Cyborg - ProVari Killer?

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Well, we already know what the functions are. It's a DNA20 in a nice case. There's quite a few DNA20 mods out and publicly available, and even more home made.

As far as I know they haven't shown a working version of the end cap/button that lets it convert to a mech. So right now we have a DNA20 module which has an evic style threading. So while that is nice, the converting to a mech part, pertaining to a set of tubes they are making, is what makes it truly a must buy for a lot of people.
 

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Reos are tanks, and they're aluminum.

And the Bam and Silver Bullet. There are a lot of mods made out of aluminum that are tough. Stainless steel is nice, but not necessary. I personally like an aluminum mod better than a ss mod a lot of times because its so much lighter.
 

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I think the Vamo is the ProVari killer. It has VV, VW, resistance reader and works great.
I can think of no advantage of the ProVari over the Vamo and I can get 6 Vamos for the same price as 1 ProVari.

Here's a big one, reliability. Your vamo might work well today, but who knows about tomorrow. You might actually go through 6 vamos before a provari dies on you, but then you can still send your provari in for repairs. Theres no one to fix your 6 broken vamos. The vamo is a fantastic device for the cost, but it isn't even in the same league as the provari.
 

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My only beef with the Vamo is its PWM frequency. The rattling of my carto tank annoyed me enough to get rid of it. But that's just my personal taste.

I was not a fan of the pulsing either. That and VW doesn't actually do anything for me. So I sold my zmax and vamo, kept my provari. Also, since none of those devices actually hit their stated power outputs without stacking batteries, which I am not a fan of, they didn't provide me with much reason to keep them.
 

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Thanks for the link double_aa_ron. As I understand the way it works it is allowing minimal battery power to the coil when the DNA20 can not reduce the voltage any more. IOW, it can only go so low in voltage and sometimes if the coil resistance is too high it will not be able to go lower to make the watts you set. I hope I got that right. I know, it's totally opposite to what we are used to with typical power restrictions!

The DNA20 doesn't have a step down converter. What that means is if you have a .8 ohm coil and you try to run it at 15 watts on a battery with 3.7 volts it cant do it. 15 watts with a .8 ohm load is 3.46 volts. The desired voltage output must be the same or greater than the current charge of the battery in order for the DNA20 to be able to regulate.
 

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... Stainless steel is nice, but not necessary. I personally like an aluminum mod better than a ss mod a lot of times because its so much lighter.

That's Funny... Because the weight of a Provari is one of the Things I like most about it.

I like being able to put it down and it doesn't want to Fall Over as much as my LT or Vamo does.
 

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The DNA20 doesn't have a step down converter. What that means is if you have a .8 ohm coil and you try to run it at 15 watts on a battery with 3.7 volts it cant do it. 15 watts with a .8 ohm load is 3.46 volts. The desired voltage output must be the same or greater than the current charge of the battery in order for the DNA20 to be able to regulate.

I'm glad to hear this since I run 1.6o at 4.2v. It should work out perfectly for me (I hope and expect). This is encouraging though, to say the least.
 

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The cyborg looks very interesting. I'm waiting to see what the final product looks like and how it performs. I'm not willing to be a beta tester with the $250+ price tag. As far as Provari killer, if it was CS alone.....then no. CS in a lot of ways is just as important as the mod itself.

I have bought a fluid flask from Fluidvapor and didn't care much for it. They sent it with a messed up tube tank with scratches and chipped edges. Filling it was not as easy as they claimed. They didn't even send a certificate, just a blank sheet of paper. That was for a $75 tank. I can't imagine the kind of QC they will have for this $250+ device. Especially with the hype it's getting right now, chances are they will be trying to keep up with demand. I just hope the quality is better than the fluid flask. Is it innovative? Yes, but we have no idea yet how it will perform or hold up. The Provari has been tried and proven already. What I don't understand are the people knocking the provari because "it's over priced" but this thing is $250+ and untested.
 

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I was not a fan of the pulsing either. That and VW doesn't actually do anything for me. So I sold my zmax and vamo, kept my provari. Also, since none of those devices actually hit their stated power outputs without stacking batteries, which I am not a fan of, they didn't provide me with much reason to keep them.

At the end of the day vv and VW do the same thing...they regulate my vape. What I want is for a device to regulate my vape accurately and reliably and a provari does that. Oh, and while the idea of stacking batteries doesn't bother me, the added length does. It is nice that we can get all the power we need with just one battery.
 

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That's Funny... Because the weight of a Provari is one of the Things I like most about it.

I like being able to put it down and it doesn't want to Fall Over as much as my LT or Vamo does.

I like the weight of the Provari as well, but any heavier and I think it would be too much. I have the curve and that thing is just uncomfortable to hold because of the weight. I would hate to imagine what the Bam and Bombshell would be like if they were made of ss.
 

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At the end of the day vv and VW do the same thing...they regulate my vape. What I want is for a device to regulate my vape accurately and reliably and a provari does that. Oh, and while the idea of stacking batteries doesn't bother me, the added length does. It is nice that we can get all the power we need with just one battery.

You can regulate your vape a few different ways, VW just does the math for you. Stacking batteries doesn't bother me, it just creates one more thing to keep in mind. I like my provari the way it is, I don't bust out over the 13 watts it allows so I don't really need a new version or a provari killer. I have nice mechs as well.

So for me, personally, even if they pull off the DNA20/mech package, I am not sure what role it fills for me. Unless it is just a sexy device, it's not going to be worth $250 for me functionally.
 

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im just saying provari killer needs to beat it in the construction department, did you see how thin the tube looks? if not ss, wont be as strong, reos are tanks cuz they have thick walls, silver bullet, that things a weapon lol. thin alum mods just wont be as strong. titanium? provari would be finally killed lol
 

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You can regulate your vape a few different ways, VW just does the math for you. Stacking batteries doesn't bother me, it just creates one more thing to keep in mind. I like my provari the way it is, I don't bust out over the 13 watts it allows so I don't really need a new version or a provari killer. I have nice mechs as well.

So for me, personally, even if they pull off the DNA20/mech package, I am not sure what role it fills for me. Unless it is just a sexy device, it's not going to be worth $250 for me functionally.

I never do the math with my Provari I just adjust to taist same as I do with a VW device although I can't seem to find my sweet spot with a Vamo or a SVD. Point five increments just isn't enough to fine tune IMO. And I do agree, $250 is too much.
 
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