Eleaf iStick "pico"

[trentenmarschel]

Then your resistance reading might be wrong, or the device is faulty.

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This is the second Pico I am on. The first one I had to send back because it was auto firing when I let off the button. It was also very glitchy.

If you doubt your mod, then you should learn how to test it, search on cotton burn test. There is also a water boil test I've never bothered with. I'm sure someone can chime in on that topic.

I've never heard of those test, so I'll have to look into those. I just know it's not getting anywhere near as hot as 530F. I think I should be burning my juice with it that high. I am also going to get some new batteries in a couple weeks to try because I know these batteries are old and not very high amps. So maybe the device knows the battery specs and isn't letting it put that much watts into the coil. But then again If I have a kanthal coil in I can use it above 20w with no issues. I just can't go above 40w.

 

[KenD]

This is the second Pico I am on. The first one I had to send back because it was auto firing when I let off the button. It was also very glitchy.



I've never heard of those test, so I'll have to look into those. I just know it's not getting anywhere near as hot as 530F. I think I should be burning my juice with it that high. I am also going to get some new batteries in a couple weeks to try because I know these batteries are old and not very high amps. So maybe the device knows the battery specs and isn't letting it put that much watts into the coil. But then again If I have a kanthal coil in I can use it above 20w with no issues. I just can't go above 40w.

Well, if it doesn't work correctly there's something wrong. Either a faulty device or user error. That's just the fact of the matter.

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[TrollDragon]

If it ain't wicked properly, it can't get enough juice for good saturation, so it will hit TP much sooner due to the coil being dry...

 

[trentenmarschel]

Well, if it doesn't work correctly there's something wrong. Either a faulty device or user error. That's just the fact of the matter.

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If it ain't wicked properly, it can't get enough juice for good saturation, so it will hit TP much sooner due to the coil being dry...

I'm going to mess with the coil later and try a compressed coil instead of having it spaced so wide on each wrap. Also It might help when I get my new batteries.

 

[KenD]

I'm going to mess with the coil later and try a compressed coil instead of having it spaced so wide on each wrap. Also It might help when I get my new batteries.

With titanium you'll want a spaced coil. A compressed coil (the wraps touching) will be more difficult to get to function properly.

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[trentenmarschel]

With titanium you'll want a spaced coil. A compressed coil (the wraps touching) will be more difficult to get to function properly.

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Thanks I wasnt sure on that. The first video I saw had it spaced. Then there were some that compressed them. Maybe ill just space them less. I have maybe 1.5 mm of space between the wrapps.

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[Fozzy71]

This is the second Pico I am on. The first one I had to send back because it was auto firing when I let off the button. It was also very glitchy.



I've never heard of those test, so I'll have to look into those. I just know it's not getting anywhere near as hot as 530F. I think I should be burning my juice with it that high. I am also going to get some new batteries in a couple weeks to try because I know these batteries are old and not very high amps. So maybe the device knows the battery specs and isn't letting it put that much watts into the coil. But then again If I have a kanthal coil in I can use it above 20w with no issues. I just can't go above 40w.

I run many of my tanks above 530 in TCSS on the pico (and istick200, rx200s) to get the type of warm vape I want. On my SDNA mod I often run as low as 450 and even lower as over 500 can get too warm. It depends for me on the tank, build, mod etc as to how hi/low I have to go. The TCSS mode doesn't seem to be anywhere near as good in the pico (or other mods from the same parent company) as it is in the DNA75.

 

[grandmato5]

I had not used GearBest in a long time. So a month a go I placed a small order. They used PostNL as the shipper. Yesterday I see tracking info, saying "2016-08-22 23:04 Arrived at PostNL – Item not allowed (X-ray) and rejected". GB support just keeps saying, "check with my local post office". I told them I'll give them a week to issue me a refund, then I'll file with PayPal. Doubt I'll ever use Gearbest again.

Your tracking message says your shipment was rejected by PostNL not US Customs. Which means the problem lies with PostNL for one reason or another. Either their own rule of some kind for rejecting OR they're not understanding the new US customs rules for ecig items.

 

[Eskie]

Remember, the mod is not really reading the temperature. It's reading the change in resistance of the wire that occurs as temperature rises. How the mod is calibrated, and whether the correct TCR (or materials curves as in the DNA) is set will affect performance. You also need to strike a balance of sufficient wattage to meet and sustain the temp you want. Just setting it to say 75W (or the max on your mod) and expecting the TC portion to keep everything nice isn't always the best setup either. Neither is too low a wattage that never ramps the coil up high enough to reach temp in the time you have the fire button pressed for. Some mods will allow you to set a preheat "punch" to rapidly get the coil to temp for your vape, and then supply a lower power to sustain.

As for a laser thermometer, it's not going to help or be cost effective. If the vape is "too cool", it's too cool. If "too hot", then too hot. You'll know your own "just right" when you hit it. All the laser thermometer will do is tell you precisely what the temp is at the just right spot, but won't make it any easier to reach.

 

[Mactavish]

Your tracking message says your shipment was rejected by PostNL not US Customs. Which means the problem lies with PostNL for one reason or another. Either their own rule of some kind for rejecting OR they're not understanding the new US customs rules for ecig items.

I know.

