Eleaf Istick

[aikanae1]

I agree wholeheartedly....the Eleaf Air GS had much better vapor production and flavor than the nautilus mini, and costs considerably less for tanks and coils.

Problem with the GS Air is that it's mini only. Subtank and Atlantis aren't in the same category with Nautilus. For the category the Nautilus is in (22mm clearo basically) it's a winner. Performs much better IMO than Protanks. I don't know about Anyvape's because I've never seen them for sale anywhere. I planned on skipping the Nautilus too until MFS $15 sale got to me. Whoa. Put away my Protanks and Aerotanks instantly. No leaks, held enough liquid to last for a day, 22mm and the hollowed out tank looks sharp.

It just depends on need and style of vaping. I don't have a need for mini tanks.

 

[tiburonfirst]

well, maybe the gs air m will fix that

 

[inspects]

well, maybe the gs air m will fix that

It certainly should....(i hope)..................

 

[tiburonfirst]

It certainly should....(i hope)..................

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also to consider, and i don't have a gs air to speak from experience, is juice consumption. i'm happy with the gs 16s. it holds only 1.5ml but gets me nicely through the better part of a day. some of the tanks use up juice like there is no tomorrow

 

[Kent C]

Problem with the GS Air is that it's mini only. Subtank and Atlantis aren't in the same category with Nautilus. For the category the Nautilus is in (22mm clearo basically) it's a winner. Performs much better IMO than Protanks. I don't know about Anyvape's because I've never seen them for sale anywhere. I planned on skipping the Nautilus too until MFS $15 sale got to me. Whoa. Put away my Protanks and Aerotanks instantly. No leaks, held enough liquid to last for a day, 22mm and the hollowed out tank looks sharp.

It just depends on need and style of vaping. I don't have a need for mini tanks.

The Subtank Mini is 22mm also. You have to watch it with Kanger - their eMow Mega is 22mm19mm

 

[inspects]

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also to consider, and i don't have a gs air to speak from experience, is juice consumption. i'm happy with the gs 16s. it holds only 1.5ml but gets me nicely through the better part of a day. some of the tanks use up juice like there is no tomorrow

Tibs...the "Air" doesn't use any more juice than a nautilus mini, but I sure like the Eleaf Air's better than the mini's....the airflow is great....prolly why they called it the "Air"......just guessin......

And the coils are CHEAP.....I'm finally saving money......

Not really saving I guess...... after last nights episode trying to figure out what everyone was talking about regarding the mini drippers to taste juice before buying a boat load.

I think I bought a little bit of everything even closely related to the conversation last night.......

 

[Adina]

Has anyone heard what Eleaf's big surprise is? They've been back for a few days but still no announcements on fb..

 

[inspects]

Has anyone heard what Eleaf's big surprise is? They've been back for a few days but still no announcements on fb..

From what I've heard through the grapevine....a new line of Eleaf tanks.....nothing new about more iSticks (which I surely don't want anyway), but would be really pleased when then their new tanks are on the market.

 

[inspects]

Back to the iSticks....I been puffin away on an Eleaf Air on the 50W iStick for two days now @ 8-9 watts...battery level hasn't moved.

The iStick 30's are about the same....if you're not into sub-ohm-ing continually (like me), these are simply great batteries for both types of vaping.

What great technology Eleaf has come up with in such a short period of time.

They will be going places in the tank and mod business BIG-TIME in the very near future. I'd be willing to bet they outsell every competitor in the market (if they are not already).

 

[love coffee]

Yup, for me this has held true. The vapor on the gs air is thicker (fuller) and smoother than the vapor on my 2 nauty minis (with bvc 1.8 ohm coils)


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Same for me. I'm thinking I may even sell my Nauti mini's and buy more GS-airs, I love them so much.

 

[love coffee]

I agree wholeheartedly....the Eleaf Air GS had much better vapor production and flavor than the nautilus mini, and costs considerably less for tanks and coils.

+1. Today, while fidgeting with the Nauti-Mini coils and trying to get the cap screwed back on the tank, I realized just how much I love my GS-Airs.

