Dont call them E-cig's or Electronic cigarettes!

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mohawkx

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I try to stick to this whenever and wherever I can. We are most definitely NOT smoking - so why associate our Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhaler System :)sneaky:) with the 'evil weed'?

Seriously, though, I always refer to it as my vaporizer when asked. When pushed for details, I say it's a nicotine inhaler. The word 'cigarette' acts as a trigger for the 'antis' in the same way as a cloud of what looks like 'smoke' sets them coughing.

I'm a fan of "Inhaler" myself. Sounds more medical. I have to admit though that "Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhaler System" is a real conversation starter. :D
 

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i tried to start a revolution a while back on ECF and have members spread the word to term our "ecig/electronic cigarettes" as PV's= personal vaporizers instead..or something of the like... to rid the stigma and association to cigarettes. hopefully one day it'll catch on...then the govt would be less likely to associate tobacco laws in conjunction with PV's.

everytime someone asks me about my device i say its a vaporizer.

what do you guys think? shall the revolution begin? help me out!

I use the term Personal Vaporizer, doesn't set off any alarms referring to Cigarettes!! My 4 year old granddaughter calls it my "Viper": as in Nana, why you got your Vipers all over the house? lol
 

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To me, trying to call it something it's not is just trying to avoid what you are doing. You're not on the personal-vaporizer-forum because that name should be best, you're on the e-cigarette forum because that's the name it has become known as. If you're a big muscular guy who somehow got beat up by a chick, bruises and bumps and scratch marks all over ya, are you going to say "This skinny lil girl whooped my ....!"? Or would you really say "yeah, you should have been there, these 15 guys jumped me from out of nowhere, I took out 14 of them, but the last one had a cat he threw in my face and it scratched me up and then he ran away!!!" Why? Cause you're scared of the truth. You don't want people to associate it with smoking because you're afraid of what they will say. You'll afraid they'll say no to smoking in their place of business. It's called "beating around the bush". If anything, I would say this actually hurts us more than it helps us. You see it as helpful as keeping it separated from cigarettes. But isn't what we want is people to see that this device is helping thousands of smokers quit all the time? Isn't that why almost all of us use it? As a device that got us off regular cigs? Ok, here's the soapbox back. I'm done with it...
 

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...<snipped> Ok, here's the soapbox back. I'm done with it...

Let me get that there soapbox for a second, Hoss.

Look, perception is everything, right? In this day and age, especially now that many, many people have been 'socially conditioned' to see smoking as a Bad Thing, if we associate ourselves with regular tobacco then we are just asking for trouble somewhere further down the line.

Perception - if someone sees 'smoke' they'll think 'smoking cigarettes' - just as doctors are taught, "When you hear hooves, think horses", or, as most of us might say by the 'Duck Test', "If it walks, looks and quacks like a duck...". So, I submit that if an 'anti' sees your vapor then you have already lost more than half the battle, and no matter what you call your PV - e-cig, steamer, vaporizer, whatever - it's going to be difficult to change their perception of you as a user of an alternative form of 'evil weed'.

Now, if your device is seen before you begin vaping (such as it might if you sought permission from a business owner to use it on his premises), then we have an ideal opportunity to change the perception of what we are doing and why we are doing it. Under these circumstances, any association with 'cigarette' will create an entirely negative perception and you are making the task of perception-changing that much harder.

:facepalm: I'm being distracted here from continuing so...<hops down from soapbox>
 

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I thought the FDA already ruled to regulate them as tobacco products!? SO whats the diff?

Vaporizers are what pot heads use lol. And I love the people that don't want to call it a hit because it sounds your talking about cigarettes too. Instead they call it a toot! So ....... is more acceptable to be related to then cigarettes?

Either way it doesn't matter whether I smoke or vape, if someone wants to judge me I am sure they will find a way and I say more power too then. Life is too short for me to worry about it.
 

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The good news? The FDA failed to classify e-cig/pv as a medical device, so we don't have to get a prescription to use it.

The bad news? The FDA lumped the e-cig/pv with tobacco products, which means heavy taxes and "postal" regulations could be down the line. Stock up?

Good idea, johnny2, but I don't care what people call this thing, just leave us alone! It doesn't matter what we call it. As soon as we put something in our mouths, they wag their fingers, make that screech, call it disgusting and scream "You drug user, addict!" like the "pod people" in Invasion of The Body Snatchers. :laugh:
 

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This debate pops up every once in a while, and because people feel differently about what they want out of their ecig/pv/steamer, it always splits into multiple groups of people arguing their case.

From what I see, the people who view their device as something to help them quit smoking and then be done with it, want to call it an ecig so that they don't get bothered by other people asking too many questions about it. They do not care to inform the public on the benefits, as that doesn't factor into what they want out of their device.

On the other hand, there are people who want to spread the word and make sure ecigs/pv/steamers are available to anybody who might need it in years to come to be healthier. These people are fighting to make sure there's a positive image spread around so that the general public comes to accept the ecig/pv/steamer as a socially acceptable product (like an iPod or other such electronic device). If majority views ecigs/pvs/steamers as being as acceptable as bubblegum, there's a much higher chance that they will not be banned or outlawed.

In my opinion, it basically just comes down to the people who just want to get what they need out of it, vs the people who are trying to fight for the right to keep the products available for anybody else who might need it.
 

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I love the people that don't want to call it a hit because it sounds your talking about cigarettes too. Instead they call it a toot! So ....... is more acceptable to be related to then cigarettes?

Growing up, a toot was a polite word for fart, so I can't help but laugh when that phrase is used as it just makes me they're inhaling from a fart making machine, not a vaporizer. :D
 
i think that is a broad statement Daarigaaz-
at home, i sometimes call it a PV, E-cig, discostick, fog ninja, i could care less-
if i am informing others of it, yes, i refer to it as an e-cig?
why, because it is a catch phrase for electronic cigarette, which, it is indeed is.
it also helps newcomers recognize it for searching for info about it.
As a new vaper, would i have search for 'electronic cig' or 'personal vaporizer' when seeing it on a tv
show or movie?
you know the answer.
 

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Nice neutral post Darrigaaz. There are those who want to battle, and those who'd rather just be left alone. Makes me think of Braveheart:

MacClannough: You say you want to stay out of the troubles?

William: Ay.

MacClannough: If you can prove it, you may court my daughter. Until you prove it, my answer is no.

There are those who want to fight, and those who don't. I'm not against fighting, just like William wasn't. But I'm not going to go out looking for one by using an intentionally misleading phrase just to stir something up.

Or if any of you have any hot daughters and want me to get into the troubles and thereby allow me to court her...then I might use PV instead of e-cig :D
 

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