruits, but at least with places like those you can always ask if the concentrates/one shots have sweeteners already added.

Dragonfruit is one of my favourite flavours, only tried it in Frooti Tooti Purple Kush. Has Peppermint and other flavours added and I will work on a clone/copy in the future, but it was much sweeter than it needed to be. I'd say that you could have quite happily used about a quarter of what was added and seriously improved it.

Just wish I could find Gurana flavouring sold at less than 20 gallons, as it's a nice apple/melon kind of flavour.