Day 2 - What am I doing wrong?

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CrowDog

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SOS Update

Thank You to all of you who were online Sunday and responded to my call for help when I was alone and had a serious reaction to my first vaping experience. This is to let you know that I am still here and slowly recovering on my own, albeit a bit worse for wear.

Apparently, my reaction to the PG is similar to the propellant (dehydrated ethanol) used as a
CFC replacement in the inhalers used for COPD and asthmatics. That nearly killed me, too.

I have enphysemia, hypoglycemia, chronic back pain, periphial neuropathy, a bad heart, post traumatic stress, and many allergies.
Call 9-11? (Oops, I meant 9+1+1)
It simply is not an option for me.

For your sake, I won't go into detail; my story is negative and not one that you'd want to encourage on your forum to recruit new members. It would involve a much larger picture than your campaign to promote the FREEDOM to use the e-cig. Even if I am allergic and can't use it, I was happy to find there is a hopeful alternative to smoking for others. However, maybe someone ought to consider some sort of emergency chat-help-line support for those that may have reactions?

One of you rather rudely asked why I was online instead of calling for "professional" help. You really don't even need to understand my situation to see how cold that was. Perhaps you could make such an immediate judgement if you was able to step out of your personal self-induced fog long enough to walk a mile in my shoes before making such an insensitive statement? That alone, was enough to make me wonder if there are other side effects using the e-cig as such delusions of grandeur and uncivilized behaviour!

I really thought I finally found a support community for my smoking addiction. Evidently, because I was not successful, I do not belong here. But Thanks and best wishes to all, anyway; and try to remember:

ASSUME NOTHING
QUESTION REALITY

CrowDog
 

kristin

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I ordered a Joye 510 and a 2-piece ecigarette. They both arrived Friday. The first day they arrived, I tried them both out to see which I preferred. I am currently a heavy smoker ... 2 pks a day ... at times in my life, more than that. I really want this to work.

First day, I was excited and testing out both models. I began to feel ill and went to bed. Had chills half the night and felt much like I had the flu. Next morning, felt a bit better. Definitely not the flu? Too much testing? I don't know.

Day two, moderated my use. No more chills and headache, but I can't seem to take a draw without choking and coughing. I don't cough when I smoke. So how exactly do you get around this? Do you inhale the vapor into your lungs or just keep it in your mouth and then exhale? Also dealing with slight nausea.

Any input is welcome.
You probably got nicotine overdose from how you're inhaling. What level of nicotine are you using?

Remember to draw in slowly. If you suck in too hard, you don't give the atomizer enough time to vaporize the liquid. Were your lips tingling, as well? That's from getting liquid on them. I once got up and started vaping & drinking coffee. i was so engrossed in my work, I never ate anything. I started to get woozy, nauseous and lightheaded - not pleasant. Once I ate and stopped vaping for a while, it got better. Because I didn't have to get up and go outside to smoke, I vaped a lot more than I used to smoke. So, if that is the case for you, maybe reduce the nicotine content if you're vaping more than you smoked.

Try drawing the vapor into your mouth before inhaling it, rather than a direct draw into your lungs.

Also, there is a link below to an overall guide/tips about using a 510. Hope that helps!
 

CrowDog

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Oh, No, Kasey! You mean me confuse you? I did not intend that.
My problem with the e-cig has to do with my poor health, not with your response. You could not know my situation, but you quickly responded in a caring way, which helped.
I cannot get proper medical care for my condition, BECAUSE I SMOKE! I have suffered multiple traumas at the hands of so-called professionals.
A lot of big-time politics at work. Hopefully, you're safe; if you are not classified as an "unknown ethnic".
 

Birdy

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I had some pretty funky stuff happen my first few days too. In my case it was several things- I got over enthusiastic trying all my new stuff and definitely took in too much nicotine. I hadn't done the math to figure out how much nicotine I'd been getting in analogs to begin with, so I went overboard. I also now know that I have a slight sensitivity to PG.

But you know what I think part of it was? I think the primer in the 510 attys was making me kinda ill. Once the primer went away I felt fine.
I know that sounds weird and unlikely but when my first attys finally died and I started breaking in some new ones I suddenly had some of the same symptoms: foggy headedness, nausea, coughing, etc. Now I wash the hell out of my attys first and it doesn't happen anymore.
 

martha1014

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I'm sorry you had suffered from trying the ecig. This is a place for anybody. By letting us know what kind of reaction you had will help all of us.

