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far too may subjective opinions aint there.. one loves the ruyan taste one hates the ruyan taste.. me i loved it.. to me it tasted like genuine cigar..
but i do tend to judge e smoking devices on there ability to reliably produce enough vapour.. i also think the reason nothing comes out with a ruyan cigar is cos nothing goes in.. its a wimp and ruyan built it this way.. to be "discrete"..
put some ruyan liquid in a pipe and plenty comes out on the exhale.. put some ruyan liquid in a 901 and plenty comes out on the exhale.. for it to come out it has to go in..
but for someone who only uses it occasionally or doesnt need lots of nicotine hit the ruyan cigar is okay.. its just simply dosnt produce enough vapour to suit me..
to make a 901 work like new for at least a couple of weeks is easy.. just top the cart up often and keep it wet.. if this dosnt work after a couple of weeks replace it and probably the batteries..
and speaking as someone who has two e pipes on the table in front of him.. two generic e cigars and one ruyan.. plus a couple of new classics.. plus the entire pillbox range all brand new or as good as brand new.. .. a good 901 generic used correctly really does produce more or at least as much smoke as the e pipe or any other e device on the market.... way more than the ruyan cigar..
three things count for me.. over all cost.. reliability.. and vapour production which include easy draw and not having to work hard for it..
trog
ps.. the fact i have all these devices at my disposal and am currently smoking a two week old 901 one must mean something.. assuming i aint some kind of fruit loop.. he he
but i do tend to judge e smoking devices on there ability to reliably produce enough vapour.. i also think the reason nothing comes out with a ruyan cigar is cos nothing goes in.. its a wimp and ruyan built it this way.. to be "discrete"..
put some ruyan liquid in a pipe and plenty comes out on the exhale.. put some ruyan liquid in a 901 and plenty comes out on the exhale.. for it to come out it has to go in..
but for someone who only uses it occasionally or doesnt need lots of nicotine hit the ruyan cigar is okay.. its just simply dosnt produce enough vapour to suit me..
to make a 901 work like new for at least a couple of weeks is easy.. just top the cart up often and keep it wet.. if this dosnt work after a couple of weeks replace it and probably the batteries..
and speaking as someone who has two e pipes on the table in front of him.. two generic e cigars and one ruyan.. plus a couple of new classics.. plus the entire pillbox range all brand new or as good as brand new.. .. a good 901 generic used correctly really does produce more or at least as much smoke as the e pipe or any other e device on the market.... way more than the ruyan cigar..
three things count for me.. over all cost.. reliability.. and vapour production which include easy draw and not having to work hard for it..
trog
ps.. the fact i have all these devices at my disposal and am currently smoking a two week old 901 one must mean something.. assuming i aint some kind of fruit loop.. he he
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emp, just cut open my disposable too see the battery, removed the wire from the positive terminal and afixed 2 triple a's to join the lithium 3 volt. connected the wire back to these and its smokin like a hot pan. filled the cart up with my bottle of slops for the third time so its tasting a bit rove but im satisfied to get that little extra bit of purchase. just hoping it doesnt take my face off if it all goes apollo 13. dont know much about batteries.
exactly the same model battery by the way
exactly the same model battery by the way
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I agree with you trog the 901 is as good as generic e-cigs gets and the vapour is excellent.The blings vapour is adequate its not wimpy well my black bling isnt.
I disagree about if you use the ruyan you dont need much nicotine i was a 20 aday(HIGH)Regal smoker and the bling is actual stopping me smoking cigarettes where the 901 didnt.
the 901 is good for about 10 puffs then it like smoking air !
As i said before when we smoked cigarettes it wasn't all about the smoke it was about the inhale and the kick that's where the 901 falls and the ruyan surpasses imo
How do you keep the three batteries inplace? (yu mentioned you added 2 AA's to the lithium? Or did you mean you replaced the lithium with 2 AA's?)
