Eleaf Istick

[JeremyR]

Im measuring by looking at screen counter.
On 20w istick using a dripper at 1.30hm it fires at .1sec on any wattage up to 20 watts
On 30w and 50w istick using a dripper at 1.30hm it fires at .1sec on wattages up to around 14 watts
After that around 15 watts higher it fires around .2-.3 secs
Same thing for subtank mini at .5 ohm on 30w and 50w istick
I'm listening to coil as soon as hear any slight sound.
There is def a slight delay compared to the original istick 20w and newer 30w and 50w isticks after about 15 watts power setting.

Are you sure the coils are exactly the same. Same gauge same amount of wire? Ohms doesn't matter as much for heat up as wire mass does. Two coils having different gauges or a single to a dual at the same ohms will heat differently.

32g say 8 wraps heats instantly at 15w, dual 32 & single 28g slower, it would take 30w to heat dual 32 & 28 as fast as the single 32 at 15w. A 26g is even slower/ more power needed, probably about 45 to get instant heat up.. If you already sorted that, apologize.

 

[pokemom]

Well some good news for advocacy in my neck of the woods!
Attempt to regulate public e-cigarette use in Boca goes up in smoke
http://......./1GrY9YH

 

[tearose50]

I know they have a new tank coming out called the GS AIR MS don't know if that's news or not

gs-air-ms-atomizer

I found these too -- but not enough data at the time. Now that I look at the video and see it on a 30 Watt I'm thinking the M series could be just now coming out? Hope so.

Size would be my first guess!

and weight, imho.

 

[AgentZen]

Ok guys, thank you for the quick answer. I have more dumb questions if someone would care to read them over and tell me what they think. If not, thats ok, I will keep reading and learning.

I typically run my mech mod around .4ohms. The way I build sometimes, it tends to take a second or three to fully heat up at first, and even then, over the course of a long vape or a series of chain vapes, I can tell it is getting hotter and hotter. A regulated mod solves this problem right? I can pump more volts and therefor get the coils heating up faster, and the chip will work to keep the power at the same level. Is that right?

Why does it seem like every one and their momma uses tanks on regulated mods? Is there any reason to not run an RDA on a regulated mod?

I notice I usually have my setup around 45ish watts. I've never enjoyed vaping at 10-15 watts when I've tried it, and I can't say I fully remember what a 30watt vape was like, so considering this I should probably spring for the iStick 50w over the 30, right?

Do those who buy the iSticks consider it a bit of a cheat that the batteries are pre-installed and kinda un-replacable, or does that kinda just go with the cheap price? Is it worth it to spend $40-$50 bucks on an iStick if I could spend another 30 dollars and buy something like a sx zero 50w clone or hell even a vaporshark dna 30?

As far as quality and all I remember reading some reviews that felt the iStick felt a bit cheap and janky, how do you guys feel about their newer offerings in terms of build quality?

Would love to hear any opinions about this stuff.

Oh and, what is the norm as far as testing stuff out in B&M stores. I know i've tried out juices but would a B&M typically let a customer try out something like an iStick before buying?

 

[Canno]

Go back to page 1179 and watch PBusardo's review. He covers all that quite well.

Edit. He did not mention RDAs, I don't think, but I don't see any problem with using them.

 

[AgentZen]

I did watch it!

 

[aznnp77]

pbusardo istick 50w review.



Oh I got scooped. Well, I think it's worth posting twice anyways.

Yes, it has pulse width modulation. But it's different than the 20w istick.

It's tuned for RMS, not mean. As I suspected, it fires .1-.2 volts LOW.

 

[Canno]

I did watch it!

Ok, my apologies!

 

[tearose50]

There is no reason I know of that would prohibit the use of an RDA on a regulated mod. I do so to test flavors.

Tanks are popular, whether they be a sub tank, or other mouth to lung vaper style types, because there is a ready liquid supply which is convenient. Plus, some of us like having pre-made coils for convenience. Ever heard of "Don't drip and drive." ?

