I think the point of the ownership question, was to ascertain whether or not a statement of performance is factual. I once thought that Provari was overpriced and not worth it. A friend of mine was kind enough to let me borrow one for 24 hours. That's all it took. I promptly ordered two of my own. The vape IS that much better to me.
Cyborg - ProVari Killer?
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I think the point of the ownership question, was to ascertain whether or not a statement of performance is factual. I once thought that Provari was overpriced and not worth it. A friend of mine was kind enough to let me borrow one for 24 hours. That's all it took. I promptly ordered two of my own. The vape IS that much better to me.
So far, through WAY TOO MANY devices, I have found exactly one thing that performs equal to it. And it was more expensive for me (but I do love it so). Hopefully, in a month or so, there will be a 2nd I can say that about. Again though, more expensive.
It's only MY opinion, but it IS my opinion.
I have all 3 of the mods you mentioned and a lot more. Until you own them all you can't say. Reason: You are sitting down so your voice is muffled.
I'll be stealing that one. THANKS!
I have all 3 of the mods you mentioned and a lot more. Until you own them all you can't say. Reason: You are sitting down so your voice is muffled.
Yep, I'm stealin it too! Lmao!!!
i have tried the provari, itaste mvp and a mech side by side. for me i saw nothing special about the provari, other than the service provape is willing to perform. you or anyone else can twist it any way they want but in the end it comes back to just the service.
if the provari was really the greatest thing since the invention of sliced bread, the provari would have: the ability to become telescopic, would be able to do sub ohm, would have an oled screen, would be able to do variable wattage, you could turn it into a mechanical at the blink of an eye etc. etc.
its all just about the service in the end of any and all provari arguments. any company that would choose to fight provape on their own turf would probably split the market. thats the reason many a provari user have just gone the mech route, because in the end they dont have to pay anyone for any services their pv's might need, you can just do it themselves. thats why there arent any mech vs provari arguments.
Circling back, that Cyborg DOES look quite interesting, and I'll definitively be keeping my eyes on it.
And the fact that the OP felt compelled to compare it to something else will not negatively impact my decision. But I wish people would stop doing that.
If it's something great it will certainly.be able to stand on its own. Comparisons, along with predictions of it becoming a murderer, will not be necessary.
And the fact that the OP felt compelled to compare it to something else will not negatively impact my decision. But I wish people would stop doing that.
If it's something great it will certainly.be able to stand on its own. Comparisons, along with predictions of it becoming a murderer, will not be necessary.
This looks to be a very sweet APV, and I'll be very interested in reading the user reviews once it's release into the wild. As for it being a contender for the championship belt, as some would like to frame it, I guess it is possible. If this is made by a reputable company that provides excellent customer service, and if it's made to the same strict quality and durability specifications, then yes, it will be a contender. Most of this has already been stated by other posts in this thread, and I agree with them.
There is one thing that is generally ignored when comparing the ProVari to the DNA20 mods, and that is battery efficiency. The ProVari circuit is very efficient at what it does, and really the only important feature missing (for some) is VW. I have a ProVari V2 (18650 mode) and a DNA20 MCM mod (also 18650), and I get about 25% to 30% more time on a fully changed AW 18650 in the ProVari. I absolutely love my MCM DNA20 mod for it's beauty and features, but the DNA20 board does appears to have some issues with efficient power usage.
I realize that battery efficiency is not at the top of everybody's requirements for an APV, but for those that care about such things, it's worth noting.
There is one thing that is generally ignored when comparing the ProVari to the DNA20 mods, and that is battery efficiency. The ProVari circuit is very efficient at what it does, and really the only important feature missing (for some) is VW. I have a ProVari V2 (18650 mode) and a DNA20 MCM mod (also 18650), and I get about 25% to 30% more time on a fully changed AW 18650 in the ProVari. I absolutely love my MCM DNA20 mod for it's beauty and features, but the DNA20 board does appears to have some issues with efficient power usage.
I realize that battery efficiency is not at the top of everybody's requirements for an APV, but for those that care about such things, it's worth noting.
I certainly hope the Cyborg is a contender! I like variety, and would love to have something on par or better than the Provari
Sorry, it's not just the service. The service IS the best in the business, but that's just a fringe benefit.
The real reasons aren't apparent to some people as its not important for their satisfaction.
The popularity of mech mods comes down to:
A) Driving a sub-ohm coil to roast the liquid into something they like better.
B) A smooth and consistent vape. A mech mod dumps a flat-line DC charge to the coil, that's makes vapor smooth as silk.
The VV devices struggle with sub-ohm coils because of the current limits in the switches, in order to protect the circuitry.
Where the ProVari outshines them all is the ProVape PWM. ALL of the cheap Chinese mods use a PWM that fires at 33Hz. ProVari's PWM fires at 800Hz. This FACT makes the vapor from a ProVari smoother and more consistent than an current Chinese mod on the market. Personal perception aside, these are cold, hard, FACTS.
Some can tell the difference. Some can't. I certainly can. Therefore, my hats in the ProVari ring until something else can perform equally or better.
That's the point, Rob. DNA20 ises high frequency PWM. I'm not sure if it's exactly 800 Hz, but it's high enough to where people don't notice the nasty hiss of the 33.3
That's awesome, thanks for pointing it out! I'm gonna have to pick up a DNA20 controlled mod and give it a try!
That's the point, Rob. DNA20 ises high frequency PWM. I'm not sure if it's exactly 800 Hz, but it's high enough to where people don't notice the nasty hiss of the 33.3
BuzzPro has a very consistent vape too. I have no idea what it fires at, but it's quite nice. If it had a battery meter and higher mah capability, I'd find them to be pretty much equal. I'm only speaking for myself, of course.
Thanks for the link double_aa_ron. As I understand the way it works it is allowing minimal battery power to the coil when the DNA20 can not reduce the voltage any more. IOW, it can only go so low in voltage and sometimes if the coil resistance is too high it will not be able to go lower to make the watts you set. I hope I got that right. I know, it's totally opposite to what we are used to with typical power restrictions!
Most versatile is also a subjective thing just like 'best'. Like saying a Camry is more versatile than a Ford Mustang. The Camry might win for a family and the Mustang might for someone looking for a sports car. Swap the cars between owners and neither will consider their new car versatile.
Right and when your one hundred blue disposables are gone, the Provari will last years longer...
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