You think he's related to this guy? Winner of the Darwin award!Suit yourself. I kick them out on a regular basis.
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You think he's related to this guy? Winner of the Darwin award!
Thats crazy!! He should be pulling the rope with his left hand.
I have to disagree. I vape, I mix flavours for other people and occasionally use flavours myself but I cant stand the lingering odour of 2nd hand vapour. There is something off about it that I cant explain.Non-smokers used to grumble to smokers about having to deal with smelling stinky cigarette smoke. You then switch to vaping, which if it has any odor it is pleasant yet they still grumble…. They automatically assume that it is as harmful as smoking as they have been propagandized.
Some vapers think that the taste and smell is delicious and seem to like to share it around like its the coolest thing ever but I dont think they realize how sickly and off their vape can smell to other people.
You think he's related to this guy? Winner of the Darwin award!
LOL
I doubt it. I simply think when they see something that looks like smoke , it is smoke. I at least got her kind of thinking about it.
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Interesting observation... I have always had people tell me how nice it smelled compared to when I smoked... Cigarette smoke is what most people consider to be foul and offensive. Not only the smell, but the second-hand smoke is unhealthy... When you smoke, everything around you absorbs the nasty odor... I used to have people shy away from me even when I wasn't smoking because they said my cloths smelled like cigarettes. I can't imagine how vapor could be anywhere as irritating as cigarette smoke with it's thousands of nasty and toxic chemicals.
I get it, I understand. When I first started vaping I vaped with flavours and thought they were great.
All the rest about stinking cigs has nothing to do with stinky vape juice. Not everyone that vapes realise that their inhaled and then expelled vape juice can actually be quite a sickly smelling odour for a lot of bystanders.
If you have ever been stuck somewhere and are forced to listen to someone elses terrible music, thats exactly what it it is like for some people to have to put up ith someone elses vape spew.
Thanks, Eskie- some of it was interesting reading.
Nice to actually see studies done, but nothing nearly as conclusive as one would think after all these decades. I mean, nicotine of course has some level of addictive properties, depending on how addictive is defined. I'd love to see a side by side study with caffeine. 1st link- just a statement in an abstract from 2001, no real info there. It's been widely noted that there are real problems with nicotine studies from that era.
2nd link- another abstract, 2012, no study available without purchase. It refers to the problems from earlier studies. States Initial attempts at establishing nicotine self-administration had been problematic. Then has a statement saying: increasingly reliable models of nicotine self-administration have been developed. But I didn't want to purchase to see more.
3rd link- Really good info. Nice review of a pretty exhaustive study, but has a few its own problems, really. Work is done on genetically mutated mice, that don't really respond like wild mice anymore, but respond similar to humans, so it is considered to further legitimize the study.
Interesting, though, that it also points out how different nicotine "addiction" is compared to any other drug: comparatively miniscule withdrawal, no decreased sensitivity/escalating usage, only fractionally as addictive as opiates, alcohol, ........ As an addictive drug, it seems to stand alone in those respects.
4th link- only deals with tobacco related nicotine.
Have you seen any trials done with non-smoking humans? That would be interesting.
For me, fresh is the operative word. Freshly lit cigarette - still smells okay, I guess - not terrible anyway. Someone walking back into the restaurant after smoking...not so good. Most juices smell pretty good in the bottle, and even freshly exhaled. My son's room a day after he and his friends had cloud chasing sessions in there - again, not so good. Like a nice cologne- ever smell a woman who habitually over applies, and it seeps into her coat? I had a salesman who worked for me in the 80's, and he apparently loved Polo. I liked it okay. But every morning when he walked in, his sports coats reeked of stale Polo. (I almost still gag thinking about it).I get it, I understand. When I first started vaping I vaped with flavours and thought they were great.
All the rest about stinking cigs has nothing to do with stinky vape juice. Not everyone that vapes realise that their inhaled and then expelled vape juice can actually be quite a sickly smelling odour for a lot of bystanders.
If you have ever been stuck somewhere and are forced to listen to someone elses terrible music, thats exactly what it it is like for some people to have to put up ith someone elses vape spew.
I get it, I understand. When I first started vaping I vaped with flavours and thought they were great.
All the rest about stinking cigs has nothing to do with stinky vape juice. Not everyone that vapes realise that their inhaled and then expelled vape juice can actually be quite a sickly smelling odour for a lot of bystanders.
If you have ever been stuck somewhere and are forced to listen to someone elses terrible music, thats exactly what it it is like for some people to have to put up ith someone elses vape spew.
Like I said b4, interesting observation …. I have never observed what you have mentioned however... Probably because I have never really vaped around very many people as I live in a remote place and keep off to myself. The people I have vaped around have always told me how good smelling that the vapor is. I have never once had anyone tell me that the odor is foul or that it stinks..... That's not to say that there are not people who complain as I am sure there are.... It's just never happened to me (yet) … As for smoking tobacco, I cannot stand the smell of those nasty things nowadays. It is hard for me to believe that I smoked those nasty things for 40 years. To myself, they just plain stink.
Slimy.
Oz reminds me of Mr. Haney (Green Acres). That "thing" he does, pretending to not "endorse" things, drives me up a wall. Technically he's not endorsing them, but he knows exactly what he's doing.
"Dr. Phil" should be in jail too (IMO). Useless creatures in society. No shortage, we.
Rant over - sorry. :\
Note to self: "DO NOT POST after long & rough days."
Got it. Again, apologies.
Still truths, but unnecessary and zero value.
Why not? It was a funny post and exposes how you feel (rock on Brother) … Besides, both mentioned individuals, are there for ratings and $$$$
Thanks, Ax, but you're biased, and I'm cranky - and taking it out on poor Drs. Phil & Oz.
yeah but I think they can handle it … get some sleep Brother as you sound like you need some.
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