Dual Coil Cartos on the Lavatube??

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Was thinking about getting my first VV device, and the lavatube seems to be good for VV noobs. However, based on my research and youtube vids, Dual Coil Cartos get 'protected' and reduced down to 3.7 volts OR LESS. I can see this being the case for a LR 1.5ohm DCC. But what about a 2.5 ohm or 3.0 ohm dual coil carto? Those are rated for up to 6 volts or more. Will the lava tube reduce the voltage down because they are dual coil and not single coil?

I don't own an inline voltage meter attachment, and everywhere I look, places are sold out, (if you know of a place that has them in stock, please let me know) so I won't be able to test for my self.

Has anyone here used a 2.0 or 2.5 or 3.0 dual coil carto on a lavatube with a voltage meter attached to verify it can vape at 5-6 volts?

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It would be nice if you had posted a link to the thread answering your question, or even briefly describing it here. It helps us guys from the future who have come across your thread because we are looking for the same answer you had asked. You see, this place is kind of like a library, full of books... albeit with incomplete chapters...
So now I continue the search....
 

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It would be nice if you had posted a link to the thread answering your question, or even briefly describing it here. It helps us guys from the future who have come across your thread because we are looking for the same answer you had asked. You see, this place is kind of like a library, full of books... albeit with incomplete chapters...
So now I continue the search....

Here is the 'link'........FORGET the lavatube or whatever else they are calling it these days........It doesn't perform as promised.......maybe the "next generation" lavatube will fix the problems but as it stands now, it doesnt HOLD the voltage you "set it for" nor does it like "dual coil stuff" as it lowers the voltage IMMEDIATELY....If you want to SAVE yourself money "in the long run", get a PROVARI......I have owned and used both extensively and the Provari wins "hands down".....(for a price) you only get what you pay for......NO FREE RIDES........Good Luck......
 

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Here is the 'link'........FORGET the lavatube or whatever else they are calling it these days........It doesn't perform as promised.......maybe the "next generation" lavatube will fix the problems but as it stands now, it doesnt HOLD the voltage you "set it for" nor does it like "dual coil stuff" as it lowers the voltage IMMEDIATELY....If you want to SAVE yourself money "in the long run", get a PROVARI......I have owned and used both extensively and the Provari wins "hands down".....(for a price) you only get what you pay for......NO FREE RIDES........Good Luck......

My LT works fine..I mean it has the same amp limit the V1 Provari has and it costs 1/4 the price..it's funny Provari owners seem to be pretty much the only VV owners that seem to feel the need to dis the LT..I think they feel special they paid that much for a device..last week I had enough free money to buy a dozen Provari's yet I didn't buy one..I still have plenty but I'll be getting another LT when the next version is in stock at most of the vendors...
 

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I'll be honest, to me it just seems like Provari owners are just trying to help people avoid the pitfalls of vaping. In their own experience the device they're using has worked amazingly for them and they're just trying to help people out. I don't own a LT or a Provari, so I have no vested interest in these discussions, but generally they just seem to be offering a warning to potential buyers. The one thing I have noticed is that you have a propensity to respond to every Provari offering on the defensive. The Lavatube works for you and many people, and it doesn't work as well for others. Just because you disagree with the way people make claims about their device, doesn't necessarily make the method you go about defending yours appropriate. I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid, but there must be a better way to go about expressing it.
 

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I'll be honest, to me it just seems like Provari owners are just trying to help people avoid the pitfalls of vaping. In their own experience the device they're using has worked amazingly for them and they're just trying to help people out. I don't own a LT or a Provari, so I have no vested interest in these discussions, but generally they just seem to be offering a warning to potential buyers. The one thing I have noticed is that you have a propensity to respond to every Provari offering on the defensive. The Lavatube works for you and many people, and it doesn't work as well for others. Just because you disagree with the way people make claims about their device, doesn't necessarily make the method you go about defending yours appropriate. I'm not saying your opinion isn't valid, but there must be a better way to go about expressing it.

I started responding to Provari owners dissing the LT because I got sick of reading it..if they want to say it works a little better and has a nicer finish I'm find with that but I'm sick of reading them say the LT is junk when it's decent. I have been reading for months about this and just had enough a couple weeks ago. BTW there are people that aren't happy with their Provari also..it is mass produced too..most likely the chip in them is probably made in China...
 

