Vapetrik Dorky Stud is one of the best tobaccos out there. Much better than anything I've tried from HHV and only slightly less addictive than Boba's Bounty.
doesn't live up to the hype......
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I disagree completely. Taste is subjective though. I have yet to be impressed with any of want2vape's tobaccos. I haven't tried Goodejuice yet so I can't say there but I don't feel that Halo juices are perfumey at all. Longhorn (my absolute favorite juice) is a bit sweet and while I wouldn't call it an accurate depiction of tobacco, it's still a very accomplished juice, IMO. Again, to each his own. Everything I've tried from Halo has been quality though. As for HHV, yes, the tobaccos are very sweet. Some people like this, some don't. Since I initially was in love with all of Heather's juices, I've discovered that I don't like the sweet tobaccos as much, though some of them (like Huntsman) have other qualities I really enjoy. Huntsman has an earthy flavor and I think it needs that sweetness. The others, Like Gandalf, Shadow, Dragon's Fire, etc.. are a little too sweet for me and are definitely a dessert type vape. If I had to tell Heather myself, I'd say tone down the sweetness on all of these and see how people respond. I think the tobacco flavors would shine much better.
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Which W2V juices have you tried? For real tobacco flavor, I'd put W2V Signature blends over Halo any day of the week. That's not a knock on Halo. I like its juices and agree that they're quality, but I wouldn't recommend them to a tobacco fan.
Maybe they like it because they have enough experience to be willing to be patient and wait? Your assuming that you must be right and the experienced people must be wrong or shilling for..wait for it.. juices that they like that you don't. Point of fact, it is not nonsense or the experienced people would not thing is was any where near as important.
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There are many highly hyped vendors that I've heard nothing but good things about here that i tried and liked little to nothing they had. Do I consider it a waste of money? No, I learned a long time ago I won't like every juice I try and I won't know which I like if I don't sample.
Just because you don't like a vendor doesn't mean no one else will either, just like just because you like a a vendor doesn't mean everyone else will too. A good review describes taste/texture/flavor/vapor/throat hit, "I like/I don't like" don't really matter, as that is purely subjective.
funny how you left out the rest of my quote, where i said that i contacted heather directly, and she didn't even say a month.
don't you think that it seems a little narcissistic of you, to think that you know better than heather?.....maker of the juice, and avid vaper herself. you know heathers juice....even better than heather does, lol.
i guess you are just one of those "experienced" *coughelitistcough* people that are never wrong, right??
you say it takes a month, and since you know heathers juice better than she does.....it just makes me "inexperienced" if i say different from you, right?
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I'll use my tired old analogy that I've used in a hundred other threads like this.
Let's say you've never eaten boiled okra and don't know if you'll like it.
If you ask my wife, she'll tell you she loves boiled okra, that she could eat it with every meal.
If you ask me, I'll tell you I can't stand the stuff, that I'd eat dirt first.
Based on that, will you like boiled okra?
Let's say you've never eaten boiled okra and don't know if you'll like it.
If you ask my wife, she'll tell you she loves boiled okra, that she could eat it with every meal.
If you ask me, I'll tell you I can't stand the stuff, that I'd eat dirt first.
Based on that, will you like boiled okra?
I have to say, I've spent almost $150 on all the favorite HHV flavors recommended. They were tried 1st day, hated them. Tried again in 1 month, hated them. They are not part of a landfill somewhere.
I have tried most of the flavors people recommend. I've thrown out about 100 bottles of juice. Seriously. Now I've settled on 2. Black Licorice from tasty vapor and RY4 from Clouds of vapor and red cow (red bull) from safer vapors.
I have tried most of the flavors people recommend. I've thrown out about 100 bottles of juice. Seriously. Now I've settled on 2. Black Licorice from tasty vapor and RY4 from Clouds of vapor and red cow (red bull) from safer vapors.
Actually, when I first got my first HHV order I thought I'd thrown money away. It was hideous. The bottles sat there being ignored for the longest time and I tried it again, then liked it. So many of the things I learn as a vaper are serendipitous and knowledge sometimes comes at a price. There are some juices from other vendors that have sat around for close to six months, and are never going to be good.
It would be nice to have a local vape meet where I can bring all the juices I hate and sell them cheap or trade with people who may like them. "One man's trash..." as they say.
It would be nice to have a local vape meet where I can bring all the juices I hate and sell them cheap or trade with people who may like them. "One man's trash..." as they say.
Narcissistic to take a stand with hundreds of other people biased on THEIR experience with a huge variety of e-liquids? Actually all it proves is that I am willing to learn from people who have more experience than I do.