 

[inspects]

+1. Today, while fidgeting with the Nauti-Mini coils and trying to get the cap screwed back on the tank, I realized just how much I love my GS-Airs.

+++100 Coffee......

What I like the most, including the atomizer, is the cost, good LORD the tanks and coils are inexpensive.

Aspire better return to the drawing board to keep up with Eleaf.........................

 

[Bikenstein]

Vaping times on the 50's with a Rose V2 .8 ohm 15-18w relatively chain vaping without a break more than 5 minutes. Actual hours of operation over a 4 day period
Black. First charge 22 hrs Second charge 19 hrs
Silver First charge 22 hrs. Second charge not gonna be a second test like this. I gotta recuperate Haven't been inhaling much but still...several empty bottles!
Should have kept up with the juice consumption but that varies. I'm more than happy with the battery life and performance and think under my normal vaping I should get 3 days or more out of a charge.

 

[inspects]

What about the Pink one?

Saving that for the powerplant?---------------

Bikes......Have a safe week if you're heading to work at the shutdown this week ahead.

 

[Katdarling]

OOOOOOO boy. A day or so away, and we've gone back to ole time 510 attIES?? Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

You guys are so funny! We "grew up" on those things. I spent the entire first year of vaping doing nothing more than dripping on 510 atties and then 306 atties. Ok, also the 901s which I still love. I even did those big boy 801s. Did they have some quirks? OH YEAH, but that's what we had.

Cartomizers came along and scared the youknowwhat out of me. Too complicated.

Then carto tanks! Oh my. Look at all that liquid swimming on top! Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.


So now, we've gone full circle and some of you are interested in the old gear? I LOVE IT!!!!!!!

You've had brilliant comments from Katya, Kent, Stosh, Bill, and some other old skoolers. If I can add anything, I'll give it my best shot.

 

[aikanae1]

well, maybe the gs air m will fix that

No worries. You hooked me into getting some GS Air's.
A few anyway. I've seen Evods priced higher.

 

[Katdarling]

O.k. I've done gone and done did it....

Got my iStick 50W on Monday and I it. I'd held off from the original 20W, especially after you guinea pigs folks had offered some useful feedback. However, I was at my first Vape Meet today and scored a 30W (mostly because it's cute.) I'm even more in

Both are very comfortable in hand (although, I'm used to the weight and heft of the 50 and my iPV Mini - feel like I'm not holding anything with the 30!)

Guess I'm an official groupie now

Welcome, groupie. Ya couldn't have picked a better group!

Smart woman. My pink Earl arrived on Jan 30th. He outgassed on Feb 17th. Thanks to this thread when I saw "vapor" coming out the USB port I knew what was happening. iStick 30w should be here Monday.

Hope the gradiing is finished so you can have an enjoyable Sunday.

What happened?

I'm not familiar with these devices.

What do they do?

Simply add a few drops of juice in the device and taste it to determine if you like the juice?

Yep, but only at red lights. Yes, we used to drip and drive. Not good.

That's how we used to actually vape back in the old days lol. Seriously, 510 and 306 atomizers. Was a pain in the .....

Oh the memories!!

I too just Googled it...I found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_28uW1CvR3c

What type of wick do they have?....I didn't study this much yet....but this guy is saying the TH is astronomical.

The Smart Vapes were pretty popular. I never had good luck with them, but that's just one small opinion.

These are especially good for sampling/dripping. You take the cartridge off and replace it with a drip tip (510 style)

Acrylic colored ribbon design 510/901 drip tips

The Joye 510 attys are esp. good because they have metal mesh at the base beneath the bridge around the ceramic pot that holds the coil. That keeps eliquid close to the coil. Other 510 attys sometimes have only a 'washer-like' base with no mesh and dry hits are possible.

The one thing to know is that if you use a strong flavor like menthol, cherry or cinnamon, it will be hard to get rid of it, so having a few different ones is a good idea. I find coffee flavor can clean up some of the stronger flavors but not hang around itself. Also having some plain VG (diluted with H2O 80:20) or PG is another good way to clear flavors from the coil (unless it is menthol, then that won't work).

