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Katya

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Hi Karya... just saying...

'Insisted' connotes 'demanded forcefully' etc. I don't think joyetech 'responded' at all, let alone insisting, at the time. IOW, I don't think there's a 'pattern' here.

But they did insist. :D They lied through their teeth--despite the evidence I presented. Mik_Janty himself told me the following in 2012:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ssic-new-product-back-basics.html#post5058880

"Like all the eGos".. ? Janty eGo is a true 3.7 volt device - the copies might not be.
:lol:

And I'm not suggesting a pattern--didn't mean to, anyway. But eGos were always marketed as 3.7v devices, by Joyetech and Janty and every vendor who carried their batteries, and it led to a lot of confusion among us poor vapers who couldn't understand why our 2Ω cartos worked just fine on eGos but burned on KR808 batteries. :D

Enter Scottbee. Mystery solved.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ews/85392-tornado-week-2-a-3.html#post1374015 ;)

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Hmmm... Looks like I'm in the market for an Aspire BVC tank. The Nautiluses are the only ones with AFC, correct?

Yes, but...there are several tanks that take BVCs that are not from Aspire that have airflow or can be adapted to have airflow. The Silo from Beyond Vape has airflow (and according to the reviewers it is better than the AFC on the Nautilus tanks), you can get an AnyVape Davide because they will take bvc coils and then add an Aerotank afc to the base. The aero bases (depending on what style you want run anywhere from 4.99-8.50). I'm sure that there are probably more tanks that accepts BVC coils but those are the ones I know about.

Also, the Davide's will also accept both single coil and dual coil kanger heads. If you find that you don't like the BVCs for some reason (some people don't), you can switch coils types by just removing a single link from the Davide. So you would have an entirely different "system" without buying a new tank.
 

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Thespis ....

Well, I have not read every post in this very long thread ... All I am saying is that any variable volt / watt battery should be able to not only increase voltage above what it's internal battery is charged at, but also decrease voltage too, if needed.
I probably would never have responded to your post if you hadn't had this attitude.
"You need to not concern yourself so much as to what kind of wrap you want to install on your Eleaf iStick .... but worry more about whether or not this regulated mod will even be able to fulfill your requirements for power."
You don't want to discuss the merits of the device, you want to start an argument. The guy posted about a wrap, and you just beat the dead horse some more. I understand you don't care for the Istick. I understand you want a device that does certain things. It might just be too much to ask... in the Istick thread.
 

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True, but they state so clearly on their specs sheet. So people who buy them know (or, at least should know) what to expect from the device they are buying.

http://www.evolvapor.com/datasheet/dna30.pdf


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Specs are a Funny Thing sometimes.

From the DNA30 spec sheet Evolv says that their board has a Minimum Voltage Output of 4.0 Volts. And the Maximum Atomizer Ohms is 3.0 Ohms.

A Little quick Math tells me that an DNA30D Should be able to Output at 5.333 Watts with a 3.0 Ohm Atomizer. But it Doesn't.

So then I think, OK... It can't Output Less Voltage than the Battery Input. So does the 4.0 Voltage Output occur when the Battery input is Less than say 3.8 Volts? But that Doesn't seem to Happen Either.

So something Doesn't Jive.
 

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You know what? The more I use my stick, the less I like it. They have some issues to work out. I like to vape at a lower voltage. At 3v, it spits like a snake. When it get's down to about 1/2 charge, it smooths out. Also seems to be maintaining a charge less over time. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to love about it. The size is awesome, battery life is pretty decent. Overall though, my MVP2 is a more consistent vape with a longer battery life. It will be interesting to see what improvements the next istick and MVP versions end up with.
 

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Hmm, what is the actual output of my iStick? Let's see! Using my digital multi meter reading across a 2.4 ohm coil on my fully charged iStick set to 3 volts... Wait for it - Wait for it! It is exactly 3 volts! How about a 1 ohm coil? Darn it, now its only 2.98 volts. You might want to get your facts straight before you start bashing a product Flt Simulator. :glare: Course I had my meter set to leaf volts! :D
 
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Hmm, what is the actual output of my iStick? Let's see! Using my digital multi meter reading across a 2.4 ohm coil on my fully charged iStick set to 3 volts... Wait for it - Wait for it! It is exactly 3 volts! How about a 1 ohm coil? Darn it, now its only 2.98 volts. :D You might want to get your facts straight before you start bashing a product Flt Simulator. :glare:

This has been hashed before. The 3v the Istick is putting out is in Mean (Vavg) and not RMS as everyone was expecting. PBusardo showed this in his video. So, again, Eleaf wasn't lying about the output.
 

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But they did insist. :D They lied through their teeth--despite the evidence I presented. Mik_Janty himself told me the following in 2012:

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Yeah, we didn't know the resultant under load voltage until Scott did his magic :) I contributed a few 'devices' for that btw.... :D
 
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Hmm, what is the actual output of my iStick? Let's see! Using my digital multi meter reading across a 2.4 ohm coil on my fully charged iStick set to 3 volts... Wait for it - Wait for it! It is exactly 3 volts! How about a 1 ohm coil? Darn it, now its only 2.98 volts. You might want to get your facts straight before you start bashing a product Flt Simulator. :glare: Course I had my meter set to leaf volts! :D

No offense... I don't really care what your VOM says. My experience with the device is all I need to know. I'm not bashing the istick, I'm just not thrilled with it.
 

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Mr. Simulator -- Please just take the time to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W1G7p_fCJw

It's very informative--and ended the debate on the "over powered" aspect of the iStick.

The iStick does what it does very well, even showing accurate ranges available for any given ohms atty. It's simply that it's not using the same methods we've become used to on devices. Therefore it appears to be running too hot, even at lowest settings for some vapers.
 

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Yes, but...there are several tanks that take BVCs that are not from Aspire that have airflow or can be adapted to have airflow. The Silo from Beyond Vape has airflow (and according to the reviewers it is better than the AFC on the Nautilus tanks), you can get an AnyVape Davide because they will take bvc coils and then add an Aerotank afc to the base. The aero bases (depending on what style you want run anywhere from 4.99-8.50). I'm sure that there are probably more tanks that accepts BVC coils but those are the ones I know about.

Also, the Davide's will also accept both single coil and dual coil kanger heads. If you find that you don't like the BVCs for some reason (some people don't), you can switch coils types by just removing a single link from the Davide. So you would have an entirely different "system" without buying a new tank.

Thanks, pokemom! I have 2 Protank2 w/AFC bases. I was thinking about getting a Davide adapter and some BVCs to experiment with. The AnyVape Peakomizer also looks nice as it takes most Kanger and Aspire heads and costs $30... Maybe I'll just stick with the RTAs and my PT2s with ASpire adapters until more options become available.

Thanks again!
 

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Here are the two newest members in my vaping collection.

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I was expecting a little cheapness here and there with the iSticks but I don't really see any issues. ...so far. I was especially surprised with the weight and feel of the devices. I expected them to feel a little on the light and flimsy side. Boy was I wrong. They feel great.

I usually rock Kayfuns but my newly rebuilt BVC ProTanks (Thanks BSD :thumbs:) killed them dead. I err on the side of flavor over vapor production and these builds (30g Kanthal, 10 wraps, Rayon, 1.8 Ohms) really are providing the best of both worlds. 1.8 Ohms is giving me enough room to hunt for a power sweet-spot whith the builds. The way they hit and the snapping and crackling they produce while firing remind me of pre-gate Boge cartos. For me, the iStick and ProTank combo is a near perfect setup.
 
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