Crazy dreams anyone?

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Nicotine actually attaches itself to acetylcholine neuro pathways increasing your overall level of wakefullness. Pleasant during the day, but annoying when drifting off to sleep, making your mind more alert when it ordinarily isn't.

lol that could be my problem. since i started vaping i vape more then i ever used to smoke. lots more nicotine in my system and less chemicals. on average while i was smoking i would sleep 8 hours and still be tired all the time. now that i quit smoking and vape alot i am noticing that i sleep on average 4-5 hours a night and have more energy then i have ever had before :rolleyes:
 

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this is going to be your best explanation................sleeping better helps you remember your dreams. The crazy stuff was there all along you just didn't remember it.

That's actually generally the opposite of how it works.

The worse you sleep the better you remember your dreams.

Reason being that if you wake up, even a little, unmemorable bit, during REM sleep, you have better dream recall. If you sleep through your REM cycles, you've got time to forget them.

But now, the first post has me curious. I've been having very vivid, occasionally lucid, dreams and have even gone to see a sleep doctor about it. I don't know why, but I never even though of vaping as the culprit. And yet, the timing is almost perfectly matched.

Hmmmmm....
 
Come on, though..

ZOMBIES?!?!


Seriously...zombies. No smoking or vaping in the dream - just way too vivid a dream. Been having more since the zombies. Im one of those people who has always had really intense dreams and the weird deja vu thing too at least a few times a week. I've just never woken up and thought I was still in the dream or the dream had become real...i dunnno.

Thanks for all the replies though - I really appreciate all the info.

Jeez...gotta love this forum
 

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Seriously...zombies. No smoking or vaping in the dream - just way too vivid a dream. Been having more since the zombies. Im one of those people who has always had really intense dreams and the weird deja vu thing too at least a few times a week. I've just never woken up and thought I was still in the dream or the dream had become real...i dunnno.

Thanks for all the replies though - I really appreciate all the info.

Jeez...gotta love this forum

It's the zombie thing that gets me.
Have you ever seen John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness?
When the people all started having the same dream about the church?
 
It's the zombie thing that gets me.
Have you ever seen John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness?
When the people all started having the same dream about the church?

Totally - the apocalypse is probably going to include zombies...hey! your in denver i keep telling folks we need a zombie plan...they all laugh at me.
 

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lol that could be my problem. since i started vaping i vape more then i ever used to smoke. lots more nicotine in my system and less chemicals. on average while i was smoking i would sleep 8 hours and still be tired all the time. now that i quit smoking and vape alot i am noticing that i sleep on average 4-5 hours a night and have more energy then i have ever had before :rolleyes:


When I was smoking it was like my body CRASHED at around 1-2 AM and I would chain smoke in front of my computer until I HAD to go to bed... NOW, I can go to bed around midnight and wake up around 7 if I want, and I can tell it's a more restorative sleep. Not as hard to wake up anymore either... and that's after a few days...

I DID have a weird dream though. I attribute the sleep stuff to me breathing better already and getting more oxygen. I never remembered dreams before.

My dream: There was this gorilla in a yard next door carrying toddlers around... well, my fiance went to save them and the gorilla beat the crap out of him and I couldn't get past the fence to save him for some reason.

Scary, but even in my dream I knew it was a dream. It was weird.

I might be afraid to remember my dreams! LOL
 

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I'm getting the first REM sleep I've had in years, for the last four months or so....I don't dream of Zombies or those other nightmares you guys talked about, very real almost video-like...but I just visualized that our Government is self'destructing, and we're all going to have to do a lot of digging....I don't remember exactly for what, maybe I can train myself to wake up enough to remember..pockets?? That doesn't make sense, nothing in there...but I could see everyone bending over at the waist with something on our heads...don' know, just strange, couldn't understand the words people were saying...gotta work on it some more I guess...strange clouds, too. Might just be all the vapor, but didn't seem that safe. Somebody keeps saying "Be Quiet!" and "Get out of the Way!" Oh, no, that was the news again, not the dream.
Actually I do think it is part of the withdrawal, cleansing process, and don't forget nicotine is euphoria inducing, so the scary part of dreams are likely the lack of same. And lactic acid from PG could explain the "tenseness" you guys are experiencing, or that could also be just a dream.
ADiff, would you tell us more about the apocalypse, please. I think that may have something to do with my dream as well. Are Zombies tall, with big ears?
 
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I remember one zombie dream when I was still smoking. It was very strange -might make a good movie.
I woke up inside a large stone temple filled with hundreds of people in dark brown robes, all chanting, standing in a semicircle. At the center of the circle, there was nothing. No altar, no person. It was a bit after sunset.
Thunder rumbled and the chanting grew louder. a yellow glow eminated at the center and a huge lightning bolt slammed into it. The chanting stopped and slowly people started to cheer. Where the lightning hit, a man appeared, dressed in red, without a face.
He raised his arms as the cheering got louder.
Suddenly, red lightning flashed from his hands and hit the nearby people, dropping them as if shot by a rifle.
The cheers turned into screams and people started to run.
The ones who I thought were toasted by the red man started getting up. These were the zombies. However, they weren't like the usual zombies you'd see in the movies. Upon being hit by the red lightning, they would go down, then get up, being able to make others like them by firing red lightning from THEIR hands. Thus, the infection would spread.
So, I ran like hell. The red man and his hoarde following slowly behind me.
After running for a while, I happened by a friends house. I told him what was happening and pointed to the firey horizon. He wanted to go towards it to try and save his fiance. I remember telling him, "Everything in that direction is either dead or dying." He ran to the chaos as I was trying to find a way to hide from the oncoming army.
 