When dripping keep the coil wet. As soon as you notice a drop in flavor is when to add a few more drops. The Joye atty with the mesh can take about 4-5 drops without flooding. And sometimes these coils can have a primer when first using - suggest again, plain VG/PG and only puff don't inhale when breaking one in. A few puffs should do it.

Go, Kent, go! Perfect info here.

 

[aikanae1]

From what I've heard through the grapevine....a new line of Eleaf tanks.....nothing new about more iSticks (which I surely don't want anyway), but would be really pleased when then their new tanks are on the market.

Oh dear no. I can't afford a new line of tanks.

 

[Katdarling]

Sorry I'm giving you guys so much in RD replies, but there's so much I'd love to respond to..... but I'm hungry. I like you, but I'm hungry.

I've been usin 510 bridgeless atomizers for testin juices since I started diy. Pure flavor is all you're gonna get since there is no wick. I always carry one to a B&M to test their juice since most juice bars use cheap clearos that have been dry hit and flooded, etc. I have vaped all day with em. I recommend Joyetech cause some of em burn out quick and easy, others have lasted me weeks.

Beg to differ? (on me knees, Bikers) They were with wick. Silica if I'm not mistaken. The bridgeless part was just an atty in which the steel bridge on top of the coil was removed. I spent hours watching Shan's vids and debridged many of my atomizers. So much fun. Easier to see, easier to clean. And supposedly gave better flavor.

I ordered ten of them....they're surely inexpensive.

Thanks for the info everyone....I'm new at this "stuff"........

Soooooooo cool that you're experimenting with these, inspects. I do hope you'll tell us what you think.

The 510 Atty you link to is designed to be used with cartridges. You want a bridgeless atomizer like the legendary Cisco Spec HH.357

Atomizers - HH.357 Cisco Spec Hybrid Atomizers - Avid Vaper


The HH.357s are stupid expensive, when good alternatives exist, like Kidney Puncher's long barrels.

Atomizers - Kidney Puncher


Good luck!

That they were, alden, but of course you can use them without cartridges as well. The HH 357 was a rather innovative, expensive, and very nice piece of equipment when it appeared on the scene. I still have 2 of them, and they don't ever seem to want to give up the ghost.

Bike...are the ones I ordered correct, based on what you're talking about...this is new to me...sorry for the questions...

Ask ask ask. How else will we all learn?

 

[Katdarling]

Those are like little cartomizers. They have some there that look longer than the ones I have but I think they are the deal. Maybe it's a drip tip in it
Genuine Joye 510 electronic cigarette 10-pack of black atomizers

They often came with a mouthpiece, but they weren't called drip tips back then. You COULD use them as such, but any 510 drip tip would also work.

I'm going to disagree with aldenf on this point. Kendell wanted the attys for sampling flavors and the Joye 510 with the metal mesh for the bridge and at the base hold much more eliquid than bridgeless attys, less probability of dry hits. The Joye 510's get that job done at less expense.

If the goal is straight dripping for pleasure rather than sampling, then the cisco .357 and the instructs on how to vape it are worth the higher price and effort. So on that I would agree. That said, I have tried the .357 and still prefer cisco's 306 lr's with a cannon drip tip for my ultimate dripping setup.

Yes yes YES! (I'll have what he's having.)

And Drew's shipping in those days was ridiculously expensive --for some reason. Oh, Drew... I miss him. He was one of my first vendors; he always had the coolest stuff. I still buy his Nuport and his Lung Green Tea--my favorite ejuices. His version of RY4 is not bad either.



The young'uns, Bill.



I still have a box of blue foam (from Petco, I think), a box of Lipton (pyramid) tea bags and a bunch of those skinny straws from Starbucks...



Amen.

Me too, Katya.

A Spinner battery is an eGo battery with a 510/eGo connection. Anything 510 or eGo threaded will work just fine.