There is lots of data on the differences between using a Mech or a Regulated device besides the overall safety factors that regulation provides. I'm hoping someone can get you a good link with an educated discussion. I happened upon this blog recently and found this person's views interesting and enlightening:

E-Cigarette Forum - rusirius - Blogs

I'm far from an expert on all that's available these days, but I happen to like vv/vw ergonomic devices with long battery life. So, the Sticks have been nice addition to my gear. I also like that they are lighter in weight than many other choices.

 

[AgentZen]

Thank you so much for the replies guys. That was helpful tearose, I am checking out the blog now.

 

[ruet]

Ok guys, thank you for the quick answer. I have more dumb questions if someone would care to read them over and tell me what they think. If not, thats ok, I will keep reading and learning.

I typically run my mech mod around .4ohms. The way I build sometimes, it tends to take a second or three to fully heat up at first, and even then, over the course of a long vape or a series of chain vapes, I can tell it is getting hotter and hotter. A regulated mod solves this problem right? I can pump more volts and therefor get the coils heating up faster, and the chip will work to keep the power at the same level. Is that right?

I'll try to help as best I can but YMMV:

Yes, a regulated mod is designed to give you the power you request until the battery is drained to it's lowest serviceable charge level. As far as heat-up time goes; coil resistance is only one variable in an equation. Other variables include wire gauge and number of coils being driven or the density and surface area of your coils. As far as heat buildup in your topper itself? Design issue?

Why does it seem like every one and their momma uses tanks on regulated mods? Is there any reason to not run an RDA on a regulated mod?

Grab and go capability and ease of use. It's a tad difficult and cumbersome to drip while out-and-about. Not to mention dangerous to drip & drive. When I'm home I run RDAs on my 20s and 30s without issue.

I notice I usually have my setup around 45ish watts. I've never enjoyed vaping at 10-15 watts when I've tried it, and I can't say I fully remember what a 30watt vape was like, so considering this I should probably spring for the iStick 50w over the 30, right?

If you vape a 45 watts then yes; a 50w iStick is what you want to go with. It's all about what you prefer. I'm satisfied with 12-15 watts when I use a tank and 15-25 when I'm using my RDAs. Then again I vape at high nic levels so...

Do those who buy the iSticks consider it a bit of a cheat that the batteries are pre-installed and kinda un-replacable, or does that kinda just go with the cheap price? Is it worth it to spend $40-$50 bucks on an iStick if I could spend another 30 dollars and buy something like a sx zero 50w clone or hell even a vaporshark dna 30?

The iSticks use 18650s so I don't see an issue here. Vaporsharks use built-in batteries too. As far as spending extra? If you can get a new, authentic, VS30 for $64.00 then why are you even here? sx zero clone? Are they available to purchase anywhere? You can get an iStick by the weekend. Don't forget to factor the cost of quality batteries and a charger if your looking to go that route.

As far as quality and all I remember reading some reviews that felt the iStick felt a bit cheap and janky, how do you guys feel about their newer offerings in terms of build quality?

It's all subjective. IMO the build quality far surpasses what I would normally expect, in vaping hardware, at this price point. I've had devices that looked and felt great that were sub-par performers (HANA clone) and some that fell apart but vaped like a steam locomotive until they did(VV Gripper).

Would love to hear any opinions about this stuff.

Oh and, what is the norm as far as testing stuff out in B&M stores. I know i've tried out juices but would a B&M typically let a customer try out something like an iStick before buying?

If they aren't confident enough to allow you to try out their product, take your business elsewhere.

Hope that helped!

 

[AgentZen]

ruet thank you so much man. Vaporshark dropped the price of the dna 30 to $69.99. And there is a website with sx zero 50w clones for about 80bucks shipped from within the USA, http://focalecig.com/Product/SX-Zero-Modz-50W-clonePre-Order--14205. I am trying to weigh all my options here so these are just the things that are going through my mind. Thank you so much for taking the time.