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The biggest complaint about LT I have been reading, is it is not holding the set Voltage. I think many went to Provari because of that. I never tried a LT but have considered it. I ended up with a Provari mini, just because it has a good performance record. It is easy to sink tons of money in ecigs, heck I have spent more on 808's than the Provari cost me, I do like the Provari, the only complaint I have is it is heavier than I expected. But anyone can spend their money on anything they want, to each their own in the vape world :) bnrk
 

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To each their own I suppose, to me it just doesn't seem like an effective way to make the case. Then again I don't usually look at threads bashing the Lavatube so I don't have the same perspective. No offense intended to you at all Chrispy, happy vaping!

Well I've been reading a lot of threads in the VV section for months..I don't look for LT bashing threads but when I come across them I respond sometimes. Most of the time I see posts when someone is looking for a VV..I do think the LT isn't for everyone nor is the Provari.

With any device I recommend doing a lot of research before buying and maybe neither device is right for some..I pretty much knew what the LT would be like before I bought one and it was actually better than I expected after reading about them. It isn't a effective way to promote the Provari by bashing a LT (not saying you are doing this) where probably 90% or more of people that own them are happy..some people even own both and other VV's and they are happy with all of them...
 

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Believe this though, when the Smok Tech VMax comes out on the market Provari users won't be talking the way they do! I believe there should be shared love between manufacturer's, but all you hear is DISS-DISS-DISS! ALL PV's are a matter of preference whether it is a stacked battery device or a single battery device and ALL PV's have one sole thing in common with its owners and that's...VAPING!
 
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My LT works fine..I mean it has the same amp limit the V1 Provari has and it costs 1/4 the price..it's funny Provari owners seem to be pretty much the only VV owners that seem to feel the need to dis the LT..I think they feel special they paid that much for a device..last week I had enough free money to buy a dozen Provari's yet I didn't buy one..I still have plenty but I'll be getting another LT when the next version is in stock at most of the vendors...

Thats the spirit Chrispy!! Whats the "next version" of the LT going to cost? Add it all up.......I think you are the one who likes to spend money.....I dont.......
 

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Thats the spirit Chrispy!! Whats the "next version" of the LT going to cost? Add it all up.......I think you are the one who likes to spend money.....I dont.......

Yeah but right now I have 5-6 devices loaded up with different flavors ready to go sitting next to me..when I go out I'll grab a couple or so ;) I don't need the next LT but I believe the kit will come out around just under $100 for a chrome one.

But like the LT's did before in a short time the prices will drop..I would be happy paying $60-70 for a chrome kit but I would be even happier paying under $50 for a chrome next version LT by itself as the 2 batteries I already have would be fine for 2 devices.

I spent a good amount this last week on stuff I didn't need..got a 42" 3D tv, 2 guitars, a couple guitar stands and a case for the acoustic I bought. I already had a 42" HDTV but it was getting old kind of so I sold it and used that money towards the 3D TV..I had an ok guitar that played/stayed in tune but it was low end so I got a little better one plus an acoustic..I traded in my old one too. I can spend money but I like to get the best bang for my buck and I did..I got that stuff for just under $900 if you take off what I traded/sold.
 

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most likely the chip in them is probably made in China...
No, the chip is not made in China (nor is anything on/in the provari AFAIK).

If you could source the parts and build an equivalent product for so much less money, I'd love to see it, and I'm sure plenty of other budget conscious vapers too. The problem is all of your posts are speculative, but you put them forth in a way that makes it seem like you believe they are more fact-based. That, and the fact that you can't really give an objective opinion on both devices until you've actually used both of them. By and large, the people that have chosen to upgrade their LTs to a provari (or like myself, researched both and decided to jump straight to the provari) have not regretted their decision to get a higher quality (and of course priced) mod.

I haven't had the opportunity to use a LT, but IMO you can reduce it down to this: the LT (using the majority of experiences I've seen from users to gauge) doesn't do what it claims to. According to the manufacturer:
"Regulated output which keeps the voltage the same with each puff - regardless of your remaining battery power. As the battery drains, the device will keep the voltage consistent."
That's not to say there aren't other issues as well (I.E the device not notifying you when it can't provide enough power, only remembering set voltages for a few seconds after pulling battery, etc), but I think people have a reasonable expectation that the build quality and durability might not be top notch being that it is a "budget" option. But for people that want a truly consistent experience, and enjoy the feel and durability of a truly well made and thought out device that you'll be using day in day out (at least I do), the provari is a great choice, among others.
 

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No, the chip is not made in China (nor is anything on/in the provari AFAIK).

Then why did it take them a couple weeks to get the chips?..read that right on there site.

And only a few users claim it doesn't do what it's supposed to..a lot just saw videos saying it doesn't work like it supposed to and assumed it didn't..I have tested my device and it works like it is supposed to.

It's personal preference if you would want it to limit amps automatically or put up an error code..myself I would rather have vapor when I push the button..besides if you know the limit it isn't hard to figure out what it is.

