Did I find 75mg liquid?

[DVap]

On the posts mentioning that I can't discern purity (whether it's got bad stuff in there), this is true, I can't. I don't run the kind of mass specs that are most suited for that kind of testing anymore. The mass specs I do run are monstrous high resolution units that are specialized for insanely low level work, and are operated in a mode incompatible with "finding out everything in there".

But I can nail down the potency (how much nicotine) quite well. I've got my entire setup for potency at home (heck, it's all within arm's reach of where I sit).

 

[DVap]

BTW... I think the guy behind BlipLabs likely knows precisely who his customer base is and what's happening to the nicotine he sells.

Just my opinion, which could be wrong.

 

[KonaNeil]

Welcome to our future. This is how its going to be next year. Get used to putting a Dr. before your name when you place an order;-)

Wicked, the only canny marketer in this little industry, will open a lab supply completely detached from the main company.

Our fav US suppliers will sell PVs and flavorings and whatever other accessories they can find while lab and medical suppliers will service us on the touchy stuff.

Its really too bad:-(

 

[jerrydon10]

Dvap, all I wanted was a way to test (Quantitatively) the juice of what I play with. You provided that; and simply so.

Job well done, my friend. Thanks......

 

[1inchgroup]

So is everyone still alive?

 

[Scubabatdan]

So is everyone still alive?

Ordered 75mg and still kicking!
Dan

 

[Scottes]

2/3 through the first bottle of 75mg, and still alive.

 

[KonaNeil]

Dan, Scottes,

Do you mean the lab juice from our new friend in Texas? If so, how well do you like it?

I'm planning to either try his or the new high end 56mg juice from TW for cutting with quite a bit of flavor, PG and VG. If anyone has a bead on if one is better in any way, I'd really like to know.

 

[Scubabatdan]

Dan, Scottes,

Do you mean the lab juice from our new friend in Texas? If so, how well do you like it?

I'm planning to either try his or the new high end 56mg juice from TW for cutting with quite a bit of flavor, PG and VG. If anyone has a bead on if one is better in any way, I'd really like to know.

Yes the Blip lab stuff, I live in Alabama, and have not ordered any of the TW product so I can not comment on them. I have compared this to the stuff I get from China and the Blip lab stuff is much cleaner, and when cut to 36mg it packs a heck of a throat hit. Since it is in Texas, the shipping is faster and lower. So I will be using it for my personal vaping stock.
Dan

 

[01gixer]

i found 99% pure!!!!!!

 

[Scottes]

I like the Blip just fine.

I just got the Platinum Ice last night, and won't be able to do a comparison until this weekend. The Blip is a bit cheaper - and easier to get, considering TW's stock issues with the PI.

 

[Tecratk]

It's nicotine and PG. That's exactly what we're vaping.. I'm not sure why some people are suggesting that this stuff isn't safe. If you vape, then that's what you're putting into your lungs..

I don't think you guys questioning this stuff realize just how unsafe the liquid from China is. We're all gambling with our lives every time we squirt that crap into our carts.

It sounds like people are more comfortable purchasing from Blip because they know exactly what's in it, which is how it should be.

Vaping and ecigs are still relatively new and unheard of, so of course this college isn't going to put in their disclaimer that it's ok to vape... They put warnings on there to prevent them from liability if somebody drinks the bottle. I don't think anybody here is planning to do that..

Another thing regarding the impure chinese liquid... that is exactly why we have the FDA, to test and regulate things. It kind of boggles my mind that everybody is so anti-FDA and yet are willing to wait and see if somebody else tries it without getting sick to give them the OK to try it themselves.

 

[ramblingrose]

has anyone considered the possibility (and call me paranoid here) that the FDA or similar entity is behind this in order to "prove" that this "vaping thing" is "unsafe" because users will purchase what it perceives as dangerously high levels of nicotine when given the opportunity?

I could be way off base here, but it's worth a ponder considering the "company" is so "shadowy" in every respect, don't you think?

I don't think the FDA is behind it, but I agree with your concept. One accident is all it will take... one OD, or one child or pet hurt, and the publicity will be a nightmare.

 

[KonaNeil]

i found 99% pure!!!!!!

Do you mean you did an analysis of it? If so, what was the 1% composed of?

I like the Blip just fine.

I just got the Platinum Ice last night, and won't be able to do a comparison until this weekend. The Blip is a bit cheaper - and easier to get, considering TW's stock issues with the PI.

I hope you'll keep us posted. My guess is that I'm one of many who are moving away from Chinese liquids and are in hoarding mode*. While I'm fine with the Brits, I'd rather buy domestic if the quality is at least as good.