Can ya take a picture of this? How did you reconnect the positive wire? and hte negative?
but in the same thread someone else says there is no vapour on the exhale.. and u kate said (i think) a pipe gives too much vapour.. and ruyan say "discrete" its why i use the word..
but again all subjective and opposing opinions..
but i have a four day old pipe.. a "bling" with four days use.. a 901 with two weeks use.. all sat in front of me..
i pick them up and test them.. "bling".. very moderate vapour but nice ruyan taste.. pipe average to good vapour with this one.. they vary.. 901.. noticeably more vapour than either of the other two..
i am not talking the odd one.. we have been thru ten pipes.. 30 or so 901s.. but i must admit to only one "bling".. my black tests one got lost in the post..
my two e-cig generics cigars both as as new produce more vapour than the "bling"..
i am breaking my rules here by passing comment on just one device.. mostly its on several.. the things can vary so much from one to another.. comment on one device isnt really valid..
i will assume the "blings" have good quality control and dont vary much from one to the other..
but as i say vapour in large amounts is what i am after.. the bling just dosnt do it.. and to say a 901 goes like air after ten puffs is rubbish.. they dont.. but i do top mine up every 45 minutes or so to keep them going like new.. i also use flue cured 24 mg liquid..
when these things come from the factory they have a wet atomizer prime.. this wet factory prime soon goes away if the carts are not kept wet.. during normal (just drop a new cart in) type use it never ever comes back.. keep the carts topped up and wet and the factory prime never goes away..
a dripping bottle and liquid to drip is %100 essential with any of these devices if top performance is to be maintained..
ps.. as for "just my oppinon" well if after testing with three people a dozen or so examples of the same device dosnt make my oppinion a valid one.. nothing does and we might as well all shut up.. i should at least.. he he
and lets not forget it was me that kinda persuaded kit to try one.. he wasnt happy before and now he seems to be so alls well that ends well.. he he
the "bling" is a nice device but it was never intended to be a powerhouse vapour producer and it isnt.. it would not keep me off real roll-ups.. the 901 manages to..
trog
naz, i took the pic with my laptop camera as i dont have a digital camera at the mo hence the crudeness of the snap. i drew in the wires as they are white and dont show against the white background. hope you get the idea. your cigar has 3 batteries? mine only has one. what is your make and model? this is the loong. 1 battery 3volt.
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no no- mine only has the one- I thought you said you were using three batteries which is why I asked whyat I did- I was tryign to imagine how you got the three batteries inside hte cigar, but now I see they aren't. We gotta figure out a way to hold all that together somehow. Mine was still workign with holding just two AA batteries together too- will try it again when my current disposable gives up on the juice in the cart
I got no vapour on the exhale with the Ruyan juice and am getting plenty of vapour on the exhale with diy juice. It's not conflicting.
The pipe was indeed a bit heavy for me with the vapour but that was from new, I don't know how long that would have lasted or whether I just needed to get used to it.
What sort of opinions are you expecting if not subjective Trog? I don't understand. All we are is a bunch of people messing about with different devices and recipes. We all have different tastes, preferences, judgements, opinions, even language for and about the same things. We can only share our own experiences in the hope that the pool of knowledge will in some way be useful, informative or entertaining. It may be possible to try to draw objective conclusions from our collective experience but it would probably take an academic or clinical study to do that properly.
Personally, I like the bling, it gives a good amount of vapour for me, not wispy. With my own juice it's a pleasant 'smoke'. Of course that's just my opinion having tried just one bling. Trog may have tried one of everything out there but his and his familys experience is hardly a large sample to draw objective conclusions. I'd rather read a hundred conflicting views than one familys experience (with one bling). It's not representative of a broad range of experience.
The pipe was indeed a bit heavy for me with the vapour but that was from new, I don't know how long that would have lasted or whether I just needed to get used to it.
What sort of opinions are you expecting if not subjective Trog? I don't understand. All we are is a bunch of people messing about with different devices and recipes. We all have different tastes, preferences, judgements, opinions, even language for and about the same things. We can only share our own experiences in the hope that the pool of knowledge will in some way be useful, informative or entertaining. It may be possible to try to draw objective conclusions from our collective experience but it would probably take an academic or clinical study to do that properly.
Personally, I like the bling, it gives a good amount of vapour for me, not wispy. With my own juice it's a pleasant 'smoke'. Of course that's just my opinion having tried just one bling. Trog may have tried one of everything out there but his and his familys experience is hardly a large sample to draw objective conclusions. I'd rather read a hundred conflicting views than one familys experience (with one bling). It's not representative of a broad range of experience.
i reckon it will work if i removed the original 3 volt altogether, just didnt want to as its a bit of a spaghetti junction up there. 2 triple A's = 3 volt so why not? not really too bothered at getting it all back in its orignal casing as i figure thats what a bling is for anyway. the cartridge on these bad boys are huge though so it might be an idea and i like the tinfoil cap. should be a standard design.
that hacked piece is being used soley for dripping now. i get mad amounts of vape and im not bothered if it crashes.
