Disgusting Treatment of Member!!!
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It seems the appeal has gone through the judicial system and has reached the supreme judge. Hopefully, the judge will look to the issue and decide for the overall system. Arguments, positions, opinions can get angry and lose their value in fair thought.
I am glad that the issue has finally arrived where it is and that Roxynoodle will get a decision. What she does with it is her, and her's, business. In all that I do I have to accept the way it is. I will accept it with the opportunity to make my choice to stay or move on. I suspect that Roxynoodle will share the decision in due course.
Until then, I will have a vape.
I am glad that the issue has finally arrived where it is and that Roxynoodle will get a decision. What she does with it is her, and her's, business. In all that I do I have to accept the way it is. I will accept it with the opportunity to make my choice to stay or move on. I suspect that Roxynoodle will share the decision in due course.
Until then, I will have a vape.
I have see many post from folks trying to skirt the vendor rules and shill for a product here. and they quickly get taken down. I appreciate that on the part of Admin. I am a big boy and now how to find products I am interested in. I got no dog in the hunt on this roxxy deal, what ever the reason for her moving on or getting banned is none of my bis.
She has stated that she will never return here.
Fair ?
I don't know the Context nor the Details....
Therefore; Maybe it WAS and Maybe it Was NOT.
In order to make a Fully Informed & Intelligent Judgement,
One must First be FULLY Informed and at least Somewhat Intelligent.
hmmm,,, Sounds like quite the appropriate and apt Mantra given the situation
The very fact that this thread is still open tells me that there is some indecision and/or "blurred lines"... I would hope in these rare situations that the Tie goes to the runner. Much thanks to the Administration for hearing out this thread.
Thanks, SJ. I really think simply getting an actual response, instead of stonewall, will be helpful. But there really is a lot of angst over this. People know our friend wasn't compensated, doesn't represent the manufacturer or the various suppliers, and wasn't attempting to sell anything for any kind of pecuniary interest. That does make this decision hard to understand. I will further add I believe not closing this thread is a wise move. Attempting Great Stone Face in front of this isn't helping things settle down.
I want to add I approve of this board being for consumers rather than an advertising shill. I am aware riding herd on all this is a big and complex task; in general I think your admins do a decent job, albeit I could wish they weren't so arbitrary. I also know this is private property, and I fully support your right to moderate it, or offer or deny access, upon any grounds you find pleasing. All that said, it's also true you've got members here who know a helluva lot more about this than most people in the business. This board has long been the home of the innovators, the movers and shakers, in the industry. Anybody who was in the business, and looking for product design and marketing ideas, could do a lot worse that reading the various technical and gear-specific threads. I believe you would be wise to consider this in determining just whom is, or is not, a supplier.
I want to add I approve of this board being for consumers rather than an advertising shill. I am aware riding herd on all this is a big and complex task; in general I think your admins do a decent job, albeit I could wish they weren't so arbitrary. I also know this is private property, and I fully support your right to moderate it, or offer or deny access, upon any grounds you find pleasing. All that said, it's also true you've got members here who know a helluva lot more about this than most people in the business. This board has long been the home of the innovators, the movers and shakers, in the industry. Anybody who was in the business, and looking for product design and marketing ideas, could do a lot worse that reading the various technical and gear-specific threads. I believe you would be wise to consider this in determining just whom is, or is not, a supplier.
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He just said that our mods are Nazis. I think that's enough to warrant a ban. Like, if you think our moderators are Nazis you either a. have a very poor grasp of history, or b. just hate ECF. So I think I made the right choice.Fair ?
I don't know the Context nor the Details....
Therefore; Maybe it WAS and Maybe it Was NOT.
In order to make a Fully Informed & Intelligent Judgement,
One must First be FULLY Informed and at least Somewhat Intelligent.
hmmm,,, Sounds like quite the appropriate and apt Mantra given the situation
You know, back in the early, early days of ECF we had no moderators at all. Then, one day, after a year or so I had to take a week off, so I got a mod. He didn't really do very much, but when I got back, my inbox was full of people telling me that I'd made a terrible mistake, that he was totally inappropriate, etc etc. I looked at what he'd done, suggested that we do things differently, and then carried on until the next scandal erupted, when we adjusted again, and carried on. It's called "learning".
He was called a Nazi too. And it really upset him - he was just trying to help a community he loved.
I'm going to have to side with fair, too. Too often, the term "Nazi" is thrown out there without realizing the history of the Nazis and what they represented.
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Sooooooo, how 'bout them Red Sox.
They're just finishing up spring training, and heading back up north, unclogging my roads.
Out of curiosity and because I've asked over and over again with no answer, can you tell me why my account was suspended for two weeks (ended yesterday)? PM me or have one of the other mods do it. I need to know what rule I broke.
Also, we in the OUTSIDE would like to know why racism and bigotry seem to be allowed in there now but members like me get suspended without any indication of having broken any rules...
I don't think that money was the motivating factor at all. It is merely an appropriate consequence of using the resources here IF one wants to be a supplier on, and to, this forum. For Roxy, it is an unscalable wall. But even THAT is not the worst part of supplier status for minor innovators here. It is the deletion of past contributions, and the lockdown to a particular supplier thread, with full isolation from all other aspects of the forum. THIS is the aspect of supplier status that really needs to be addressed, for the small time innovator/participants here.
Now, THAT said, I think we should all, in that same light, consider the limitations placed on our moderators, to be entirely fair about it. Not only it is an unpaid, mostly thankless job. Can you imagine the burden of that status, having to be OH so mindful of EVERYthing that you say in any post? They pretty much surrender THEIR ability to contribute in many threads, and take part in the frequent love-fests and friendships that occur here. By far one of THE most precious aspects of ECF. Having "special relationships" with other members would definitely lead to charges of favoritism, which honestly, I only perceive as being very rare, and even then I might be mistaken.
They also lose the ability to compete in, and receive the benefits of, the often contentious Prize Giveaways that occur here, while at the SAME time having to play referee and babysitter within those threads.
So, not to toss the baby out with the bath water. Let's keep respect for the mods, what they do here, and the obvious commitment that they absolutely MUST have to vaping and we vapers, to do what they do.
Not to be a suckup, but if we're going to complain about BAD service, then we ought to recognize GOOD service as well. I wouldn't want the job, and I am very thankful that SOME body does, as it does need doing. I appreciate SJ's vision in the idea of creating an opportunity for allowing suggestions and questions that might allow for positive change, or at least help us to understand why things are as they are.
I think it's because you were relentlessly behaving like a total chode. But I can't be sure.
File that under: "not a democracy" or, perhaps more pertinently, "exception which proves the rule"
If you want a serious answer, I'll see if one of the mods wants to PM you about it.
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