*The joke around the house is that my Mormon relatives would approve of my planning.

 

[Kavik79]

I don't really understand the point of this. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong?

But say I buy 15ml of 75mg juice for $30 from Blip
Then I buy 30ml of 60mg juice for $35 from supplyer X


What I buy from supplyer X is 80% the strength of the Blip Stuff,but the Blip stuff costs 171% more than Supplyer X by volume. So, no matter what amount you cut it down to, aren't you spending way more on the 75% mix anyway?

I just don't get why people are obsessed with getting the highest strength they can find, even if it ends up costing more?

 

[Scottes]

I just don't get why people are obsessed with getting the highest strength they can find, even if it ends up costing more?

One of my mixes uses 60% flavoring, and 10% VG. With 75mg nic-juice, that gets me 22mg final product. Just barely enough, and not always enough, since I like 10 or 15 minutes of 36mg in the morning.


From an analysis I did against a dozen different nic-juices, it seems that using the highest mg nic-juice possible costs more. Instead, use the lowest mg nic-juice that gets you what you need as a final product.

If you make 24mg final product, using Blip's 38mg costs $15.41 for 30ml of final product, while using their 75mg costs $20.76 for a 30ml bottle.



The above chart assumes 20% LorAnn flavoring, and the rest is PG. More explanation in this post:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ney-why-everyone-should-diy-3.html#post637382

 

[vapn]

I was wondering how this all worked out.. Thanks for doing this comparison...

I can vouch for the TW PI juice.. Very clean tasting.. I can mix up some really strong stuff too and it seems like it absorbs into my system better than regular e-liquid. Hard to explain but I get an almost buzz if I vape it too strong. The most I like to do is 20 mg. Anything more than that and I get a funny feeling. Not a good one either... lol..

I know I spent more for it but what ever works. And the taste is better IMHO. No taste actually.

O and I got some of the new DV from TW in the Parma Violet flavor. That is a taste that had to grow on me but I really like it now. It is real strong so I use it for those times when I need a little kick. Very nice vape for sure. They use the PI to mix it. I have been vaping that exclusively for few days now alternating between the PI that I mix and the parma violet stuff. Now when I try some RY4 or something I bought it tastes kinda strange. Even the flavorless juice I have smells like tobacco. I don't remember it smelling like that a few days ago. hmmm.. wondering if I might have found my new vape. More expensive and hard to get.. that is not good.

So I am wondering if this Blip stuff compares. I will check back to see comments from the other poster that got it.

 

[Kewtsquirrel]

One of my mixes uses 60% flavoring, and 10% VG. With 75mg nic-juice, that gets me 22mg final product. Just barely enough, and not always enough, since I like 10 or 15 minutes of 36mg in the morning.


From an analysis I did against a dozen different nic-juices, it seems that using the highest mg nic-juice possible costs more. Instead, use the lowest mg nic-juice that gets you what you need as a final product.

If you make 24mg final product, using Blip's 38mg costs $15.41 for 30ml of final product, while using their 75mg costs $20.76 for a 30ml bottle.



The above chart assumes 20% LorAnn flavoring, and the rest is PG. More explanation in this post:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ney-why-everyone-should-diy-3.html#post637382

Damn Scottes, thats an awesome chart, I knew I was saving money, but didn't know exactly how much. The one thing I would highlight though is what was mentioned above - we have no idea whats in Chinese e-juice, and while the bulk stuff may be cheaper, the purity is of unknown origin. As far as I know, blip labs and TW are the only places selling a pure pg+nic solution, and only blip is US based. Blip is also the only place I've seen that sells properly labeled stuff - all of this talk of possible ODing or kids getting hurt imho is a lot more applicable to a bottle that says "cherry" and nothing else - or worse yet a bottle thats completely unlabeled.

As for the general experience, I've been experimenting more with mixtures, and I'm convinced now that 25-40% glycerin is the way to go - better throat hit, more vapor than going pure PG. Pure PG is still the way to go for stealth vaping though, the cloud dissipates almost the instant it leaves my mouth.

 

[Kavik79]

yeah, that was my point....and put much more scientifically LOL
why risk playing with higher concentrate when it's more expensive anyway? I think I'll pass and use the less concentrated stuff

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

So I am wondering if this Blip stuff compares. I will check back to see comments from the other poster that got it.[/quote]
I have both and yes, the Blip liquid seems to be all the TW is. Still, I'm taking a hard look at that chart, that's interesting.