And when I said I could feel it getting hotter I was talking about the vapor and the coils. The flavor profile is different from the 2nd vape compared to the 5th vape if I am chain vaping, if that makes sense. Also I have 4 samsung 25rs and an intellicharger so maybe it would be in my best interest to get something that has a replaceable battery. Of course if it needs two I'll need to get a new pair.

 

[Canno]

I think that blog, if read and understood by more people, could make vaping a much more pleasant experience for a lot of us. Thanks so much for showing me that.

EDIT: I don't think I said that in the best way that I could have. That is really some good information.

 

[Juokorow]

Got an incredible deal, Eleaf Istick 50w + youde goblin 1.2 + few feet of 28g kanthol for $70.12 with free 2-3 day shipping.

istick 50 is $42.50 free shipping as well, shoot me a pm if you want to know where.

Is is it against forum rules to publicly share with other members the source of a great deal?

 

[RedheadedBStarD]

There is no reason I know of that would prohibit the use of an RDA on a regulated mod. I do so to test flavors.

Tanks are popular, whether they be a sub tank, or other mouth to lung vaper style types, because there is a ready liquid supply which is convenient. Plus, some of us like having pre-made coils for convenience. Ever heard of "Don't drip and drive." ?

There is lots of data on the differences between using a Mech or a Regulated device besides the overall safety factors that regulation provides. I'm hoping someone can get you a good link with an educated discussion. I happened upon this blog recently and found this person's views interesting and enlightening:

E-Cigarette Forum - rusirius - Blogs

I'm far from an expert on all that's available these days, but I happen to like vv/vw ergonomic devices with long battery life. So, the Sticks have been nice addition to my gear. I also like that they are lighter in weight than many other choices.

I also really liked the blog.

 

[ruet]

ruet thank you so much man. Vaporshark dropped the price of the dna 30 to $69.99. And there is a website with sx zero 50w clones for about 80bucks shipped from within the USA, $82.58-$82.99 SX Zero Modz 50W clone (Pre-Order). I am trying to weigh all my options here so these are just the things that are going through my mind. Thank you so much for taking the time.

And when I said I could feel it getting hotter I was talking about the vapor and the coils. The flavor profile is different from the 2nd vape compared to the 5th vape if I am chain vaping, if that makes sense. Also I have 4 samsung 25rs and an intellicharger so maybe it would be in my best interest to get something that has a replaceable battery. Of course if it needs two I'll need to get a new pair.

Glad I could help. If it was an rDNA I might jump on it for $70. However, with an iStick 30 you get almost twice the battery capacity and regulation below 3.7 volts, all the way down to 2 volts. All at an almost identical form-factor and half the cost. An authentic DNA is tempting though. Also keep in mind that a VS30 won't even fire your .4 ohm coil(s) I can''t speak to the SX clone at all. Looks like a pre-order to me but the expected ship date has passed. Also, I'm (I hope) done mucking about with batteries and chargers. I'm way on the KISS train at this point in my vaping journey.

 

[Bikenstein]

I like the placement of the chargin port on the 50 either way I hold it in either hand. Perfect and able to stand it up instead of layin it flat while usin the pass-thru which probably won't be often. I got 2 for less than the price of an sx zero clone.

 

[tearose50]

Is is it against forum rules to publicly share with other members the source of a great deal?

Usually not. There are exceptions, though.

 

[ruet]

I like the placement of the chargin port on the 50 either way I hold it in either hand. Perfect and able to stand it up instead of layin it flat while usin the pass-thru which probably won't be often. I got 2 for less than the price of an sx zero.

The screen-flip on the 30s makes the location of their ports tolerable. With a right-hand grab the screens on the 20s were either upside down or facing away. Amazing what a difference such little things make.

 

[Buster282]

Hey Tearose. I was lookin at the GS Air M and MS also. Looks like they are both 22mm, I think the MS is shorter, both would have more juice capacity (reg GS is 2.5ml), and a new/improved air flow control. Saw them on pre-order on some sites. Looks good! I'm lookin forward to tryin out the Melo I have on order with my 30w.