Does anybody know where to find tobacco flavored flavoring?
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Jaxx made a good comment earlier...The flavor your looking for is BURNDT tobacco..not tobacco flavoring...You can soak rolling tobacco in everclear and get a tobacco odor which is very strong, but not a cigarette taste...tastes more like a wet ash tray...boil it down and its gotta pretty high nicotine content, but it comes out cheaper to just buy 36 mg liquid from someone with no risk of personal injury...There is a company that sells the tobacco flavors but only in bulk and you have to convince them that you have a use for it and are willing to buy it eventually in bulk...I am very reluctant to post because in the past the links that have been posted here are either sold out 2 days later or no longer sell because of the traffic it generates on there sites. It also requires careful mixing to achieve the right flavors...I can tell you that I ruined about $300.00 worth of this stuff experimenting and I am still not sure if it is going to work.
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Liquid Express has 555 and "Original" flavorings. I ordered one of each to see how it works out.
The snus method works, but the snus flavor just isn't quite up to what I expect (5 snus in about 1/2" of VG in a jar sitting for 3 days will give you a buzz, but flavor just ain't it for me).
The snus method works, but the snus flavor just isn't quite up to what I expect (5 snus in about 1/2" of VG in a jar sitting for 3 days will give you a buzz, but flavor just ain't it for me).
I hear you man, Nah, I don't want to play with the pure nic, i know myself, i push everything to the limit. I just want to find the right concontion to find the flavor we are all looking for.
I like the 555, prob my favorate. This snus frost is not gonna do it for me. i just dipped my finger in it and i get a good taste but not what im looking for. i may try a diffrent snus flavor.
There seems to be a few cigar brand Snus flavours, Monticristo, Romeo Y Julieta Señor and Romeo Y Julieta Señorita. Could be worth a try. Perhaps the basic Snus solution can be helped along with Lorann flavors as well?
The snus flavor look good...But are you actually extracting nicotine and waht strength is it?...After all that what is the price comparison? Its kinda fun at first, but after that what is the beneifit? I actually bought a used totally encapsulated HAZMAT suit to work with...(My daughter asked me why I was going to the moon aand when I was would be returning)...But after all that I had a bottle of brown stuff that I was afraid to bring in the house
Yes there may be some content of nicotine in this solution but just letting it soak in PG is just to get the flavor. I would say if it was sitting in some everclear you world get a higher content of Nic.
Why did you get a fully enclosed hazmat suit... to make up the snus "tea"?!
Yeah don't do that!! lol! I must admit this frightens me, too.
The thing about snus is we know how much nicotine is in each one. The ones I buy are Oden brand from shop snus online. They are rated as having 17mg of nic a piece. I am not sure how much you can leech out of each snu. This is one way to do it with VG.
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I'll know how strong the result is once I try it.
Whether you know it or not, you just hit the jackpot. 'Oriental' means Turkish. Mix a quarter of the Oriental/Turkish absolute to 3/4 of the Virginia Absolute, then flavor your e-liquid with that.
Unfortunately, us menthol vapers don't have it well at all. The first menthol I got was from TW. It tasted more like a vaporized dinner mint than anything like a cigarette. Most menthol juices don't have a tobacco flavor at all. Just menthol. That's like spegetti, without the pasta. 8-o Like everyone else, I'm still looking for a good formula for a decent tobacco with a marlboro taste to begin with. Once we have that, then us menthol people can add menthol to it. Untill we have a good cigarette flavor to begin with, then it's all for naught.
From reading this thread, it looks like some very intresting projects are being worked on. I'd be very intrested in hearing how some of you are progressing in your efforts.
You were referring to jbbishop's post where he referred to a great source ("Rob") for Tobacco Absolute Oriental and to Tobacco Absolute Burley and Tobacco Absolute Virginia.
