Dr. Phil

[AXIOM_1]

I need a Florida winter home
I don't think I'm old enough yet to rock the white pants and matching dress shoes, nope, not happening.

Yeah I need one too.... I am getting sick of icicles hanging off my .... every winter.... Living in Northern States is getting old for sure...

 

[Brewdawg1181]

As to that site, it's generally reasonable, but like anything don't believe it because you read it on the internet. Especially regarding addictive qualities of nicotine. While nicotine itself does not cause significant illness or is a carcinogen, there's plenty of evidence it is addictive. .

I don't believe it because I read it on the internet. In fact, my point is, I can't find it to read on the internet. Please cite something, anything, to support your 3rd sentence. That's my point- we've all taken it for granted that it's proven that nicotine is addictive, because we've heard it for decades. But EVERYTHING everyone cites relates to nicotine delivered via tobacco combustion. After reading about potential health benefits of nicotine a while back, I started looking a while back for anything that supports your statement, but simply can't find it. And lets forget the illness and other negative effects - that's not what I'm talking about. Show me anything that shows nicotine without tobacco combustion is addictive at all, much less highly addictive. I'm not being combative, Eskie - I'd really like to see and know, rather than taking it as a given.

 

[Rockford]

I was just in Mexico and they were all saying they're paying for a wall.... I don't believe it

 

[Rossum]

I need a Florida winter home
I don't think I'm old enough yet to rock the white pants and matching dress shoes, nope, not happening.

Shoes? In Florida? That's just wrong. Flip-flops are fine, and sandals if you're being formal.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Shoes? In Florida? That's just wrong. Flip-flops are fine, and sandals if you're being formal.

Did Don Johnson leave Florida?

 

[Rossum]

Did Don Johnson leave Florida?

That's Miami, which isn't really representative of the rest of Florida, and certainly not the part where my place is.

 

[AXIOM_1]

That's Miami, which isn't really representative of the rest of Florida, and certainly not the part where my place is.

Miami isn't part of Florida? I'm throwing my atlas away.

 

[AXIOM_1]

I don't believe it because I read it on the internet. In fact, my point is, I can't find it to read on the internet. Please cite something, anything, to support your 3rd sentence. That's my point- we've all taken it for granted that it's proven that nicotine is addictive, because we've heard it for decades. But EVERYTHING everyone cites relates to nicotine delivered via tobacco combustion. After reading about potential health benefits of nicotine a while back, I started looking a while back for anything that supports your statement, but simply can't find it. And lets forget the illness and other negative effects - that's not what I'm talking about. Show me anything that shows nicotine without tobacco combustion is addictive at all, much less highly addictive. I'm not being combative, Eskie - I'd really like to see and know, rather than taking it as a given.

The properties of Nicotine have been debated here for eons …. (without success)

 

[smacuser]

I need a Florida winter home
I don't think I'm old enough yet to rock the white pants and matching dress shoes, nope, not happening.

The longer I've been here, the more Canuck plates I've seen; rates are cheap. Wearing white is tight all year long round here my friend.

 

[AXIOM_1]

The longer I've been here, the more Canuck plates I've seen; rates are cheap. Wearing white is tight all year long round here my friend.

Keep a place open for me. I am heading away from the freezing North one of these days.

 

[smacuser]

Keep a place open for me. I am heading away from the freezing North one of these days.

Certainly, the more the merrier.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Certainly, the more the merrier.

yeah and we can drink together

 

[Brewdawg1181]

The properties of Nicotine have been debated here for eons …. (without success)

Yes, a lot of things have been debated here- many are subjective, and can't be proven. But so often, people state, as a matter of simple, established fact (the earth isn't flat!), that nicotine is highly addictive incessantly- yet after over 60 years of study, it's odd that there isn't a ton of evidence to substantiate that. Okay, not a ton, but how about a single study? You would think there would be at least one single study that relates to nicotine without tobacco, right? I accepted it for years, but am kind of shocked that there isn't a scintilla of evidence that I can find to support it. But if you state this, people think you're a tinfoil hat wearing, black helicopter kind of guy. OK, rant over, but - why do we all question so many things that are far more studied, documented, and "proven", but not this?

 

[VapourFlavour]

The longer I've been here, the more Canuck plates I've seen; rates are cheap. Wearing white is tight all year long round here my friend.

What about just a white T?

 

[Eskie]

I don't believe it because I read it on the internet. In fact, my point is, I can't find it to read on the internet. Please cite something, anything, to support your 3rd sentence. That's my point- we've all taken it for granted that it's proven that nicotine is addictive, because we've heard it for decades. But EVERYTHING everyone cites relates to nicotine delivered via tobacco combustion. After reading about potential health benefits of nicotine a while back, I started looking a while back for anything that supports your statement, but simply can't find it. And lets forget the illness and other negative effects - that's not what I'm talking about. Show me anything that shows nicotine without tobacco combustion is addictive at all, much less highly addictive. I'm not being combative, Eskie - I'd really like to see and know, rather than taking it as a given.

Nicotine dependence: studies with a laboratory model. - PubMed - NCBI

Animal model based on use of nicotine, not combustible tobacco

Modeling nicotine addiction in rats. - PubMed - NCBI

Animal model nicotine infusion

https://www.researchgate.net/profil...588874000000/Changeux-2010-NatRevNeurosci.pdf

Animal model nicotine alone

There are dozens and dozens more. Tobacco adds additional addictive issues including other chemicals in the soup, but there's plenty of evidence nicotine has all the properties of an addictive substance.

Nicotine Addiction

Nice summary both human and animal studies both tobacco and nicotine biochemical and genetic basis for addictive qualities and propensity variations in populations.

 

[brewbear]

I think my customer must have been watching. Yesterday she said to me "oh you smoke"? I said I haven't smoked in over 7 years, she said "oh well vaping is the same thing". I earlier noticed she had an electrical fake fireplace and I said, is that the same as a wood burning fireplace and she said no and I said, it's the same thing, no difference. I then had to set her straight and she listened.

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But did she understand?

 

[smacuser]

yeah and we can drink together

You, me and the rest of my "relatives" who live here.

 

[AXIOM_1]

You, me and the rest of my "relatives" who live here.

LOL …. I don't need any relatives to drink with... I do fine all by myself

 

[VapourFlavour]

You, me and the rest of my "relatives" who live here.

That guy definitely needs one of those t-shirts I posted above. I'll bet they're lining up for some of that, cousins too!

 

[smacuser]

LOL …. I don't need any relatives to drink with... I do fine all by myself

Suit yourself. I kick them out on a regular basis.