Dont even think about it!

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sumiquatchim

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i suggest that no one gets any box mods for now, meaning = no ipv2 - no t5 - no nothing like literally nothing. Please be patient and wait till the end of september, thats when ..... gets innovative. Im talking about the new sigelei 50 watt and 100 watt devices which are cheaper and better than any ipv2 thus far. Even if the ipv3 came out it would be blown out the window. This is just my idea, you guys might not think the same and go buying ipv2's and regretting it.
 

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the IPV2 is far from a waste of money. I have one, and it's a solid little vape powerhouse.

The important thing to remember is that regulated devices are not best with sub-ohm builds, but rather really shine from about .8 ohms and up.
I find 1.0-1.2 ohms to be the sweet spot. Here is where you can push the most voltage with these devices, should you want to.

If you really try out an IPV2 at 50 watts with a 1.2 ohm build and find it lacks power, you're crazy. At that point, it's going to be drying your cotton every hit. Insane.

So in conclusion. Buying an IPV2 just isn't waste of money at all. If you know what you're doing.
 

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1.5 ohm kayfun on my Cana right now at work. 14w.

But, later tonight when I get home, my Magma built at .9 ohms will be at 30w.

I like the flexibility of the 30w Hana.

In a couple of months, I will be interested in a IPV2 for $50.But I am seriously considering building a SX350 based mod.

What I really want is a 30w kick. My Nemesis is lonely.
 

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1.4 ohm coil in a KFL+ here too. Couldn't be happier. I feel sorry for those vapers who HAVE to have high wattage APV's or super-sub-ohm mechanicals.

I feel pretty much the same way. I'm happy at 9 watts on the Kayfun. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed vaping Cloudburst's DNA30 with a Nautilus at Stormy's Vapor Cellar a couple of weeks ago. She had the Nautilus Mini air holes drilled out to the point that it was almost like inhaling through a large unrestricted tube. The flavor was great and the vapor was cool at 23.5 watts. Still, I don't need to blow clouds and waste 10ml a day, so I vape my Kayfun at less than half that wattage and get good clouds at 4.5v on a 2.2 ohm coil.
 

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Thank you for the public service announcement.

You know what would be really dumb?
Buying a Sigeli 50w or 100w device this fall. We all know that the 150 and 200w devices are coming out next spring. The only way I can see to future-proof your purchase is to hold off buying anything until the gigwatt-range devices come out in Q4 2021.
 

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the IPV2 is far from a waste of money. I have one, and it's a solid little vape powerhouse.

The important thing to remember is that regulated devices are not best with sub-ohm builds, but rather really shine from about .8 ohms and up.
I find 1.0-1.2 ohms to be the sweet spot. Here is where you can push the most voltage with these devices, should you want to.

If you really try out an IPV2 at 50 watts with a 1.2 ohm build and find it lacks power, you're crazy. At that point, it's going to be drying your cotton every hit. Insane.

So in conclusion. Buying an IPV2 just isn't waste of money at all. If you know what you're doing.

I'm not sure if you're implying that I don't know what Im' doing....but my point was that the IVP is outdated and old technology. Why wouldn't you buy something that can go higher as you never know where your vaping will take you. You might not want 50-75watts right now, but that's not to say you won't in the future. That's how I see it. I never used to lung inhale, but now that's all I do. I never liked airy draws...now I can't stand a tight draw. Things change...so why not buy something with the ability to change with you?
 

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    Laugh if you want, but I still enjoy an old carto tank from time to time. They start to get raggy (is that a word?) at 5v (8 watts)
    Remember all the HH-357 threads from a couple of years ago? Well they're still as good a vape today as they were back then!
    I have to laugh at how expensive we thought they were ($25), and at how cheap we think a KayFun clone is today ($50)



    Rip was a little calmer back in those days :lol:
     
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    You're outdated, man! The only real solution to any vaping related problem is MORE POWER! Even if you don't have any problems; MORE POWER!!

    :oops: :toast:

    I used to think the same way...more control (VV/VW) and more power. But now I think the inexperienced vapors are the ones thinking along those lines.

    VW mods are great for building coils with higher ohms. But a mechanical mod can be just as good if you have the experience to balance your PG/vg juice ratio. And build the right ohms.

    My mechs and rbas are set it and forget it...until I change the battery or build a new coil. And IMO I don't think anyone needs a device that's more 20 Watts.
     

    WattWick

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    I used to think the same way...more control (VV/VW) and more power. But now I think the inexperienced vapors are the ones thinking along those lines.

    VW mods are great for building coils with higher ohms. But a mechanical mod can be just as good if you have the experience to balance your PG/vg juice ratio. And build the right ohms.

    My mechs and rbas are set it and forget it...until I change the battery or build a new coil. And IMO I don't think anyone needs a device that's more 20 Watts.

    I was being sarcastic. I think you're spot on with balancing ones PG/VG ratio and building the right coils. And that's sort of my (not very obvious :( ) point; lots of people seem to skip to the low end/brute force approach before trying to tweak anything along the way. I've seen quite a few very low resistance builds that are nothing but a showcase for wasted energy. Trying to heat half-a-pound of kanthal with a meager single-cell IMR battery. Not saying everyone does that...
     

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    For awhile there I too thought that sub-ohm mega watts was the only way to go. Not anymore. I have 4 Kayfuns, 3 of which are on DNA 30 devices. One is at 1.2 ohms and the others are at 1.5 ohms, all running 13-15 watts depending on the juice I have in them. The other kayfun is at .8 ohms on a mech, so it's putting out 22.05 watts when fully charged and to be honest with you... I like the performance of the kayfuns on the DNA 30 running lower watts better.

    Now that's with the kayfun RBA's; I can put an Aqua that's running dual coils (1.6 ohm) on the DNA 30 and I have to dial it down to 11 watts. I don't know why... I just don't like the vape any higher than 11w on the aqua.
     
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    Krashman Von Stinkputin

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    My father once joked he was wouldn't buy a PC until they had figured out how to make one that wouldn't be obsolete.

    There will always be "something better" around the bend.

    This might be an excellent time for people looking to step up"to take advantage of the price drops on the "old" models that will accompany the impending release of the "latest and greatest".

    My 20W device with Kayfun has yet to see the north side of 12W with the juices I vape anyway,
     
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