The big question is...Is there really anyway to know that your actually getting 75mg/ml liquid? As far as i know there's really no simple test to measure Nic strength right? Your NOT going to vape this straight right Nerf? 75mg/ml at 10% is still almost 8 cigarettes per ml...kind of alot of nic to suck down
Did I find 75mg liquid?
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Well, I figure it can't be any worse than taking 2 monster puffs of 36mg/ml, and you only live once right? I jumped out of a damned airplane the weekend before last, this can't be *that* much more dangerous! 
I figure I'll cut it with some of the 0mg juice i've got around and ramp up to see how it is, I'm thinking 25% of the 75mg/ml to start, and go from there to full strength in 30 minute or so intervals if I haven't died or **** myself.
I figure I'll cut it with some of the 0mg juice i've got around and ramp up to see how it is, I'm thinking 25% of the 75mg/ml to start, and go from there to full strength in 30 minute or so intervals if I haven't died or **** myself.
O I think you would know if you puffed on 75Mg lol.
I want to see what 60-65 would be like.
I want to see what 60-65 would be like.
You uys are crazy, U DO NOT WANT TO USE A 75 mg. juice.
You can overdose form nicotine. Im pretty sure, its right around 90mg. too.
There is a reason, the 36mg. juice was put to a halt in china. They didnt want to make it, because it poses too much risk, and is not safe.
U must remember, somewhere around 10 drops is 1 ml.
Most of my bottles are 30ml. bottles. 24mg. strength. For each ml. in the bottle, there is 24mg of nicotine.
THis is coming from the supplier. Dekang. Biggest ejuice maker in china. They invented the stuff. Trust them. Not someone that is trying to make u get sick, or od.
Why would u want to try something that strong anyway, thats absolutely ridiculous.
With all the scrunity we face, dont u think people overdosing on nicotine and dieng will only pose more problems for regulation???? DUH!
Most people, get dizzy off of smoking the 24mg. and thats only off a few drops.
I know where your at, I like it really strong too. BUt, with 24mg. juice, if you smoke 1-2ml. a day, your already over the intake of 2 packs of analogs. Focus on the flavor, not adding more nicotine, its not needed. And it doesnt make the throat hit that much better anyway.
You can overdose form nicotine. Im pretty sure, its right around 90mg. too.
There is a reason, the 36mg. juice was put to a halt in china. They didnt want to make it, because it poses too much risk, and is not safe.
U must remember, somewhere around 10 drops is 1 ml.
Most of my bottles are 30ml. bottles. 24mg. strength. For each ml. in the bottle, there is 24mg of nicotine.
THis is coming from the supplier. Dekang. Biggest ejuice maker in china. They invented the stuff. Trust them. Not someone that is trying to make u get sick, or od.
Why would u want to try something that strong anyway, thats absolutely ridiculous.
With all the scrunity we face, dont u think people overdosing on nicotine and dieng will only pose more problems for regulation???? DUH!
Most people, get dizzy off of smoking the 24mg. and thats only off a few drops.
I know where your at, I like it really strong too. BUt, with 24mg. juice, if you smoke 1-2ml. a day, your already over the intake of 2 packs of analogs. Focus on the flavor, not adding more nicotine, its not needed. And it doesnt make the throat hit that much better anyway.
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Its actually pretty pricey. You can get the same amount from east mall at 0.45 per ml while these guys are charging 1.33 per ml. Even doubling the amount from east mall to make it equivalent nic is still only 0.90 per ml. These guys are charging a steep 50% premium over east mall.
This thread has motivated me to start working on getting to 0 nic juice. Less hassle and, if in the event of a ban, easy to make myself.
Does East Mall offer 75Mg?
Is East Mall in the US? Isn't E-Liquid blocked at customs? You run the risk every time you import into the US. I know that your not in the US, but face the same problems with customs.
At 75Mg you can make just about whatever you want with it IMO.
This could also be Pharmaceutical grade(could be) just like what TW is about to offer with their 54Mg. Yet, they are cutting it down to 54Mg, because their was a snap shot of their E-Liquid at 75Mg.
