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I do understand what you're saying. For putting so much time, energy and money into the Darwin, Evolv could do a better job on that side of the business. But there is a written statement of the warranty in the Darwin Instruction Manual. I've attached it, so you can see it for yourself. My first-hand experience with both Evolv and ProVape has been outstanding. When I first got my Darwin, in the first few days, I thought I had a big issue with unit not charging, we later found out it was just a quirky USB charger, but I called Evolv. They were literally ready to overnight me a brand new Darwin that day and then have me mail the old unit back later! Can't beat that! They did overnight the charger though!
I'm not putting The Eclipse down, since I am looking at it as a potential future purchase, but I have done my fair share of early adopting of PV mods and more often than not, it hasn't been trouble-free. Add to that, the pure complexity of this device, and imho it lends itself to some pretty high odds of early issues. I may be completely wrong and hope I am. It's a device I will wait at least 3 months after release to consider at all. I'll let everyone else spend their $300 first this time
Juice entering PV circuitry is an interesting debate. Fluid on wires (connector and surrounding area) is one thing and is fairly harmless other than a eventual buildup of goo! Liquids leaked directly onto or into a PCB while powered up is another. Theoretically that could cause a short circuit on the board and either shut it down or burn it out. It all depends on the board's protection mechanisms and where the liquid lands. Supposedly, Brandon from Evolv leaked an awful lot of juice (think it was around 3ml) directly down the Darwin Dial opening and the unit immediately shut down. But after drying overnight, it was fine with no noticeable effects.
Good post, cuseguy , points well taken......
Evolv demonstrates quick customer service (as all posters with issues have said here) and hopefully any issues inherent to the device that need modification can be accomplished. As with any new product some "tweeking" may be needed..
The 2 year warrantee offers some assurance (for manufacturer defects)
Evolv demonstrates quick customer service (as all posters with issues have said here) and hopefully any issues inherent to the device that need modification can be accomplished. As with any new product some "tweeking" may be needed..
The 2 year warrantee offers some assurance (for manufacturer defects)
I'm not putting The Eclipse down, since I am looking at it as a potential future purchase, but I have done my fair share of early adopting of PV mods and more often than not, it hasn't been trouble-free. Add to that, the pure complexity of this device, and imho it lends itself to some pretty high odds of early issues. I may be completely wrong and hope I am. It's a device I will wait at least 3 months after release to consider at all. I'll let everyone else spend their $300 first this time
Ditto.....Add me to the Wait And See List
I wish them well but have real reservations about that PV. According to what's been posted it is supposed to be released this month but I've not found any Beta information, testing, feedback, etc. Does anyone have links to info by real people using it in the real world?
Brandon knows he needs to spend some time on the PR side of the business, but right now he's making sure units get delivered and customers are happy. From what I've read and heard he's doing a bangup job. What most folks might not know is he had a lab do "Torture Tests" on the production model before it was released. Only after the model passed all the tests did he start production....which gave me a great sense of confidence in the product and the company. I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on future products by Evolv.
wait and see... is always prudent and good advice. it separates the men from the ___'s among us (of which i have been mostly - can't wait to get my hands on something that tickles my projections of what would be / could be, so great!)
of course the warranty is the back up plan for anyone jumping on first run, and good PR is having plans to handle early glitches (replacement units).
Brandon has been A+ on top of any early Darwin issues... couldn't ask for more.
'I am impressed that all (unless i'm mistaken) of the "smart" pv's out now are U.S. made...
so will i jump? ... probably.
of course the warranty is the back up plan for anyone jumping on first run, and good PR is having plans to handle early glitches (replacement units).
Brandon has been A+ on top of any early Darwin issues... couldn't ask for more.
'I am impressed that all (unless i'm mistaken) of the "smart" pv's out now are U.S. made...
so will i jump? ... probably.
wait and see... is always prudent and good advice.....well said.....
Just waiting and researching the PV's but I will jump at some point.....till then I am a happy vaper with the two "cheap" mods that I built recently, one a 5 volt and one a variable voltage. Kinda a hobby right now, so I am building 2 more to give to a couple of vaping friends....Cost of parts is under 14.00 for a 5 volt and just under 32.00 for a variable voltage, so it is fun and won't break the bank either.....
If I were to post a pdf the 5 volt mod would be on the left side..(hehe)
Good day all
Just waiting and researching the PV's but I will jump at some point.....till then I am a happy vaper with the two "cheap" mods that I built recently, one a 5 volt and one a variable voltage. Kinda a hobby right now, so I am building 2 more to give to a couple of vaping friends....Cost of parts is under 14.00 for a 5 volt and just under 32.00 for a variable voltage, so it is fun and won't break the bank either.....