naz, are you still experimenting with the sedansa batts on the loong? cause theyre s h 1 t ! i get half an hour out of one. most of the carts are crap too. i opened them all up. they run dry very quick. not a chance of getting a day's use unless you like the firework flavour.
he builds some differently to others. some actually have steel mesh around the atomizing wire. some wires are curled...others not. also the amount of material he uses makes a big difference. some stretch up to the rubber tip, others half way. im still playing with it though, trying to get it to work. my brother likes it. keeps stealing my batts
that hacked piece is being used soley for dripping now. i get mad amounts of vape and im not bothered if it crashes.
naz, are you still experimenting with the sedansa batts on the loong? cause theyre s h 1 t ! i get half an hour out of one. most of the carts are crap too. i opened them all up. they run dry very quick. not a chance of getting a day's use unless you like the firework flavour.
he builds some differently to others. some actually have steel mesh around the atomizing wire. some wires are curled...others not. also the amount of material he uses makes a big difference. some stretch up to the rubber tip, others half way. im still playing with it though, trying to get it to work. my brother likes it. keeps stealing my batts
At the end of the day who gives a c-rap we all like different devices ive been through about 10 Dse901s and they weren't cutting it for me.
i was dripping every 40 mins or so and yeah it was a good smoke for about 10 or 15 puffs then it was like smoking nothing with loads of vapour thats why ended up back on cigarettes.
why would i lie about my 901 experience i love the 901's for the past 4 months thats all me and darcy have been doing vaping and raving about it. so how my view on its performance is utter rubbish is beyond me i think after 4 months of just smoking the 901 i would no it good points and its bad points.the 901 keeps you of rollups trog it didnt work for me.the bling keeps me of cigarettes so were both happy end off .
i think we have to agree to disagree on this one dude !
i was dripping every 40 mins or so and yeah it was a good smoke for about 10 or 15 puffs then it was like smoking nothing with loads of vapour thats why ended up back on cigarettes.
why would i lie about my 901 experience i love the 901's for the past 4 months thats all me and darcy have been doing vaping and raving about it. so how my view on its performance is utter rubbish is beyond me i think after 4 months of just smoking the 901 i would no it good points and its bad points.the 901 keeps you of rollups trog it didnt work for me.the bling keeps me of cigarettes so were both happy end off .
i think we have to agree to disagree on this one dude !
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the writing on the bling is more or less an advertisment on how great ruyan products are to esmoke.
and yes,i guess kits right,its horses for courses with these devices...we all favour different ones for different reasons.
i would say tho,that i think the bling sounds very like my generic ecigar...i dont know if its the actual device per se,or more the ruyan carts that come with it.
unfortunately i couldnt stand the ruyan juice either,so i dont know if theres any point me buying a bling really...the only attraction would be the draw,which sounds easier then my existing cigar.
ive already got a pretty decent ecigar and ruyan carts,and i usually drip it or make my own carts using normal juice,and it gives decent vapour on exhale,and a nice taste...might buy a bling anyway,its cheap and im curious.
so in short,i can see the attraction of 901,pen and cigar,and i use em all...personally,i just still really get a kick out of the 901,and find i use it the most...topped up constantly with a fresh battery,i just love em-i always get throat and nic hit and lots of vapour from them...especially since starting to use totally wicked liquid.
i think its a case of whatever gets you through the night...
it is a shame we cant arrive at some objective scale..
lets put it this way.. none of us are much use to a newbie if all we can manage is a whole bunch of conflicting "oppinons"..
i strive for "objectivity".. praps its my weakness.. i know a roll up works for me.. i know what it does.. i need to know the same about my e smoking.. i find the thought that its all in my imagination totally frightening..
but untill some kind of objective yardstick can be found to measure the vapour producing ability of these things my comments are ended..
if it is all in my imagination.. the best place for it is to stay there.. he he..
i once said before my biggest e smoking nightmare was to get saddled with a load of low nicotine liquid labled as high and slowly go up the wall wondering what my problem is..
time for me to vacate the premises again for a while.. i really cant be doing with all this conflicting whatever rocks your boat opinion stuff..
if some kind of useful conclusion cant be reached i see no point whatsoever in waffling on for the sake of it.. i need answers not more conundrums..
why so many different people all have so may different opinions is a conundrum for me.. one i dont like to be honest.. it frightens me.. he he
trog
lets put it this way.. none of us are much use to a newbie if all we can manage is a whole bunch of conflicting "oppinons"..
i strive for "objectivity".. praps its my weakness.. i know a roll up works for me.. i know what it does.. i need to know the same about my e smoking.. i find the thought that its all in my imagination totally frightening..
