Eleaf iStick : part 2

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After using the 40w for a day I think I can live with it. I just have to use my index finger instead of my thumb. It's a change, but probably not too big a deal.

I just did a fresh build and put my istick 40w and 30w at the same wattage. My 30w most definitely is sending more power at the same 6.5 starter watts. I'm barely getting vapor with my 40w, but my 30w I can vape all day at this wattage.

I hope Mr. Busardo does a video soon to confirm this. Perhaps the 40w doesn't use any kind of pulse width modulation, and that's why it's not sending extra power during a step down. That's my suspicion. Will need someone else smarter than me to confirm this.

I need like 8.5 watts to get the same vape I get at 6.5 watts on my 30w istick.
 

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What TC doesn't do: Instantly make the perfect vape, make bad juice taste good, make coils last forever, ability to lure unicorns into the open by the vape aroma.

What TC does do: Makes your vape more consistent regardless of style of vaping.

Read a few posts on ECF by <names withheld to protect the guilty> and chain vape a bunch of hard fast toots...TC will automatically adjust wattage down, keep the vape the same. Read a couple posts by Tibs or Kat and take some long slow MTL hits, TC will adjust the wattage back up for consistently.

You can play around with different airflow settings, or wicking material without burnt or horrible tastes. If there's not enough juice or air, you just get less vapor. TC will support MTL vaping, and seems to fail more for massive cloud chasing.

Less juice being burned does make coils last a bit longer, not forever. With new factory coils for TC becoming available along with simple mods (iStick 40 TC) anyone can enjoy a consistent vape experience.

Do you need one? Absolutely not, a well coiled, wicked, VW setup produces the same vape. Where TC excels is when something is a bit off, it protects you from yourself and badly designed toppers.
 

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What TC doesn't do: Instantly make the perfect vape, make bad juice taste good, make coils last forever, ability to lure unicorns into the open by the vape aroma.

What TC does do: Makes your vape more consistent regardless of style of vaping.

Read a few posts on ECF by <names withheld to protect the guilty> and chain vape a bunch of hard fast toots...TC will automatically adjust wattage down, keep the vape the same. Read a couple posts by Tibs or Kat and take some long slow MTL hits, TC will adjust the wattage back up for consistently.

You can play around with different airflow settings, or wicking material without burnt or horrible tastes. If there's not enough juice or air, you just get less vapor. TC will support MTL vaping, and seems to fail more for massive cloud chasing.

Less juice being burned does make coils last a bit longer, not forever. With new factory coils for TC becoming available along with simple mods (iStick 40 TC) anyone can enjoy a consistent vape experience.

Do you need one? Absolutely not, a well coiled, wicked, VW setup produces the same vape. Where TC excels is when something is a bit off, it protects you from yourself and badly designed toppers.
Excellent read! :thumbs:
Some expect TC to do all things...no, it won't check your car tire pressure.:lol:
 

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Excellent read! :thumbs:
Some expect TC to do all things...no, it won't check your car tire pressure.[emoji38]
Mine does my laundry. Click the power button 7 times, then hold the power up and down buttons while turning 3 times to the left and then invert the device and turn 7 times to the right while holding the device at a 37.5 degree angle at exactly 837 feet above sea level on Tuesday.
 
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Mine does my laundry. Click the power button 7 times, then hold the power up and down buttons while turning 3 times to the left and then invert the device and turn 7 times to the right while holding the device at a 37.5 degree angle at exactly 837 feet above sea level an Tuesday.
Wait...did something wrong, I'm now 20 miles from home, dizzy and my laundry is still in the hamper?!?!?!
:lol:
 

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Howdy clan, I got behind and its been awhile since I posted and took me awhile to read everything I had missed here due to computer and other problems and get all caught up.

I was a bit surprised ecf changed and added the new thread Eleaf iStick : part 2
After I finished reading all the posts I missed since being here in Eleaf iStick part 1

Its nice to see so many nice and familiar faces still here

BTW my 20 and 30s are still working fine, glad I never got a 50 ouch for some, and a bit surprised there is now a new 40 with TC

HOWDY
 

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What TC doesn't do: Instantly make the perfect vape, make bad juice taste good, make coils last forever, ability to lure unicorns into the open by the vape aroma.

What TC does do: Makes your vape more consistent regardless of style of vaping.

Read a few posts on ECF by <names withheld to protect the guilty> and chain vape a bunch of hard fast toots...TC will automatically adjust wattage down, keep the vape the same. Read a couple posts by Tibs or Kat and take some long slow MTL hits, TC will adjust the wattage back up for consistently.

You can play around with different airflow settings, or wicking material without burnt or horrible tastes. If there's not enough juice or air, you just get less vapor. TC will support MTL vaping, and seems to fail more for massive cloud chasing.

Less juice being burned does make coils last a bit longer, not forever. With new factory coils for TC becoming available along with simple mods (iStick 40 TC) anyone can enjoy a consistent vape experience.

Do you need one? Absolutely not, a well coiled, wicked, VW setup produces the same vape. Where TC excels is when something is a bit off, it protects you from yourself and badly designed toppers.

Phil just posted a review--in case you haven't seen it...

