And it's a role they take on willingly, even with knowledge aforethought of the difficulties. Sympathy only runs so far in that regard.
Disgusting Treatment of Member!!!
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"Consistent and fair."
Notice the key words.
If staff is inconsistent and unfair is it still honorable to defend them?
DRAT. I now have to figure out what a chode is.
Googlefu coming up.
Googlefu coming up.
I'm in complete agreement. My sympathy ends when there's blatant inconsistency and a lack of meaningful communication.
In the OUTSIDE people (not just me) keep getting moderated for literally nothing while a bunch of other members post racist, bigoted and sexist things every day. Things that are explicitly forbidden in the OUTSIDE specific rules, while concurrently moderating people for things that have nothing to do with said rules.
You're all angry about Roxy. But she's not the only one.
So do democrats, however Nazis did a lot worse.
You only see kids throwing that term around loosely because they don't understand it.
All that said, unless you are an owner, we are all guests in ECFs house.
If you act the fool, or piss on the carpet you will be asked to leave.
This isn't a democracy.
Conduct yourself as a guest in someone else's house and you will be fine.
Just like in real life.
As far as the Roxy fiasco, I wouldn't want someone hanging a sign on my front door without my permission whether you make money from it or not.
If you start shilling for any company here you will get banned.
Your income/compensation is irrelevant.
Advertising is advertising, and it's how the forum pays it's bills.
It costs $50 a year for suppliers to register? Sweet Moses man, how can anyone possibly come up with that amount? It's the Everest of finances! Oh wait, a paper boy could come up with that. I'm actually surprised it's so little.
Just my 
, But
1) I see where the Process of Elimination may once again be in need of modification
2) Having Lost Roxynoodle regardless of final decision is a Tragic Loss to the Forums as a Whole.
I agree 100% with Rules to conduct ourselves as responsible Adults. Those are the kind of people that do not need to use Derogatory Remarks to make their point. and can battle opposing opinions without the need for disgusting name calling.
I Agree there is a need to keep Shills and Business suppliers out of the main stream of the forum. This avoids a massive clutter and war of power Sales From happening in every thread.
*** I Have Not been able to understand - From Day One - Why any Forum approved Seller is incapable of having a Personal account and offering Personal opinion and Experienced advice within the forums.
Yes there is a fine line they may be required to walk, but that line should be in place to avoid a Loss of Quality Knowledge Especially in a time when Knowledge is becoming more and more important.
It would even make sense to have a Warning system, rather than insta-Ban for possible infringement, allowing the opportunity to understand what, if any - Grey Area - may have been Crossed.
This would at least allow for ADVANCED Understanding and Possibly avoid an Intellectual loss to the Community at Large.
Lastly, but Most importantly:
Should this thing get turned around........I would Most Strongly ask that Roxy consider the People She has Helped and Could continue to Help.
(Regardless of quick Decision making) *Give consideration to People in need.
People Join Daily - Looking for HELP
People Are what ultimately Matter................SAVING LIVES
Membership is what People become to get here and ask for HELP
Rules are what we agree to to GET and GIVE Help
Family is what PEOPLE Become, when they Spend time Helping Each Other.
, But 1) I see where the Process of Elimination may once again be in need of modification
2) Having Lost Roxynoodle regardless of final decision is a Tragic Loss to the Forums as a Whole.
I agree 100% with Rules to conduct ourselves as responsible Adults. Those are the kind of people that do not need to use Derogatory Remarks to make their point. and can battle opposing opinions without the need for disgusting name calling.
I Agree there is a need to keep Shills and Business suppliers out of the main stream of the forum. This avoids a massive clutter and war of power Sales From happening in every thread.
*** I Have Not been able to understand - From Day One - Why any Forum approved Seller is incapable of having a Personal account and offering Personal opinion and Experienced advice within the forums.
Yes there is a fine line they may be required to walk, but that line should be in place to avoid a Loss of Quality Knowledge Especially in a time when Knowledge is becoming more and more important.
It would even make sense to have a Warning system, rather than insta-Ban for possible infringement, allowing the opportunity to understand what, if any - Grey Area - may have been Crossed.
This would at least allow for ADVANCED Understanding and Possibly avoid an Intellectual loss to the Community at Large.
Lastly, but Most importantly:
Should this thing get turned around........I would Most Strongly ask that Roxy consider the People She has Helped and Could continue to Help.
(Regardless of quick Decision making) *Give consideration to People in need.
People Join Daily - Looking for HELP
People Are what ultimately Matter................SAVING LIVES
Membership is what People become to get here and ask for HELP
Rules are what we agree to to GET and GIVE Help
Family is what PEOPLE Become, when they Spend time Helping Each Other.
I felt the same, The small amount leads Me to believe as stated before there is much more to the underling story
Again the "Nazi" word is only used by people whose lives were not directly affected by them.
It's an insult to those who have endured, and shameful to even suggest a forum moderator in the same light.
Some people obviously have a lot to learn.
Educate yourself.
BTW, advertising here is about $50 a year... Less than two attys.
It's so small Im surprised one of you supporters didn't just foot the bill.
Much drama over fiddy bucks?
It's so small Im surprised one of you supporters didn't just foot the bill.
Much drama over fiddy bucks?
Just my
1) I see where the Process of Elimination may once again be in need of modification
2) Having Lost Roxynoodle regardless of final decision is a Tragic Loss to the Forums as a Whole.
I agree 100% with Rules to conduct ourselves as responsible Adults. Those are the kind of people that do not need to use Derogatory Remarks to make their point. and can battle opposing opinions without the need for disgusting name calling.
I Agree there is a need to keep Shills and Business suppliers out of the main stream of the forum. This avoids a massive clutter and war of power Sales From happening in every thread.
*** I Have Not been able to understand - From Day One - Why any Forum approved Seller is incapable of having a Personal account and offering Personal opinion and Experienced advice within the forums.
Yes there is a fine line they may be required to walk, but that line should be in place to avoid a Loss of Quality Knowledge Especially in a time when Knowledge is becoming more and more important.
It would even make sense to have a Warning system, rather than insta-Ban for possible infringement, allowing the opportunity to understand what, if any - Grey Area - may have been Crossed.
This would at least allow for ADVANCED Understanding and Possibly avoid an Intellectual loss to the Community at Large.
Lastly, but Most importantly:
Should this thing get turned around........I would Most Strongly ask that Roxy consider the People She has Helped and Could continue to Help.
(Regardless of quick Decision making) *Give consideration to People in need.
People Join Daily - Looking for HELP
People Are what ultimately Matter................SAVING LIVES
Membership is what People become to get here and ask for HELP
Rules are what we agree to to GET and GIVE Help
Family is what PEOPLE Become, when they Spend time Helping Each Other.
It's really hard, is the honest answer - we've tried some of the suggestions you make over the years, and it's basically just a resources issue. The mods simply cannot steward behaviour.
You know, we removed the permissions-restriction on suppliers posting outside of strict areas a few years' back, and a supplier threatened to sue us because he "accidentally posted where he wasn't previously able to and, having had a head injury, lacks impulse control" therefore we were responsible and discriminating against him because of his disability.
So, yeah, that's the sort of stuff we have to manage.
Ohh I am not saying they did not do horrible things.
But I have studied Hitlers Rise to power and see paralells still existing today in that apsect of Nazism.
I have seen no Nazi's on here.
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