but untill some kind of objective yardstick can be found to measure the vapour producing ability of these things my comments are ended..
if it is all in my imagination.. the best place for it is to stay there.. he he..
i once said before my biggest e smoking nightmare was to get saddled with a load of low nicotine liquid labled as high and slowly go up the wall wondering what my problem is..
time for me to vacate the premises again for a while.. i really cant be doing with all this conflicting whatever rocks your boat opinion stuff..
if some kind of useful conclusion cant be reached i see no point whatsoever in waffling on for the sake of it.. i need answers not more conundrums..
why so many different people all have so may different opinions is a conundrum for me.. one i dont like to be honest.. it frightens me.. he he
trog
well trog,we both think the 901 is the best available-i constantly recommend it,and i always have...we've both tried a lot of stuff,and concluded the 901 is our device of choice...i still use others,but 901 is my staple ecig...
i dont personally understand why it doesnt do it for some others when it works so well for me...but what can you do?
thats just the way it is...you know as well as i do-theres never gonna be total agreement on this subject on this forum...
i dont personally understand why it doesnt do it for some others when it works so well for me...but what can you do?
thats just the way it is...you know as well as i do-theres never gonna be total agreement on this subject on this forum...
We all will agree and disagree on what products we will have had personal experience with. That's life.
But perhaps certain products to a few of us are so obvious that one will work better than the other. Example you can't really compare 901 against pen style as the pen always will outperform 901 that's obvious to any fool that as experienced both units. Which I have and many friends of mine have.
But then you can go further with the cigar as your work horse but some of us tend to use that not all of the time because of its size. And then you've got the pipe not everybody will want the pipe it just personal choice.
But it is everybody's personal choice and we all have a right to express our choices and experiences and should not be dominated by a few which disagree with information we write here. Our reviews are supposed to help people decide what choice they wish to make not baffle them.
All I can go on myself when writing about a product is what experiences that I have had as I have tried nearly everything out their and spent a considerable amount of money doing this .when I do buy a new product I normally tend to buy more than one unit so I normally go on comparing more in case of faults.
But perhaps certain products to a few of us are so obvious that one will work better than the other. Example you can't really compare 901 against pen style as the pen always will outperform 901 that's obvious to any fool that as experienced both units. Which I have and many friends of mine have.
But then you can go further with the cigar as your work horse but some of us tend to use that not all of the time because of its size. And then you've got the pipe not everybody will want the pipe it just personal choice.
But it is everybody's personal choice and we all have a right to express our choices and experiences and should not be dominated by a few which disagree with information we write here. Our reviews are supposed to help people decide what choice they wish to make not baffle them.
All I can go on myself when writing about a product is what experiences that I have had as I have tried nearly everything out their and spent a considerable amount of money doing this .when I do buy a new product I normally tend to buy more than one unit so I normally go on comparing more in case of faults.
Thanks Darcy. It's bloody typical isn't it, a decent product ...... on with advertising. I hate it when companies put logos, slogans and advertising on products, I very rarely buy anything defaced with this shameless marketing. If I want to endorse a product I will not do it by flaunting company images and propaganda.
At least it's in Chinese and I can't understand the messages Ruyan have scrawled all over it.
I dont see what the big deal is with you ted i was struggling with my 901 because there was not enough hit for me,i was falling back on cigarettes.
i needed to try a new e-device something stonger and quick!
I went for the bling and i prefer it to the 901 dont get me wrong the 901 is an awesome generic maybe i just need better juice to satisfy me with 901.
but the bling is a harsher smoke which means throat kick which is what i was missing with my 901.
if we can't discuss these things whats the point of this forum you take things to heart mate its your way or the highway in your mind.
and you saying your leaving the forum in my eyes makes me look bad.
Its been me thats allways stood by you in the past because i thought you just had a firey passion
for e-smoking and i liked that but its obviously much more than that to you.
i needed to try a new e-device something stonger and quick!
I went for the bling and i prefer it to the 901 dont get me wrong the 901 is an awesome generic maybe i just need better juice to satisfy me with 901.
but the bling is a harsher smoke which means throat kick which is what i was missing with my 901.
if we can't discuss these things whats the point of this forum you take things to heart mate its your way or the highway in your mind.
and you saying your leaving the forum in my eyes makes me look bad.
Its been me thats allways stood by you in the past because i thought you just had a firey passion
for e-smoking and i liked that but its obviously much more than that to you.
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