I wonder how much it is to even have a bottle spun down, and tested to see what was in it.
Vaporich...Read back through the Forum there is TONS of info on how much Nicotine is Actually Absorbed through Vaping Vs Smoking...24mg/ml is only equal to about 2 1/2 cigarettes per ml...Scientific studies have been performed...only about 10% of the Nicotine is absorbed through vaping...I wouldn't Vape 75mg/ml simply because 24 all i needed to stop smoking but i only smoked a half a pack a day before switching to Vaping...many many others on here smoked much more...Many are having trouble switching completely or are unable to put there PV down because they can't get the Nic levels they need...1ml of 75mg/ml juice is equal to 3ml of 25mg/ml juice...And that STILL only equals about 7 1/2 cigarettes!
Its just as safe for him to Vape a ml of 75mg juice as it is to Smoke 7 1/2 cigarettes
Its just as safe for him to Vape a ml of 75mg juice as it is to Smoke 7 1/2 cigarettes
i can puff on 48mg juice all day and not get light headed so i would try it, just not from this company...they seem shady...anyways im only using 36mg or 48mg at work since i cant chain vape and i use 24 at home or at the bar since i can chain vape until i hyperventilate...im actually starting to care more about flavor more than anything, is this weird?
also on a side note, are the TW juices that good to where people are willing to pay $1 per ml? you can get double that with double the flavor elsewhere for $7 more
also on a side note, are the TW juices that good to where people are willing to pay $1 per ml? you can get double that with double the flavor elsewhere for $7 more
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Id like to see the studies.
Because if your really right that 1 ml. is only 2 cigarettes, than I should tell the suppliers. Suppliers state that in one 1ml. of juice, it is almost equivalent to smoking a full pack of cigarettes, if not equivalent. Are you saying tests have been done to prove the levels you are stating. If there are really studies, tests,etc. proving 1 ml. is equivalent ot only 2 cigarettes, Id like to check it out. Do you have a link, so I can see these studies? I always trust the people that invent(make the stuff)
Id like to see the studies.
Because if your really right that 1 ml. is only 2 cigarettes, than I should tell the suppliers. Suppliers state that in one 1ml. of juice, it is almost equivalent to smoking a full pack of cigarettes, if not equivalent. Are you saying tests have been done to prove the levels you are stating. If there are really studies, tests,etc. proving 1 ml. is equivalent ot only 2 cigarettes, Id like to check it out. Do you have a link, so I can see these studies? I always trust the people that invent(make the stuff)
IDK if anyone noticed but you have to click on the one you want. It's 80USB for 30Ml of 75Mg.
If you have a link to a study on this that would be great!
IMHO, I think that the switch over to vaping completely is hard for some because they are addicted to other things in their cigarettes. They *think* it is the nicotine because that's what they have been *told* they are addicted to.
Just like if you have ever switched your brand of cigarettes before in hopes to "cut down". The first few weeks you are missing something, it doesn't taste right and you end up smoking more and then, the next thing you know, they taste good and you smoke more on your new brand then you did on your old brand.
Also... IMHO this "all or nothing" philosophy that I see around the forum is kind of upsetting. We have to remember that those who do not switch completely should be encouraged to look at what they are NOT using in tobacco and leave it at that. The ecig is not a quit smoking device... if it were, I would have thought it would have worked for me. 15 years with 20 smokes a day, 6 months with 5 smokes... 4 months with 0 smokes and now... back to 5 smokes. Am I a failure? No. Because I understand that my ecig is simply an alternative to tobacco. Just as soda is an alternative to water. All in moderation right?
PS. I by no means meant this rant directed at you Ride. I would like a study link
but the rest is all just observation I have noticed lately with the "quit or die" philosophy that has sprung up around the ecig community.
The Amount of Nicotine IN THE JUICE...is equivalant to a Pack of Cigarettes NOT NOT The amount absorbed by the body!!
If you have a link to a study on this that would be great!
IMHO, I think that the switch over to vaping completely is hard for some because they are addicted to other things in their cigarettes. They *think* it is the nicotine because that's what they have been *told* they are addicted to.