The Provari is less than 2x the device as the LT yet it costs 4x more. I'm not spending that much to try the device the info I have got from people testing them or owning them is good enough for me...
 

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Then why did it take them a couple weeks to get the chips?..read that right on there site.

I'm not sure what exactly you're referencing, but regardless, I don't see how a delay in receiving components automatically means it's coming from overseas? That's quite an inference to make, but your M.O is typically putting forth your own speculation as if it has factual basis...

And only a few users claim it doesn't do what it's supposed to..a lot just saw videos saying it doesn't work like it supposed to and assumed it didn't..I have tested my device and it works like it is supposed to.

Do you have any empirical data from your tests you could throw up on google docs or something? I also think it was more than "a few" users that made this claim. I've seen it posted time and time again that the LT doesn't keep voltage consistent as the battery drains and doesn't provide the exact set voltage (what it "claims" to do).

It's personal preference if you would want it to limit amps automatically or put up an error code..myself I would rather have vapor when I push the button..besides if you know the limit it isn't hard to figure out what it is.

My personal preference would be to have the device provide the exact voltage it's set at. Not to be left to wonder if the device is actually at the voltage it's set to.

The Provari is less than 2x the device as the LT yet it costs 4x more. I'm not spending that much to try the device the info I have got from people testing them or owning them is good enough for me...

Again, this is your opinion as someone that has never so much as laid their hands on the device in question. I've never said the LT isn't worth what they're charging for it (since I haven't used one personally), but based on everything I've seen, I think it does have very real shortcomings that can't be explained away by "a few people must have gotten bad units".
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Then why did it take them a couple weeks to get the chips?..read that right on there site.

I'm not sure what exactly you're referencing, but regardless, I don't see how a delay in receiving components automatically means it's coming from overseas? That's quite an inference to make, but your M.O is typically putting forth your own speculation as if it has factual basis...

Yes it is speculation from reading about the device on the Provape site. But also there is nothing there that says the chips are not made in China..it says Made in America but that doesn't automatically meant 100% made in America (doesn't have to be %100% to bear that tag) nor does it mean it was Made in the USA like things used to say in this country. I would guess the tube and cap are made here but I'm not 100% sure the rest is..I'm also sure it's assembled here...

And only a few users claim it doesn't do what it's supposed to..a lot just saw videos saying it doesn't work like it supposed to and assumed it didn't..I have tested my device and it works like it is supposed to.

Do you have any empirical data from your tests you could throw up on google docs or something? I also think it was more than "a few" users that made this claim. I've seen it posted time and time again that the LT doesn't keep voltage consistent as the battery drains and doesn't provide the exact set voltage (what it "claims" to do).

Do you?..I know from reading thousands upon thousands of threads there are a lot less complaining than liking the device. They also sell as sites that sell them regularly sell out of them.

It's personal preference if you would want it to limit amps automatically or put up an error code..myself I would rather have vapor when I push the button..besides if you know the limit it isn't hard to figure out what it is.

My personal preference would be to have the device provide the exact voltage it's set at. Not to be left to wonder if the device is actually at the voltage it's set to.

Well I guess you're not getting that because the Provari has limits too and if you have a version 1 it's the same limit as the LT V1 and higher amp LT's are available right now.


The Provari is less than 2x the device as the LT yet it costs 4x more. I'm not spending that much to try the device the info I have got from people testing them or owning them is good enough for me...

Again, this is your opinion as someone that has never so much as laid their hands on the device in question. I've never said the LT isn't worth what they're charging for it (since I haven't used one personally), but based on everything I've seen, I think it does have very real shortcomings that can't be explained away by "a few people must have gotten bad units".



Hey that's your opinion too and isn't it obvious that this is my opinion?..I mean anyone who's posting something that is there opinion and no need to state it is really. So I don't really need you to tell me it's my opinion nor do I need to be told someone is stating opinion on the forum. You're also basing your opinion of the LT from what other posted when you trying to tell me not to do the same.

Do you have numbers of people that are complaining?..what I see is mostly the same few people mostly complaining about it..Just as an example: If there was 1,000 LT owners on this site and 30 of them had issues that would be well within acceptable for an electronic device. There are also shortcomings with the Provari..I just read today about the chip and screen not staying in place sometimes with them..with a $160 device that probably shouldn't happen.

I'm sure there are more than 1,000 LT owners that come here and I don't see 30 people complaining..I see maybe 10 that complain constantly though..I'm sure there are thousands that are not happy but hundreds of thousands if not more than a million that are or the device wouldn't sell...
 
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