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I remember one zombie dream when I was still smoking. It was very strange -might make a good movie.
I woke up inside a large stone temple filled with hundreds of people in dark brown robes, all chanting, standing in a semicircle. At the center of the circle, there was nothing. No altar, no person. It was a bit after sunset.
Thunder rumbled and the chanting grew louder. a yellow glow eminated at the center and a huge lightning bolt slammed into it. The chanting stopped and slowly people started to cheer. Where the lightning hit, a man appeared, dressed in red, without a face.
He raised his arms as the cheering got louder.
Suddenly, red lightning flashed from his hands and hit the nearby people, dropping them as if shot by a rifle.
The cheers turned into screams and people started to run.
The ones who I thought were toasted by the red man started getting up. These were the zombies. However, they weren't like the usual zombies you'd see in the movies. Upon being hit by the red lightning, they would go down, then get up, being able to make others like them by firing red lightning from THEIR hands. Thus, the infection would spread.
So, I ran like hell. The red man and his hoarde following slowly behind me.
After running for a while, I happened by a friends house. I told him what was happening and pointed to the firey horizon. He wanted to go towards it to try and save his fiance. I remember telling him, "Everything in that direction is either dead or dying." He ran to the chaos as I was trying to find a way to hide from the oncoming army.

You should take that and write a book! I think you'd be an excellent author.
 

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You should take that and write a book! I think you'd be an excellent author.

Thank you.
Never learned how to type, though. It'd probably take me about ten years to actually have the time to sit down long enough to write something. Being a single Daddy leaves very little free time.

Besides, if I wrote out all of the weird zombie-type of dreams I've been having, they'd lock me inside a rubber room.8-o
 

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My dream: There was this gorilla in a yard next door carrying toddlers around... well, my fiance went to save them and the gorilla beat the crap out of him and I couldn't get past the fence to save him for some reason.

"Big gorilla at the L.A. zoo
Snatched the glasses right off my face
Took the keys to my BMW
Left me here to take his place.

I wish the ape a lot of success
I'm sorry my apartment's a mess
Most of all, I'm sorry if I made you blue
I'm bettin' the gorilla will too."

~Warren Zevon
 

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this is going to be your best explanation................sleeping better helps you remember your dreams. The crazy stuff was there all along you just didn't remember it.

True true--without exception, any chemical you take regularly takes its toll on REM sleep. It's the cycle you get into after you cycle through the phases of sleep; it's the deepest and most refreshing sleep. Eliminating the mess of chemicals that come in the cigarette package has to increase the quality of sleep (maybe not the quantity but it's tough to have one without the other).

A bit about sleep:
Stage 1 (sometimes called somnambulistic stage) is half in/half out kind of state. Most of us have experienced grabbing the mattress because we think we're falling. In a way, we are. We are "falling" asleep. There's a good reason we call it falling.
We move into Stage 2: eye movement stops and brain waves come in little bursts.
Stage 3 follows, very slow delta waves and bursts of faster waves.
Stage 4 brings only delta waves. Stages 3 & 4 are very deep sleep with no muscle activity or eye movements.
Enter REM--rapid eye movements, fast & shallow breathing, muscles in a temporary state of paralysis. Brain waves accelerate along with all the autonomic processes (heart, BP, temperature along with sexual arousal).

People go through something like 4-5 cycles a night (if they go to bed instead of posting about sleep LOL).

Newborns spend over half their sleep in the REM stage. The older you get, the less time you spend in REM. That is, unless you undergo a major life change (divorce, marriage, moving, smoking cessation hehe). Learning new skills or taking in new circumstances challenges the mind to adjust and this alone will generate more dreams.

I'm not a complete geek, but I spent 6 yrs. studying psychology and sleep study a part of that. I'm enough of a geek to stay current with research and wake/sleep cycles are fascinating. Anyone can remember their dreams if they make a conscious effort to do it. Keep a notebook on your nightstand with a pen, grab it when your eyes pop open. At the very least scrawl out major details so you can fill in later. This catches your mind closest to the sleep state. Once you get up and do your thang, you are much further removed from the dream state so it gets more and more difficult to recall.

A true Geek will figure out the gestalt of their dreams and work through the Jungian archetypes therein hahaha. Ok, I'll quit now, the smartass in me is peeking out. :p
 

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I have been having some crazy messed up dreams for the past two nights and I have been off the analogs for over 3 weeks. First of all, it takes me a little longer to get to sleep. I just can't get comfortable as quickly for some reason. The first dream has been waking me up at about 1:30 am. My mouth has been dry as a bone. Even my throat is dry. It actually hurts like hell. Luckily I keep water next to the bed. The second dream has been interrupted by the alarm clock. All dreams so far have dealt with something negative in my life paired with something f****d up I was on the evening news.

All of these dreams have been vivid with no positive tones to them whatsoever. It can't be withdrawal from the added chemicals in analogs. I should be way over that by now. I'm wondering if it's the introduction of different chemicals to my body. I'll have to take note of what brand of fluid I vape that night before bed. Also, make damn sure not to watch the evening news. I can wait 'til the morning to see how messed up the world still is.

Has anyone heard of a beverage called Drank? I heard about it on the news the other night. It's supposed to be an anti-energy drink that is very relaxing. I red reviews online and decided to buy a case. I won't say where I purchased it. Google it. There a good amount of info/vendors for it. I hope it gets here tomorrow. Maybe that will help settle the dreams.

Seriously though, I don't usually have dreams like that. Especially that vivid.
 
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