Just like if you have ever switched your brand of cigarettes before in hopes to "cut down". The first few weeks you are missing something, it doesn't taste right and you end up smoking more and then, the next thing you know, they taste good and you smoke more on your new brand then you did on your old brand.
Also... IMHO this "all or nothing" philosophy that I see around the forum is kind of upsetting. We have to remember that those who do not switch completely should be encouraged to look at what they are NOT using in tobacco and leave it at that. The ecig is not a quit smoking device... if it were, I would have thought it would have worked for me. 15 years with 20 smokes a day, 6 months with 5 smokes... 4 months with 0 smokes and now... back to 5 smokes. Am I a failure? No. Because I understand that my ecig is simply an alternative to tobacco. Just as soda is an alternative to water. All in moderation right?
PS. I by no means meant this rant directed at you Ride. I would like a study link
There are Many MANY thread on this here...Here is the first one that came up...a few links within that thread
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...5034-nicotine-absorbtion-vaping-research.html
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Thanks... I will go back through and re-read this thread again and see if I missed any further studies noted there. Long thread.
From the 2009 handout given at the Society and Nicotine Research Conference from Health NewZealand:
"Nicotine delivery per puff A 35 mL puff from the
Ruyan® V8 delivers only 10% of the nicotine
obtained from a similar puff of a Marlboro regular
cigarette. Deeper 50 mL puffs from the Ruyan V8
delivers only slightly more nicotine."
"An e-cigarette user will
need to take more puffs more often, and deeper
puffs confer no advantage for V8 users. Six puffs
every 5 minutes would deliver the same dose of
nicotine delivered by shallow inhaling (10 puffs of
35 mL per puff) from one tobacco cigarette every
hour, but would not achieve the high immediate
nicotine boost which many smokers crave.
Nicotine overdose is unlikely, even though
nicotine delivery may vary between brands."
Thanks... I will go back through and re-read this thread again and see if I missed any further studies noted there. Long thread.
From the 2009 handout given at the Society and Nicotine Research Conference from Health NewZealand:
"Nicotine delivery per puff A 35 mL puff from the
Ruyan® V8 delivers only 10% of the nicotine
obtained from a similar puff of a Marlboro regular
cigarette. Deeper 50 mL puffs from the Ruyan V8
delivers only slightly more nicotine."
"An e-cigarette user will
need to take more puffs more often, and deeper
puffs confer no advantage for V8 users. Six puffs
every 5 minutes would deliver the same dose of
nicotine delivered by shallow inhaling (10 puffs of
35 mL per puff) from one tobacco cigarette every
hour, but would not achieve the high immediate
nicotine boost which many smokers crave.
Nicotine overdose is unlikely, even though
nicotine delivery may vary between brands."
That incomplete blurb posed far more questions than it answered as it is direct contradiction to another Ruyan study. The real answer at this point is that there are no lab reports (let alone peer reviewed and published) available on nicotine absorption via ecigarette. After all this time I have no idea why this continues to be the case. The manufacturers continue to let us down.
How about this thread?? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nicotine/30623-blood-test-lab-results-nicotine-levels.html He vaped 80-90mg's a day and chain vaped before the exam...
There are DOZENS of threads just like this...i shouldn't have to do your research...If you don't believe the facts then research it yourself...the 10% isn't always Exactly the case...But it is proven in Everyone one that what you are absorbing from vaping is EXTREMELY LESS then what the bottle says
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I've seen the anecdotal data supporting both sides (including this one). Unfortunately, a single guy going to his doctor does very little in the way of aiding the cause for or against. Here are a few questions off the top of my head..
What model did he use and was it indicative of the average for that model? What juice was used and was the juice tested to confirm the nicotine levels? Are the results repeatable across different brands, using different inhalation techniques with juice from different suppliers? What was added to the juice? What was the PH level of the juice used? Were the user statements reliable? Is there any documentation available for the results?
Without trying to be difficult, in less than a year I have seen questionable lab reports (New Zealand study) and user reports that cover the entire spectrum. The only way we are going to know is a controlled lab study submitted for peer review. Anything less is bound to be nothing more than an orgy of confirmation bias.
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