I've plowed through this thread trying to find the referents for these, but I'm confused. The two main sources for tobacco flavor (not sure what version) seem to be perfumersapprentice.com ("Tobacco Absolute" - highly concentrated) and www.liquidxpress.com ("Original flavoring" - diluted). However, I'm not sure how either of them relates to Oriental, Burley, or Virginia.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Liquidxpress - The absolute that is used in this flavoring is a Tobacco Absolute Oriental diluted.
Thank you, mindtwist! BTW, I recently ordered your (very good) 555 flavoring and some of your VG. As soon as budget permits, I'll order that "Original" (Tobacco Absolute Oriental).
Do you, or anyone, know where I could find flue-cured ("Virginia", right?) flavor? I have seen the premixed juices offered by various suppliers, but not the flavoring itself.
One of the things I like about Liquidxpress (and Juicyliquid) is that you sell the actual flavors (some of which LorAnn doesn't have), as well as the premixed juices. Saving money (and controlling nicotine level) is what has gotten me into DIY. The mad chemist satisfaction is secondary.
Thanks again!
Like all the ideas and leads here. I'm going to have to try some of this out.
I had an idea in reference to the "real" or burned tobacco taste:
I make beef jerky, and one of the ingredients I use in the solution that I soak it in is called Liquid Smoke. It's highly concentrated as I use one teaspoonfull in about three cups of liquid. When you open the bottle, it smells like a camp fire. Perhaps this can add that smokey, burned taste to the mix? It's soluble in water (and soy sauce, worcheister, etc...)
Hmmmm.... Beef Jerky flavored e-liquid...
I had an idea in reference to the "real" or burned tobacco taste:
I make beef jerky, and one of the ingredients I use in the solution that I soak it in is called Liquid Smoke. It's highly concentrated as I use one teaspoonfull in about three cups of liquid. When you open the bottle, it smells like a camp fire. Perhaps this can add that smokey, burned taste to the mix? It's soluble in water (and soy sauce, worcheister, etc...)
Hmmmm.... Beef Jerky flavored e-liquid...
Like all the ideas and leads here. I'm going to have to try some of this out.
I had an idea in reference to the "real" or burned tobacco taste:
I make beef jerky, and one of the ingredients I use in the solution that I soak it in is called Liquid Smoke. It's highly concentrated as I use one teaspoonfull in about three cups of liquid. When you open the bottle, it smells like a camp fire. Perhaps this can add that smokey, burned taste to the mix? It's soluble in water (and soy sauce, worcheister, etc...)
Hmmmm.... Beef Jerky flavored e-liquid...
Fascinating! Like most really good ideas, it seems "obvious" after someone like you has formulated and expressed it. And easy and cheap to obtain at the local supermarket.
What flavor do you recommend - hickory, mesquite, pecan or apple? Or would it be a matter of personal taste? I wonder which would best complement tobacco absolute?
And let us know how that Beef Jerky flavored e-liquid turns out. [I hope you weren't just tongue-in-cheek on that. I am curious.]
Thanks, renderwerks!
I going to try what I have - hickory. We'll see how it goes.
Additionally, I'm going to give tobacco extraction a shot. Simple for the first go around - 3 cigs worth of Camel Turkish Royal, 30ml glass container, distilled water, heat, steeping, filtration and evaporation.
I can feel the mad chemist growing as we speak...
I'm going to get searching for graduated flasks, test tubes, beakers... This is going to be fun - I should get a white lab coat, and Einstein hair.
It was half joke / half "that would probably taste good!" I've been told I make killer jerky.
My first thought is how to get the beef flavor in with the other ingredients I already know about. Perhaps filter and partially evaporate the mixture after the London Broil has soaked in it for 24 hours. Wheels are turning!
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Be very careful as you do that. You'll also be extracting nicotine, which is toxic.
Check out the recent Seriously? Roast beef flavor? thread in the General E-Smoking Discussion forum.
Good luck! I'm very interested how the smokey tobacco and the beef jerky flavors turn out!
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