 

[Ed_C]

There are of course other factors to consider when discussing HEAT. As of this moment, I have two identical mods, running two DIFFERENT tanks and coils. Both mods are in TC mode, both set to 470f, at 35 watts. Both attys show .5 ohm coil resistance. The only differences are one tank is a Cubis Pro with SS316 coil, the other is a Melo 3 Mini with a titanium coil. The Melo coil heats up the whole mod, while the Cubis does not. There are many design differences between tanks that can influence the overall HEAT you may feel when using them, besides the volts, watts, ohms, etc.

I had a question about the Melo 3 in TC with the Ti coil. I just put in one of the TC Ti coils for the first time and have noticed quite a bit more "snap, crackle, pop" as compared with the non-TC 0.5 coil that came with it and less flavor. Still trying to dial in the wattage/temp and atm I'm at 40W and 460F and I'm not getting much vapor yet. There's a very slight burned taste. I may have not soaked the cotton enough when I first installed it and I re-soaked it after I took a few hits. Anyway, my main question was about the popping. Anyone find that the TC Ti coils are more prone to popping?

 

[TrollDragon]

I had a question about the Melo 3 in TC with the Ti coil. I just put in one of the TC Ti coils for the first time and have noticed quite a bit more "snap, crackle, pop" as compared with the non-TC 0.5 coil that came with it and less flavor. Still trying to dial in the wattage/temp and atm I'm at 40W and 460F and I'm not getting much vapor yet. There's a very slight burned taste. I may have not soaked the cotton enough when I first installed it and I re-soaked it after I took a few hits. Anyway, my main question was about the popping. Anyone find that the TC Ti coils are more prone to popping?

Spaced coils pop and compressed ones don't. The Ti coil would be spaced and depending on the spacing will pop more or less than other coils.

 

[TrollDragon]

Thanks I wasnt sure on that. The first video I saw had it spaced. Then there were some that compressed them. Maybe ill just space them less. I have maybe 1.5 mm of space between the wrapps.

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What is the Ti build you have in the Merlin?
Wire gauge and coil diameter, tell me you are NOT still using Silica as a wick. That would have a lot to do with the poor vape quality...

 

[trentenmarschel]

What is the Ti build you have in the Merlin?
Wire gauge and coil diameter, tell me you are NOT still using Silica as a wick. That would have a lot to do with the poor vape quality...

Lol silica is still my wick. I have 2 3mm strands in there. Its 28gauge wire. For the record, I've never had an issue with wicking. At first i flooded it with too much silica. When i had the notch coil in there i had 3 strands of silica and never any problems.

My best guess is either too spaced and/or batteries suck.

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[TrollDragon]

Lol silica is still my wick. I have 2 3mm strands in there. Its 28gauge wire. For the record, I've never had an issue with wicking. At first i flooded it with too much silica. When i had the notch coil in there i had 3 strands of silica and never any problems.

My best guess is either too spaced and/or batteries suck.

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Well then good luck with the spacing and see if it fixes your problem.

 

[trentenmarschel]

Well then good luck with the spacing and see if it fixes your problem.

I really don't think it's the silica. Here are a few pictures I just took.

Also here are the batteries I am currently using. I posted before but here they are again.
Note: I only use the 2000mAh ones I have 2 of them. I don't use the 1600mAh.

But ever since I put this titanium coil on it, It has sucked down juice faster than any mod/coil/build combo I've ever used. Like it eats juice really really fast. I have almost used 30ml of juice in the last week I put this coil in. I think I might try to save up for one of the DNA75. I know there are some other settings that I could mess with for the TCR settings, but I would have to educate myself on that because I don't have a clue when it comes to those settings. When I built the coil, I let it set for 5 minutes before I locked the resistance in.

Maybe I can stick it in the freezer and then try to lock the Ω again. Lol Jk.

 

[sawlight]

Those batteries are rated 10 amps continuous and 18 amp burst. I'd suggest you get a better set of batteries, I think the board is sensing the limits of the batteries and holding you back. But that's just my opinion.

 

[ddirtyvapes]

Yes, PLEASE get a better battery to use!! Really, besides a small subset of vapers who only use low wattage and know exactly what they're doing, anyone planning on using the full features of a single-battery, 75W, TC-capable mod should be using a battery with at least 20A continuous discharge, even a tad more if you're willing to sacrifice some runtime (but 20A should basically be sufficient).

Your 10A battery is probably a big part of the heat issues, too.

Although just so everyone knows, during PBusardo's torture testing, he did find that the mod has an error reading/shuts off when the internal temperature gets too high.

Typically, I use green Samsung 25Rs with my Pico. I also use VTC4s from IMRBatteries, but I would hate to suggest those and have someone end up with counterfeits. Samsung 25Rs are good batteries.

Lastly, anyone in the market for a new tank and wanting one for the Pico specifically, I'm absolutely loving the Lemo 3. I am so impressed. It definitely has some kind of weird quirks about it but BOY does it perform. I'll take the quirks. The airflow might be a bit much for some but yeah, really nice tank. It's also great that it takes the same coils as the Melo, not to mention has a really solid RTA deck.

 

[Mactavish]

Time for your battery homework, from our own MOOCH:

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[trentenmarschel]

Time for your battery homework, from our own MOOCH:

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I plan to get one of the vtc4 i have them bookmarked.

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