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jafmf95

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How so?
(and BTW in some places $35 == 3 packs of smokes)

In both cases is $35.00 in the garbage.

For some it is a perfectly valid analogy. Some not. I would say it would depend on your primary reasons for quitting smoking. If you quit primarily for budgetary reasons, then throwing money away on this because that's what you did with smokes would not really be a good justification. But if, like me, you quit primarily because you wanted to stop smelling like a walking ashtray and hacking up yuckiness in the morning, then it's perfectly fine reasoning.

It's not reasoning I would use - since I expect more from something that really shouldn't be a throw away item. But I certainly wouldn't lay a blanket criticism on it.
 
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Just like were seeing MVP2S for $39 at 101 vape , well see these for $19.99 .....even if they last 6 months were only in for 40$ and no batteries or chargers to maintain( I'd rather not disclose my number of 18650s and chargers :)).....my 2¢ .....kind of tired of loading and unloading batteries
That's what I love about the Eroll. I don't have to take anything apart.
 

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I understand well the manufacturing process, from initial concept to final sale. If the general vaping community continues to set its expectations so low, our only choice for reasonable mods will be $150+. Just because I can't afford or can't justify a $50-80k Mercedes doesn't mean I don't expect my $25k new Hyundai to be engineered reasonably well and do what the manufacturer says it will do within my driving style. With the Mercedes, we simply pay more for higher performance, better quality materials, better craftsmanship, fancier bells & whistles and prestige of ownership.

I consider the iStick a Hyundai of APVs. I don't need or want a Provari, Volcano or Evolv-based device. But the iStick is currently a Hyundai from 1988 before they got their act together. Did they run? Usually. Were they good automobiles? Not particularly. If consumers had continued to settle for the 1988 Hyundai, we wouldn't have the ones we have today. I'm suggesting that we need to raise our expectations for base quality of APVs. It won't noticeably raise the cost of ownership. But we will be a happier bunch of vapers for doing so.

I guess standing on principal makes me a wacky, annoying outcast today... Sad.

Just my :2c:

The reason we have the plethora of devices we have today and have them so fast is....

1) precisely because the the vaping community has set their standards so high.
2) no red tape in getting a device to market

Cutting up tea bags to shove in 3 piece cigalikes ultimately wasn't satisfying.

Reviews here and on Youtube influencing the manufacturer's to evolve these devices is exactly why we now have the option of a $35.00, 20 W, 2200mAH, VV/VW device--which 12 months ago was an immediate $70+ dollar buy-in.

It's unfortunate that you feel that there is not a $35 dollar value here.

Secondly, the idea that "accepting" the IStick will somehow will lead to only $150+ just doesn't make sense--because there are currently so many right that are available that exceed the specs of the iStick that are well under that price tag. Not only that for every $100 + authentic device on the market there are several if not dozens of clones.

So maybe you can just wait until the $15 iStick Version X clone comes to market.
At the pace we're going that should be in 6 months or less.
 

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I think we should all take a deep breath, wait for Phil's review, then point fingers later. The only thing we know so far with all this speculation, is that it hits hotter for some than others, and just like golf, you either hate it or love it. I like what it does for me, and I have a third one on the way.

Happy vaping!!


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I couldn't care less about Busardo's review. If my iStick, once it finally gets here, does rough Vavg at lower voltage/wattage settings as it appears it does I'll just use a topper in a compatible resistance range. For me the best review is my own as a user. I'm mainly interested in the form factor and battery capacity, not a near perfect pwm output. I don't need a video reviewer to tell me how good/bad something is. My own user experience will tell me that.

If it were a device that cost $300 then I might pay more attention to reviews before pulling the trigger. As the iStick is comparatively dirt cheap it will fill a niche despite what 'flaws' are pointed out. There are more than a few posters in this thread who love their iSticks. I think I'll be one of them.
 

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So I really like the form factor of the istick. But not sure I'm happy with the vape :( Kanger Aero Mega tank 1.8 ohm on Vapor Shark rDNA at 10 Watts is my all day vape. Bat lasts forever. I take the exact tank off my Shark, put it on the istick at 10 watts, at its stupid HOT. put the istick down to about 8 watts and its a little better, but still no where as good as Shark at 10 watts. Is it the Kanger? Or is it the istick? Right now I have my Magma RDA on the istick vaping 1.5 single coil at 8.3 watts. It's quite good at this watt. Any advice from you all will be appreciated.
 

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Hmmm...................

Can a person state his/her personal opinions without trying to affect those of others?

Trust me. A favorite quote of mine is: "Run. Run now. Run far. Run fast." If I didn't think people should buy the iStick, I would have bluntly shared that.
 