And since we're taking a trip down memory lane, let me remind you that the "eGo threads" were not real threads to begin with--they had purely cosmetic function back then. We used to thread eGo cones onto those threads for a seamless look.

In the old days we did this:

1. We had to screw the skinny 510 atomizer (or cartomizer) into the battery 510 connection.

2. Screw the cone cover onto the outer (eGo) threads to achieve a seamless look. [The new, higher capacity eGos were fatter than the cigalikes and all the atties and cartos were still skinny (9mm diameter) and they looked funny on fat batteries--hence the cone.]

As you can see, we used to be totally color coordinated in those days.

And then came clearomizers--all designed at first to work with the good old eGo batteries:

So yeah--almost anything will work on your Spinner.

GREAT post, history, pics, the whole shebang. Well done, girl.

Hmmmm... I've never dripped a bridged 510 before. When I started vaping less then a year ago, I did some research and watched a couple of videos. Everything I saw said a bridgeless or de-bridged 510 was the way to drip. What you link to states the 510s are specifically for dripping but doesn't mention anything about a bridge. Maybe some users with more 510 atty experience can share some of their wisdom.

I might be a bit lost on the timeline here, alden, but normally an atomizer would clearly be labeled as debridged/bridgeless. If not, bridge in tact.

I was going to preface my remarks with 'Normally, this wouldn't be the brightest move... but I'm going to disagree with aldenf.." Because, your solid information on the new box mods and the toppers that go with them, have been invaluable to me (and others) for moving me from basically a eGo/T3/T3S phase that had lasted 4 years where I was perfectly satisfied with the results from that hardware for the flavors I've been vaping again, for years. I had some mods early on - before eGos and a reo-mini since and I liked the earlier 'Bartleby' (510/14500 based) and the form of the Janty/Joye stick (side by side - 801/10440 based) but the performance of the last just didn't get it when the eGo came on the scene. So when the istick came along, I got re-interested in that form. Again, you and others here and elsewhere - KTMRider, billh, Katya, tib, Kat, inspects, Bikenstein, Stosh, peraspera, qorax, and many other regulars in the VS, istick and small box threads have been very helpful.

I got some of the first bridgeless attys way back when, from comments on the Dangerous Cartos thread - a thread that led to many of the innovations we are still seeing today - the timeline is fascinating lol... My 'luck' with them was about 50/50 but they became very popular and guys like cisco improved on the idea and took it as far as it could go, imo. Where flavor was top priority, dripping was the best answer at that time. When clearos got to the point where flavor was just as good or near just as good as dripping, then the clearo market took over.

With sampling flavors, bridged attys are just cheaper and easier to manage than the .357 (which has a learning curve) or Vapage's Hybrid Universal gold base (no learning curve necessary . As pointed out, with Joye attys and a few others (but not all) the bridge with it's arch of mesh and more importantly - the mesh base - holds enough eliquid near the coil to wick into the coil. I use a less expensive eGo-c upgrade batt that has two modes - 3.4v and 3.7v - for sampling light (3.4) and stronger (3.7) flavors without going to a Twist, Spinner, Vision variable type. It's small and sits along with my new box mods and other eGos which I still use. Perfect for sampling...

Back on topic I have an istick 50, another Defender, GS Air and a Sub on their way....lol (also already have the VS rDNA-40, defender and earlier isticks..... )

And that leads us to where we now stand. The clearos of old were....... forgive me...... garbage! They truly suckethed. But now, with the advent of the newer styles that we are all using, they've in many ways surpassed the old attIEs and cartomizers. Yes, even I have been bit by the clearo bug, and I truly NEVER thought that would happen.

By the way, I'm reaching for my CeroTanks and Air Tanks just a tad more than my Naughties these days.

Looks like I won't have to try the Nautilus, after all...

sure you will. someday. you're katya kurious.

I've bypassed the Nautilus and the Aspire with their crazy assortment of heads...who wants to vape BVDs or even tidy whiteys...

I went with the black rings for color coordination....studying Bling 101....

i'm so proud, Stosh.....