 

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Okay so i've read a ton about the istick and i just want a confirmation from you guys if thats ok :)
I'm personally a replaceable battery kind of guy, but i have a friend that needs an upgrade from a joyetech pen. She doesn't want to fiddle with batteries and chargers, so i'm thinking of recommending her the istick 30. She can get it at 24$ from FT or 55.8$ (!!!) from a local vapeshop.
Question is, can i in good faith order the istick 30 from FT and be confident that it will not cause her problems? She is tight with money and i'd hate it if i recommended her something that turns out defective, or god forbid hazardous. Is there some autofire test like with the cloupor?

Cheers!

I've seen vape shops here today on ECF that sold the 30W iSticks for very close to 25.00 (24+ change) and then shipping (your choice).

VapeNW has a 30w iStick for $20 + $5 shipping or free shipping with juice purchase.

I think the other shop was Origin Vapes - check their clearance items for the 30W istick... (on sale cuz the 40W was 'new addition' to their site, as I remember.
 

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Phil just posted a review--in case you haven't seen it...



@Katya I had watched that, and what he talks about while showing the O-scope traces (about the 25:30 mark) is a great explanation of how TC regulates the power to the coil. It just provides enough to maintain whatever temperature you set. And the iStick TC40W doesn't have the burst, 30 W pulse when you first hit the fire button that the evic TC does.
 

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I've seen vape shops here today on ECF that sold the 30W iSticks for very close to 25.00 (24+ change) and then shipping (your choice).

VapeNW has a 30w iStick for $20 + $5 shipping or free shipping with juice purchase.

I think the other shop was Origin Vapes - check their clearance items for the 30W istick... (on sale cuz the 40W was 'new addition' to their site, as I remember.

Was excited when I saw this, but saw that the only one in stock for $19.99 was the pink one :(. Would have taken black, blue, or silver.

@Katya I had watched that, and what he talks about while showing the O-scope traces (about the 25:30 mark) is a great explanation of how TC regulates the power to the coil. It just provides enough to maintain whatever temperature you set. And the iStick TC40W doesn't have the burst, 30 W pulse when you first hit the fire button that the evic TC does.

Thanks. It's late Sunday night, but I'm so excited about this review gotta watch soon.
 
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Was excited when I saw this, but saw that the only one in stock for $19.99 was the pink one :(. Would have taken black, blue, or silver.
Lol. I intentionally bought the pink iStick Mini 10 so I would have one of each color. Pink mini, black 20, silver 30, grey 40, blue 50, stainless 100
 

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Just finished watching the pbusardo video.

Cliff Notes:
  • The iStick 40w does NOT have pulse width modulation (PWM). It's a straight line, but a not completely clean one.
  • It reads resistances a bit high, up to .1 ohms high in some cases. The wattage it produces is slightly underpowered as well. This explains why I needed to turn my wattage higher after I switched from my 30w.
  • Temperature Control is not perfect. Actual temperate was around 317 degrees, when it should have been at 400.
  • The advertised battery life may be grossly overstated. There wasn't a MAH rating on the battery after he opened it, but based on some calculation he did, he thought it came out to around 1800mah, which would appear to be bait and switch IMO.
I could tell right away that the 40w is bigger than the 30w, but pbusardo measured it out to only be 1mm larger in width.

The body is supposedly stainless steel, which would explain why I said it felt like it had better built quality.

He weighed the 30w and 40w, the 40w was only 10 grams heavier.

Check out the video for yourselves. I'm trying to see how much off the wattage is, but his chart is showing watts at like 0.8? I dunno, I don't get it.
 

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Just finished watching the pbusardo video.

Cliff Notes:
  • The iStick 40w does NOT have pulse width modulation (PWM). It's a straight line, but a not completely clean one.
  • It reads resistances a bit high, up to .1 ohms high in some cases. The wattage it produces is slightly underpowered as well. This explains why I needed to turn my wattage higher after I switched from my 30w.
  • Temperature Control is not perfect. Actual temperate was around 317 degrees, when it should have been at 400.
  • The advertised battery life may be grossly overstated. There wasn't a MAH rating on the battery after he opened it, but based on some calculation he did, he thought it came out to around 1800mah, which would appear to be bait and switch IMO.
I could tell right away that the 40w is bigger than the 30w, but pbusardo measured it out to only be 1mm larger in width.

The body is supposedly stainless steel, which would explain why I said it felt like it had better built quality.

He weighed the 30w and 40w, the 40w was only 10 grams heavier.

Check out the video for yourselves. I'm trying to see how much off the wattage is, but his chart is showing watts at like 0.8? I dunno, I don't get it.
You forgot the most important part. Phil gave it a thumbs up!
 

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You forgot the most important part. Phil gave it a thumbs up!

The iStick will always get a thumbs up. The original formula was a good one. Cheap, very small, pretty good battery life with USB charging. The stainless steel threading, and spring loaded 510 pin made the 30w the perfect mod.

I took another look at the battery in the video, tried googling some of the numbers. When I googled "6.85wh," the search results come back with a bunch of 1850mah batteries.

If this is the case, I'm going to be very disappointed. Not sure how they thought they could get away with downgrading the iStick 30w battery, yet listing it as 400mah higher.
 
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