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Well since everyone is performing test on the output I decided to do a test nobody has performed yet. The drop test. I had my istick in the front pouch of my hooded sweatshirt this morning and I still had to put on my deodorant. Left pit 1st. As I was doing this I'm thinking I sure hope my istick doesn't fall out. Moved on to right pit. Boom yup there she goes. Full size asprie nautilus with it. Looked down and the base of the asprie came off and the connector with bottom portion of tank was still screwed into the istick. I'm thinking this can't be good.
Examined istick no marks. Unscrewed asprie and looked at tank lying on floor. Not broken, hmm. Popped the base with threads back on to the air flow portion of tank. Screwed back on istick and vaped on. No issues what so ever.
So it is safe to say an istick can fall at least 2 1/2 feet onto a linoleum floor with a top heavy tank and probably survive [emoji33] .
No need for anybody else to try and duplicate my results.
 

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The reason we have the plethora of devices we have today and have them so fast is....

1) precisely because the the vaping community has set their standards so high.
2) no red tape in getting a device to market

Cutting up tea bags to shove in 3 piece cigalikes ultimately wasn't satisfying.

Reviews here and on Youtube influencing the manufacturer's to evolve these devices is exactly why we now have the option of a $35.00, 20 W, 2200mAH, VV/VW device--which 12 months ago was an immediate $70+ dollar buy-in.

It's unfortunate that you feel that there is not a $35 dollar value here.

Secondly, the idea that "accepting" the IStick will somehow will lead to only $150+ just doesn't make sense--because there are currently so many right that are available that exceed the specs of the iStick that are well under that price tag. Not only that for every $100 + authentic device on the market there are several if not dozens of clones.

So maybe you can just wait until the $15 iStick Version X clone comes to market.
At the pace we're going that should be in 6 months or less.

I've never had a problem with the $35 price of the iStick. If my critics had read my posts, I laud Eleaf for bringing this device to market at this price. I have only ever questioned the execution of their electronics and choice of 510 connection. The rest is personal preference.
 

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So I really like the form factor of the istick. But not sure I'm happy with the vape :( Kanger Aero Mega tank 1.8 ohm on Vapor Shark rDNA at 10 Watts is my all day vape. Bat lasts forever. I take the exact tank off my Shark, put it on the istick at 10 watts, at its stupid HOT. put the istick down to about 8 watts and its a little better, but still no where as good as Shark at 10 watts. Is it the Kanger? Or is it the istick? Right now I have my Magma RDA on the istick vaping 1.5 single coil at 8.3 watts. It's quite good at this watt. Any advice from you all will be appreciated.

Ladies and gentlemen, my point exactly...

Get some 2+ ohm coils and the Aero will vape great on both devices.
 

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An easy way (for me) to prime a carto:

Insert a new carto into your tank and fill the tank using whatever method you prefer and then pop the tank into a ziplock, leaving one edge open. Blow into the baggie like you were inflating a balloon and then seal it completely.

Squeeze the baggie repeatedly being careful not to pop the seal. The changes in air pressure will force juice to saturate your carto.

Keep doing it until you either don't see any more bubbles or the polyfill looks wet or a drop or 2 comes out the 510 connector..

Simply remove the tank, top it off and you are ready to go!


You otta' also consider using a refilling tool (when just refilling the tank). It makes refilling the tank easy, keeps joose out of your carto (so as not to flood it) and protects your O-rings.

Here's a demonstration of the "Slap Yo Mama":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOhhasydESQ

However you can find refilling tools much cheaper at many sites (than the Slap Yo Mama)...for example:

https://www.ibtanked.com/accessories/tool/black-anodized-refilling-drip-tip-detail

Geez it's not rocket science. I drip 30 - 40 drops of liqud into a fresh carto, insert in tank, fill the tank, maybe take a few primer puffs and go.
 

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ooooo forgot I had these.
 

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Ford, Chevrolet, Jaguar, Rolls Royce. They all have 4 wheels, and it's personal preference and pocket depth as to which you buy. We're talking about a $40 APV here which has for the vast majority of us owners, pleased us quite nicely. Now if there are some issues with the device that Eleaf has failed to disclose, I'd hope they would clear the air at some point. And if they sent a unit to PBUSARDO to review, I personally don't think they have much to hide. Think about how many lives have been lost over known issues in the automobile industry folks. Yet it doesn't keep us from continuing to buy cars. I've said it before here and I'll say it again. This iStick works well for what it is and it keeps me from smoking, not to mention I like it better than anything I have used to date. My Toyota had a sticker in the window that said it got 26 miles per gallon. I found it really only gets 23. SO WHAT!!


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Simple. You still drive your Toyota, but for some people, it not hitting 3v as advertised means they cannot use it with their gear.
 

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I ordered mine Monday and it's in my hand. It's been in my hand all afternoon and I can't seem to put it down, my MVP2 seems so clunky now!
If it doesn't have any unforeseen issues I will surely be buying several more and my MVP will be purely backup. As of right now, and I know it's way early for me to say this, I am in the love it category. Hits like a champ and so far, only a few hours in, no issues whatsoever. Time will tell...if issues do arise, oh well, it won't break the bank after all.

My only super minor beef is that it's a slippery little sucker! Hopefully the wrap I ordered will take care of that. Fits very nicely in my smaller than average hand though, unlike the MVP. :thumbs:
 
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