If I were to post a pdf the 5 volt mod would be on the left side..(hehe)
Good day all
Good points, Cuseguy. Any leakage I've had has ended up on the back of the device. It collects in the space between the atty connector and the device and runs toward the back and not down the side and into the dial. In fact I've never had any juice run into the dial, not even when my tank leaked. I use the Darwin with the arm at 45 degree angle most of the time, which may have something to do with it.
(Sorry Cuseguy! I know how much you love your other digital device!)
I priced out another mod with a readout and, with the extended warranty and batteries it actually came out to more than the Darwin. There's a wait for the Darwin but when it's available you pay your money and have it - unless there's a stupid postal holiday - within 2 days. The Eclipse, though not a good comparison since it will be able to feed itself - will be priced around $250, I believe.
Edit to add: As always, buyer beware is a good credo even when information is plentiful. We're responsible for doing our homework and accepting only that level of risk we're comfortable with. I'm quite satisfied with my purchase and would (and will) buy another.
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Thanks to a quick change of o-rings and a couple of quick tutorials (thanks, jonboyusmc) the 510 tank mod is working satisfactorily on the darwin. Zero leaks or seepage, and an all day juice supply I can use with the Darwin.
Oh, yeah. Daddy like.
Taste is a bit muted, like I've encountered with the other ce 2's I've tried. Small price to pay for having a good juicer at hand. It rather compliments the extraordinary battery capacity of the mod. Truthfully, there's been a couple of days this week where I had to spend a fair chunk of the day out on the road where I've chosen to take the Reo Grand and leave the Darwin at home. But after a very short time with this setup, I'm confident to take it anywhere.
And the Darwin's ability to dial in the exact wattage shines with this juicer mod. Different juices and viscosities perform differently in the tank, and the wattage adjustment can be dialed in to the precise amount to ensure good vaping and minimum harshness and singeing of the juice. 7 watts seems to be the best setting so far.
And while I respect opinions that differ from mine, I can only report on what I experience. Any leaks or seepages from my atty or carto seemed to go right to the exposed dial and button area. I can't say that this seemed to alter or diminish the use for functionality of the Darwin, but they did cause me a bit of concern.
Again, loving-loving-loving the Darwin with this setup. Never ending vape that could almost be described as magical. Nicotine overdose and poisoning is a serious possibility with this sucker.
Oh, yeah. Daddy like.
Taste is a bit muted, like I've encountered with the other ce 2's I've tried. Small price to pay for having a good juicer at hand. It rather compliments the extraordinary battery capacity of the mod. Truthfully, there's been a couple of days this week where I had to spend a fair chunk of the day out on the road where I've chosen to take the Reo Grand and leave the Darwin at home. But after a very short time with this setup, I'm confident to take it anywhere.
And the Darwin's ability to dial in the exact wattage shines with this juicer mod. Different juices and viscosities perform differently in the tank, and the wattage adjustment can be dialed in to the precise amount to ensure good vaping and minimum harshness and singeing of the juice. 7 watts seems to be the best setting so far.
And while I respect opinions that differ from mine, I can only report on what I experience. Any leaks or seepages from my atty or carto seemed to go right to the exposed dial and button area. I can't say that this seemed to alter or diminish the use for functionality of the Darwin, but they did cause me a bit of concern.
Again, loving-loving-loving the Darwin with this setup. Never ending vape that could almost be described as magical. Nicotine overdose and poisoning is a serious possibility with this sucker.
Everything high voltage seems better on the darwin. Had a bunch of hv atties that seemed mild on a 6volt device.
But on the darwin they seems to out perform any std ohm or lr atty, just brilliant!
But on the darwin they seems to out perform any std ohm or lr atty, just brilliant!
wait and see... is always prudent and good advice.....well said.....
Just waiting and researching the PV's but I will jump at some point.....till then I am a happy vaper with the two "cheap" mods that I built recently, one a 5 volt and one a variable voltage. Kinda a hobby right now, so I am building 2 more to give to a couple of vaping friends....Cost of parts is under 14.00 for a 5 volt and just under 32.00 for a variable voltage, so it is fun and won't break the bank either.....
If I were to post a pdf the 5 volt mod would be on the left side..(hehe)
Good day all
Nice job ..................
Thanks, added Variable Voltage to this recently completed one... don't really like the looks of the fire button, and will change it on the next one... also adding digital voltage display to the next one...
If it's alright with clyde, please post your next one. Looks good.
Will post my next one in the other thread......just modding while evaluating the Darwin vs. eclipse eq (if it every comes out)...ready to jump but not yet (haha)....sorry Clyde for taking so much space.....
Trying out my new Inferno-T atty on my Darwin. Yummy stuff so far!
Nice!!! Is this a custom finish on the Darwin? I could not see an option for blue.
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