Diketones will destroy vaping before they destroys your lungs

[Racehorse]

So, the 2 that have been discussed ad-naseum for years?

Yes, if you spend an entire day or 2, you can research posts right here on the forum, going all the way back to 2010-2011, there were quite a LOT of topics, even back then....yes, there were concerns.

This was before Dr. F. tested the ejuices in 2013, before he and others said DA and AP do not belong in elquid, so yes, it's been discussed quite fervently, here and elsewhere. There have been a few pharmacists, etc in these discussions as well (not that it makes a difference, but at least they didn't get their degrees from Google.

about on par with caffeine.

the pharmacological (not to mention biochemical) effects of nictotine and caffeine are entirely different universes. Sorry.

Make sure when you ask that it is Clear were talking about Habitual Inhalation. And not Ingestion.

This really is obvious, isn't it?

At any rate, stuff like the speech by Dr. Hubbs should be viewed as informational/educational, because the truth is WE JUST DON'T KNOW. No long terms studies on vaping, with a reasonable amount of test subjects (I would suggest at least 100 people, minimum) have been done, and that info would be useful 15-20 years, as we know, most disease processes tend to be CUMULATIVE in nature, and over time....

 

[Mitey F]

Yeah those Two seem to be on Many People's minds recently.

BTW - Make sure when you ask that it is Clear were talking about Habitual Inhalation. And not Ingestion. Because most consider Ingestion of these Chemicals to be GRAS under Normal Dietary conditions.

BTW2 - Did your Fiancé use an e-Cigarette to Quit Smoking?

The fiance never smoked, but she's been using one of my spare setups (mech/dripper) with 0mg juice for about 2 years now, and I've been mixing all of my own juice for about a year and a half or so. And BTW, her go-to flavor is cheesecake.

 

[CaliVaper]

What about DIY. Do the flavor extracts commonly available for DIY juice contain diketones?

 

[Mitey F]

What about DIY. Do the flavor extracts commonly available for DIY juice contain diketones?

Most of the flavors we use for DIY are the same ones juice companies use in the liquids you purchase.

 

[CaliVaper]

Most of the flavors we use for DIY are the same ones juice companies use in the liquids you purchase.

so how would you know which ones have diketones and which don't?

 

[englishmick]

What about DIY. Do the flavor extracts commonly available for DIY juice contain diketones?

Some do, some don't. Some vendors have done testing and publish their results. There's information on that in the DIY sub-forum if you are interested.

 

[CaliVaper]

Some do, some don't. Some vendors have done testing and publish their results. There's information on that in the DIY sub-forum if you are interested.

Thanks. I'll have to check that out.

 

[JavaJunkie]

Just imagine in 3-5 years if 10000 vapers come down with popcorn lung. That will officially kill vaping...

Might come before that. Doesn't really matter if you're on the side of "disclosure is all we need" or "vendors shouldn't sell it period", if this risk is believed by the general public then product liability companies won't like it. How many companies are willing to do business without product liability insurance?