e cig vaping VS addative-free cigarettes? winston american spirit

[veganvap]

Winston and American Spirit are addative-free besides the manditory addative required some years ago that makes them go out when not smoked to less likely to start a fire (but don't argue too much that that 1 addative makes vaping much healthier).
A lot of info about why vaping is better is about being addative-free. I couldn't find info about vaping vs addative-free cigs.
With 1-10, 10 being the worst, would you say addative-free light cigs are a 10 and organinc vaping is a 7? Of course full flavor filterless cigs with addatives would be higher than that 10, but just using it for example. Thanks so much.

 

[DPLongo22]

Vapor dissipates; smoke, not so much. Our lungs and CV systems are likely to prefer the former over the latter.

 

[VapeAddict]

Most of the damage that a cigarette causes to the body comes from the actual burning process, so it doesn't really matter if the cigarette is completely additive free...you still have to burn it to get the nicotine.

 

[Titanium]

There's still tar, tobacco, nicotine (trace amounts) and the cost.
Vaping on the other hand....

 

[J.R. Bob Dobbs]

Beat me to it!
and yeah they stink, make your clothes, curtains and walls turn brown.
vaping does not.

There's still tar, tobacco, nicotine (trace amounts) and the cost.
Vaping on the other hand....

 

[DC2]

Burning tobacco = 10
Vaping = 0.1

Nicotine is not the harmful part of cigarette smoking...
The inhalation of smoke is the harmful part.

 

[shatner]

Is this real life? Just because it's additive free doesn't mean it's a safer cigarette. It says it right on the freaking box of smokes.

It's combustion that's makes the smoke and smoke itself that's bad for you.

 

[Brotolemaeus]

That entire post is a loaded question. Burning and inhaling smoke from a source known to have carcinogens is much worse than vaporizing a known, frequently used food related product (VG/PG) and pure nicotine. This isn't even on the same scale.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

That entire post is a loaded question. Burning and inhaling smoke from a source known to have carcinogens is much worse than vaporizing a known, frequently used food related product (VG/PG) and pure nicotine. This isn't even on the same scale.

It's like asking which would do more damage to my brain, a 44 magnum to the temple or a 357 magnum to the temple.

Vaping would be a BB gun from 50 yards.

 

[Bosco]

As others have said - combustion/smoke is probably the biggest harm from cigarettes. Another reason why e-cigs MAY be safer is that tobacco contains several other chemicals besides nicotine. According to Wikipedia, it is these other chemicals, in tandem with nicotine, that cause smoking to be so addictive.

Just my guess/opinion . .but if doing nothing is a 0 and smoking regular commercial cigarettes is a 10 . .then smoking additive free cigs is a 7 and vaping is a 3. I would guess/opine that coffee drinking is probably a 2 . . or maybe 3 for very heavy consumers.

 

[veganvap]

but you are all assuming inhailing PG/PV is harmless, which is still unknown (why hasn't this been heavily researched yet, I have no clue), The cough and lung discomfort vaping sometimes gives (I have to french inhail through the nose to avoid sometimes) tells me it can't be good. My goal's not to become one of these vapeaholics chian vaping and owning tens of PVs and cases full of juice yada yada assuming it's safe, just assuming it's much safer than cigs and using as a craving killer.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

Inhalation of pg has been shown to be beneficial since about the 1940's.
it is used in hospitals & asthma inhalers.

 

[Faylool]

If I no other resource except my own body and it's reaction to what I put into it I shave to say smoking is definitely weird, makes hard to breath with any exercise makes me cough chronically and my first one made nauseated, dizzy and my heart speed up. Nicotine is a poison, it says so all over this site. So your looking to get it from smoking tobacco that supposedly has nothing else in it and call it the same as vaping it looks like to me. How long have you been able read write talk and listen to your language? Google, smoke, charcoal grilling and all the smoke related articles and your health. Why propose a bunch vapers support your desire to inhale smoke?

 

[Brotolemaeus]

PG/VG is in many medicinal products, including oragel and inhalers. Nicotine is the only risk, and its probably less harmful than the three extra large monsters people gulp down a day.

 

[J.R. Bob Dobbs]

You'll shoot your eye out!

it's like asking which would do more damage to my brain, a 44 magnum to the temple or a 357 magnum to the temple.

Vaping would be a bb gun from 50 yards.

:d

 

[volume control]

Im under the impression that the combustion process creates a lot of nasties that you dont want, and its not so much the 6000 some off chemicals found in some cigs that are the majority of the health issue with using them, its the burning smoke

 

[Silversmith]

Smoke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia vs. Vapor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I fail to see how this is even a question to be asked.

 

[yzer]

Winston and American Spirit "additive-free": 9 on your scale of 10

Vaping with USP grade nicotine, propylene glycol (PG) and gylcerin (VG): 1 on the scale of 10.

What about the paper you are burning?

USP grade is the best available. The label "organic" has no value if the product is already USP.

Smoking or toasting (hookah style) tobacco is riskier than vaping quality e-liquids by a huge degree.

 

[Thucydides]

I smoked Nat Sherman's, which are additive free. They also use much higher quality tobacco, and use only the center part of the leaf with no large veins or stems (which are filler products in even the best drug-store brands of cigarettes). They are a much different experience than even the highest quality drug-store brand cigarettes, including American Spirit. For a single cigarette, the smoke of a Nat Sherman much denser and less harsh. The Sherman will also burn a lot more slowly, so you either become a more aggressive smoker or take longer smoke breaks.

Over time, smoking habits tend to become pretty different for Sherman smokers, too. When I couldn't get to a tobacconist to purchase Nat Sherman's, I'd buy Marlboro Reds. Although they were much harsher, I'd quickly find myself smoking more than a pack and a half a day, even though with Nat Shermans, I'd usually smoke a little less than half a pack per day, 8 or 9 cigarettes. On a day that I stayed up really late, I might smoke a bit more than a half a pack, like 13 or 14 cigarettes.

That's just my personal experience, though I've spoken to others who have related the same. Also, I've spoken with tobacconists who have told me that many of their cigar smokers quit smoking cigarettes altogether after changing from drug-store cigarettes to Nat Sherman's. Nevertheless, this is 100% anecdotal, so don't go out and buy Nat Sherman's thinking that they'll make it easier for you to quit smoking.

Now to the original question: There's no comparison between vaping and smoking Nat Sherman's. If you smoke cigarettes than you're inhaling smoke -- even if it contained zero harmful chemicals, you're still filling your lungs with ash at a faster rate than your lungs are able to recover. And, unfortunately, no matter how good and pure the tobacco, if you're burning it then you're breathing in a host of toxic chemicals created by the combustion itself.

Sherman's (or other additive-free tobacco, if they're interchangeable) may be marginally safer than drug-store tobacco brands, but they also might not be (they could even be worse; there's been very little research on this), and there's no comparison at all with vaping -- not even measurable on the same scale.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

@Thucydides:
Bullette the Nat Sherman's MCD smoker signing in. Only smoked 7-9 per day. But now I vape 24 mg ejuice. Go figure.