There's two things to consider about aging/steeping juices. One is at what stage it's best at which is personal opinion, the other is how much a juice continues to change with age which is more concrete. If a vendor says there juices are ready to go at two or three weeks, all that does is gives an opinion on when they think it's best. I may find it great fresh or prefer it that way. For juices that continue to change, I may prefer it at a month or two, or even longer.
My experience with HHV, is their juices do indeed continue to morph quite a bit. Legend and Serendipity I liked fresh. Huntman, my favorite from them, kept improving after a month, getting richer and deeper. Dragon's Fire took a couple months before it was at a stage that I could dig it at.
Another thing to consider is our personal perceptions of juice changes as we acclimate to it. For the first year of vaping, my opinions on a juice would change drastically over the lifetime of a bottle. Now I can tell quicker how a well juice works for me, but depending on the juice I still may change my mind on it. Especially if it contains flavor notes that are new to me.
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My experience with HHV, is their juices do indeed continue to morph quite a bit. Legend and Serendipity I liked fresh. Huntman, my favorite from them, kept improving after a month, getting richer and deeper. Dragon's Fire took a couple months before it was at a stage that I could dig it at.
Another thing to consider is our personal perceptions of juice changes as we acclimate to it. For the first year of vaping, my opinions on a juice would change drastically over the lifetime of a bottle. Now I can tell quicker how a well juice works for me, but depending on the juice I still may change my mind on it. Especially if it contains flavor notes that are new to me.
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Perhaps.you should try your own tobacco extraction...it is what I had to do in order to find a tobacco I liked... its whqt got me.off of the analogs...now I find.Im passed that flavour and on to the sweeter choices out there but still find that once and a while I do crave a nice tobacco flavouring...
*after my changes i would say that there is MUCH more of a chance i will like it*
2 things.....
1)i disagree with your example, because we are not just talking about 1 or 2 opinions here. the opinion of 1 or 2 people isn't the same as the opinion of hundreds of people.
let's say 1 person says to me "hey, you should watch movie X" and let's just say from the previews, that it doesn't really seem like my thing. well, i'm probably not going to watch it simply because one person said it was good.
then however, 100 other people i meet say "movie X is the best movie they have ever seen. THEN movie X wins TONS of awards.
well guess what? now, maybe i will check out movie X.
2)why are you spending so much time on a thread you yourself called "pointless"??
maybe you and i have different ideas of what pointless means.
cause i think, that the only thing more pointles than a pointless thread. is a pointless post in that thread.
lemme ask ya.....what was your point of entering this talk, only to say "this talk is pointless??" was there really any point to your first reply?? other than to maybe troll??
Just my view, but a hundred people liking something doesn't mean as much as one person with similar tastes as me liking it. Especially on the internet, where anything that exists has hundreds of people who like it, and hundreds of people who don't like it. One way to look for juice is to try ones that seem more popular, or universally appealing. It's the way most people start out (I know I did). Even better though, when you start knowing your own preferences, you can get better odds by trying juices recommended by people who like the same juices you liked.
I used to read a lot of movie reviews. When I did, I mainly went by what Roger Ebert liked, because my preferences are amazing close to his. If he'd give a great review to a movie most critics didn't like, chances are I liked it too. If he didn't like a movie most critics liked, often I also wouldn't enjoy it. It wasn't 100%, but I watched much more good movies than bad. If I went with just was popular or universally appealing, my odds weren't as good. Millions love Transformers, I hated it. Millions are bored with Pup Fiction, I loved it.
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I used to read a lot of movie reviews. When I did, I mainly went by what Roger Ebert liked, because my preferences are amazing close to his. If he'd give a great review to a movie most critics didn't like, chances are I liked it too. If he didn't like a movie most critics liked, often I also wouldn't enjoy it. It wasn't 100%, but I watched much more good movies than bad. If I went with just was popular or universally appealing, my odds weren't as good. Millions love Transformers, I hated it. Millions are bored with Pup Fiction, I loved it.
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willing to learn from elitists, that think they know liquids better than all....even the people who made/created the liquid??
sounds kinda arrogant to me....well, i guess you with have your fair share of snobs in any hobby.
that would be like me going out for dinner, and a master chef makes me a meal and says "this meal goes best with red wine." then i say "sorry but no. i know better than you mister master chef, so i will go with white wine."
sorry, but i will take heathers advice about her own liquids over yours. and if you don't understand why i say that....then my narcissistic comment seems spot on.
All I'm trying to point out is that one person's opinion on a juice or a vendor is nothing more than highly personal and for them to claim to be trying to "warn" others that "xyz" vendor's juices aren't any good despite popular opinion is quite ludicrous.
If I have the same meal with red wine and then with white wine, if I enjoyed it better with white wine I'll do it that way next time too, no matter what the chef says he likes best. No one can tell me my personal preferences (it's mine and mine alone) and I can't tell others theirs. I do have commonality with some more than others though.
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