Don't give up. Maybe in a few days you can try again. It sounded to me like too much nicotine. I has suffered severely from overdoing it on the nicotine. Hopefully it wasn't a reaction to PG.If you think it was try switching to VG.

Hope it works out for you.
 

Brewster 59

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SOS Update

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Apparently, my reaction to the PG is similar to the propellant (dehydrated ethanol) used as a
CFC replacement in the inhalers used for COPD and asthmatics. That nearly killed me, too.

happy to find there is a hopeful alternative to smoking for others. However, maybe someone ought to consider some sort of emergency chat-help-line support for those that may have reactions?

One of you rather rudely asked why I was online instead of calling for "professional" help. You really don't even need to understand my situation to see how cold that was. Perhaps you could make such an immediate judgement if you was able to step out of your personal self-induced fog long enough to walk a mile in my shoes before making such an insensitive statement? That alone, was enough to make me wonder if there are other side effects using the e-cig as such delusions of grandeur and uncivilized behaviour!

I really thought I finally found a support community for my smoking addiction. Evidently, because I was not successful, I do not belong here. But Thanks and best wishes to all, anyway; and try to remember:

ASSUME NOTHING
QUESTION REALITY

CrowDog

I agree with the assume nothing part, I really dont think the poster was being rude to you at all. By stating to get professional help I think they meant a doctor. However if you really were as sick as you were stating and typing on line maybe you do need a shrink. Emergency chat line? if you have a medical emergency the chat line to call would be 911 not an ecig forum!
 

CrowDog

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Martha?
Were you speaking to me? Now I'm confused.
In case you haven't noticed, I am electonically challenged; not just with e-cigs, but especially with computers.

Your comment was much more kind and encouraging, thank you very much.

I am so sorry for having jumped into someone's else's thread during my emergency, and then didn't want to leave everyone hanging in the air after doing so, either. I also don't want to negate e-cigs; but admit I am quite touchy about being judged about my situation.

You're right; I shouldn't give up, if not smoking, then try sticking to the forum. There may be someone to benefit from my experience. I am sure it was a reaction to the PG and not the amount of nicotine. I have had similar terrible effects with a prescription inhaler for my emphysema, to the point of heart attacks and blackouts.

After some rest and recuperation, I can give it another try. Could someone give me a clue how to properly blog? My machine is a totally uncooperative Vista.
 

Posideon

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CrowDog if your reaction was that intense and bad... even if it COULD be the PG seems like you know it is. You shouldn't vape that anymore. Get some VG and try that if you're willing. Hope you recover well. VG does have some drawbacks (less taste) but more vapor is it's advantage. Plus if you're allergic to PG it's pretty much your only choice. Good luck!
 

CrowDog

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Thanks Posideon,
Yea, ordered some with starter kit; just never made it that far. Wasn't that concerned with amount of vapor, nor even the taste. Just have tried everything to quit smoking for my health, and cannot do it. I had never heard of e-cigs, and took the gamble. I lost. Have to think it over a lot, if I'll try the glycerin. I have the same problem with (FDA approved) food additives. The next MSG encounter might be the one to do me in.
Surely, there are others that are so sensitive, and could use some help from those that have been there, done that.

The comments and attitudes from Sherid and Brewster 59 are unacceptable. If you choose to question my sanity, that is your right. However, just to qualify as a decent human being, you should keep it to yourself and not spend your precious time by kicking a dying dog.
I have been victimized a lifetime by people like you, and can't afford the type of damage your kind delivers.
I also won't lower myself to play your arrogant mouth game.
 

Brewster 59

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Thanks Posideon,

The comments and attitudes from Sherid and Brewster 59 are unacceptable. If you choose to question my sanity, that is your right. However, just to qualify as a decent human being, you should keep it to yourself and not spend your precious time by kicking a dying dog.
I have been victimized a lifetime by people like you, and can't afford the type of damage your kind delivers.
I also won't lower myself to play your arrogant mouth game.

Actually I really meant you no disrespect, however I do have to say that anyone that has an allegeric reaction that makes it so they can't breathe and sweating profusely should see a doctor especially if an asthma inhaler almost killed them. You might want to try snus as it is not inhaled and a lot of nic addicts seem to love it. After the reaction you suffered I would think twice before using anything that inhales nic. Glad your ok though.
 
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