Hmm. Start here coolnesscat:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/search.php
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/search.php
Side note one of my batteries is messed up when i conect it to the atomizer it gets it red hot with out ever taking 1 drag what is wrong?
The rise of a smoking alternative will erode a billion dollar tax fund for the goverment.
They SAY they tax cigs so high "because they are baaaad for you"
In reality, Smokers are an easy group to tax the h*ll out of, because we are a group * nobody * will stand up and defend.
For this reason, UNTIL they figure out a way to "regulate" (ie tax) e-cigs, no goverment will support them. They care far more about their taxes than they care about your health.
...I havent heard that about pg. I have USP VG and PG is that the same as food grade? So is pg safer?...
Three interim reports, and three extremely positive reports on e-smoking! The Holy Grail is in sight. This one answers virtually every question, including a lack of danger from second-hand vapor and the emissions from a cartridge not in use. Very thorough.
One major caveat: This applies ONLY to Ruyan products. Those are the only products subjected to the kind of clinical trial that an agency like WHO will consider when it meets in November on our beloved practice. If the government mandates auto safety and Fords pass the test, it doesn't mean Chevys are also approved. Every single e-cig maker and liquid maker must have testing done.
You think E-Cig.com gets a pass? Think again.
This is likely the last report to be issued before the WHO conference and we can only hope it sways that advisory group to proclaim e-smoking worthy of further study as an alternative to cigarette smokers seeking a safer nicotine delivery method. Thanks for finding it, Jigtg!
No smartassery taken, Rez; actually you have good scientific inquiry and a healthy dose of skepticism. If we're pushing for acceptance of these things, we have to take nothing for granted, even pre-existing tests.rez said:I'm not being a smart a**, its just what i'm thinking.
I follow your logic. After all, Marie Curie died of radiation poisoning; even her papers are still so radioactive they have to be kept in lead boxes. Radio ads said "Four out of five doctors smoke Camel cigarettes." As late as 1955, Operation Cue blew up a fake town complete with manniquins with a nuclear bomb, then set up picnic tables right in the middle of the fallout, and invited the press and public to a meal cooked in the irradiated kitchens, just to prove how safe it was. Some goofy stuff back then in the postwar Cold War era.rez said:To me, any testing or reports from 1942...are a little outdated. ...Anything from 1942 is not what I personally want to base my decisions on.
Difference being, they were tested as harmful if inhaled. Not to be simplistic, but just because they do the same thing as PG doesn't mean they are in any way chemically similar.rez said:So Bleach and Lysol may do those same types of things. But i dont want to heat and inhale those.
No offense taken, but I'm as serious as a heart attack. Right now, E-cigs are seen and "marketed" (rather badly) as only a replacement cigarette. That's it's name, it's image, even what it looks like. Any news reference to them at all refers to 'nicotine vapor.' You may not have noticed, but some people out there don't like smokers, or anything that even reminds them of smoking.rez said:...do you mean people who use hand sanitizer should be marketed e-cigs as a way to sanitize their lungs? No disrespect but that cracks me up. ...no offense to you..
Jane Doe - which report are you referring to that contained reference to coumarin?The 3, 4 Coumarin scared me. So, I did research and found that it probably came from the plant, Yellow Steinklee. This plant has been used as a tobacco substitute, even though the coumarin content makes it unsuitable. Here is an interesting article: I cannot post URL's yet, but it can be found in the GERMAN wikipedia. Just translate the page through google if you need to.
Another interesting article is here: harry tom tom paul colon slash slash medicolegal dot tripod dot com slash coumarin dot (harry tom mary).
Also, coumarin was banned as a food additive in the United States in 1978. Coumarin was banned as an adulterant in cigarettes by tobacco companies in 1997, but due to the lack of reporting requirements to the US Department of Health and Human Services it was still being used as a flavoring additive in pipe tobacco. But, according to 21 CFR 172.510, some natural additives containing coumarin are allowed in alcoholic beverages only. This information came from wikipedia, looking under Coumarin.
To defend probability that the FDA may ban e-liquid, isn't there alcohol in the liquid? It's not a beverage, but it could lead to a defense.