Eleaf Istick

[Katya]

It's bigger

Now that I have it (SubTank) loaded on the istick 50W, I can tell you more I might not roll my eyes when someone says a clearo or coil really improves flavor - I may raise an eyebrow... but I seem to be getting more flavor out of my coffee mix (BWB espresso+Decadent Vapours Doppio espresso) than from my dripping PV. I really don't know why that would be - I'm using the OCC coil but I have OC on the VS vape as well, so it isn't the wicking. vaping the 50W/Subtank at 20W can produce some serious hot vapor. I'm still experimenting but because espresso can handle more heat than any flavor I have, I'm at 12-14W and the vapor is warm but not hot and the flavor holds up well. I'll have to try other flavors later - mainly DV's Habana Reserve - I'm so familiar with that one that I could let you set the wattage and I think I could come close to telling you what the number is

Interesting. I'm still on the fence about sub-ohming.

As per instructions, and Phil's video, I soaked the cotton before vaping and no burning occurring even at 20W. I can say - at home - eGos and the Tabac BCC/T3S have taken a back seat. Still the biggest change in ecigs was the eGo. I could easily vape only them for the rest of my life, although it appears that won't be the case The variable small box PV's are as welcome as the Janty Stick, NicoStick, Bartleby and Ken's mods (and others) were, coming out of the 510, 801, 901, (808) era.

Egos were a big change, but I think that variable voltage and adjustable airflow really changed vaping--at least for me. I really can't vape anything without AFC and vv anymore. And I prefer the small form of those box mods. My poor ProVari, my Sigelei Zmax and my eGos don't see any action anymore.

 

[Katya]

Does anyone have a preference as to what type of organic cotton they use? It's the only wicking material I have left to buy. I found a sampler pack on Amazon that includes Koh Gen Do, Muji, and Cotton Labo. Is there any difference between these? I was thinking of adding Shiseido and Cotton Bacon to the mix as well. I will also pick up some rayon wick to try. Any other brands I should look at?

I have tried KGD, Muji, Labo, rayon. I think KGD and rayon are my favorites. But they are all very similar.

 

[Katya]

Been thinking about trying a GS and getting a 30 watt Istick

Good thinking.

My favorite setup ATM.

Oh, and welcome to the group!

 

[Katya]

Acer 50 when I saw your post about your Eleaf bending adapter and you also you used a different ego/510 adaptor than Eleaf supplys when you buy their Eleaf bending adapter KIT

Acer 50 can you easily open the bending adapter when yours is latched closed with a light force?

So far mine seems to stay closed and it gets contact usually through the pin to the battery

I worry that over time it will no longer latch shut good enough so the pin makes good contact when using it


Also Acer are you using one on an istick 30? I did not know you could do this.

That being said I like the bending adapter

I'm not Acer, but if you want a second opinion, here goes:

I don't use the bending adapter on my iStick 20; I opted for the much cheaper and less obtrusive generic AFC adapter:

Tank Airflow Controller

It doesn't come with a floating pin, but it protects the threads, which is what I got it for in the first place.

And I don't use anything on my iStick 30--the threads seem much sturdier then those on the 20.

Just a piece of unsolicited advice.

 

[capthook]

...I opted for the much cheaper and less obtrusive generic AFC adapter:

Tank Airflow Controller

It doesn't come with a floating pin, but it protects the threads, which is what I got it for in the first place.

Well isn't that a cool little $3 part.

'This is a device designed to control the airflow on tanks. If you are using a tank or other device where the draw is light then this is the solution. The Airflow Controller serves to cover the airflow notches increasing the resistance felt when taking a draw off of your electronic cigarette. '

Translation: Katya wanted a 'nuder device that helps da toodle.

 

[ccwaters]

CCwaters, what is the atomizer on the 30W?

That is a Youde Goblin

CC....I don't have any KFL's....but I will try a few....guess we're two peas in a pod....its fun though...I'm basically (kinda) semi-retired...I like diddling around with this "stuff".

Even when sitting around relaxing I'm always doing something, "diddling" is a pretty good descriptive for it! If there were a Vaping hall of fame the Kayfun is probably the one atomizer that deserves being in it.

 

[JeremyR]

Nice collection!

How are the Flash-E's compared to the Kayfun Lite's? Any leaking issues with the Flash?

The FEV v2 is the *only* atomizer I've used for the last year... So it obviously gets the job done for me. Dripper quality vapor with a 5 ml tank.. Its very good with the air screw out. Dripper works great too. I don't pocket much at all so its not an issue for me.

 

[TrollDragon]

Thanks Jeremy!

I saw the V3 and the GS both by Hotcig on Focal last night, so I'll add them to my cart when I get the funds. An authentic of each would be nice but they are well above my budget.

 

[Kent C]

Interesting. I'm still on the fence about sub-ohming.

Egos were a big change, but I think that variable voltage and adjustable airflow really changed vaping--at least for me. I really can't vape anything without AFC and vv anymore. And I prefer the small form of those box mods. My poor ProVari, my Sigelei Zmax and my eGos don't see any action anymore.

eGos would include the Twist but I think the transition from near cigalikes to eGo was more significant for the industry. I like the ability to change air flow and voltage but as was common early on with vv - most people found a voltage needed and never changed - same with airflow for me.

Of course there are the 1.2Ω OCC coils but the RBA can use any ohm, and many are reporting that the 1.2 ohm coil is reading 1.4. So far I haven't changed out the original .5 but I'm not vaping it at 20W I skipped the Provari/et al phase but the Microstick and even the Reo-mini aren't seeing much use now.....

(thanks KatD for the st. pat avi

 

[JeremyR]

Thanks Jeremy!

I saw the V3 and the GS both by Hotcig on Focal last night, so I'll add them to my cart when I get the funds. An authentic of each would be nice but they are well above my budget.

The v3 clone is nice.. Mine is the tobeco v2.. Only mod I recommend to them including the authentic is to grind the knurling off the air tube at the wick holes if you use high VG.. It partially blocks them and reduces flow, dependant on if you need more flow.

 

[JeremyR]

I've been thinking this for months, Jeremy. For our purposes, Lithium-Polymer batteries are far superior to traditional Lithium-Ion (and derivatives) batteries. Li-Po batteries pose little to no additional safety concerns based on how we use them. In addition, Li-Po batteries are noticeably less expensive.

Manufacturers and modders have been designing both regulated and unregulated devices around battery form-factor. The vaping industry is far in excess of one billion dollars now. It's time battery manufacturers begin making batteries in form-factors more suitable to how we want to utilize them. Can you imagine telling cellular phone and tablet manufacturers that they must design their devices around the 18650 battery? Few consumers would purchase said devices.

All this being said, wouldn't it be nice to be able to easily obtain what is already being manufactured? The 2200-2600mAh cylindrical, "18650" Li-Pos that are being utilized in devices like the iSticks would be brilliant in devices like the original (and now DNA40) Vapor Sharks, Hana Minis, etc. They wholesale for $2 or less each. As the iStick 50W and Smart 30 have demonstrated, building a compact, ergonomic device around two if these is a reality.

I've also been intrigued by the VapeDroid which is a DNA 40 iStick-type APV that flares on one side to accommodate a 26650.

http://youtu.be/Xo5-uEhX2o4

https://www.facebook.com/vapedroid


Although I haven't held one yet (they're stupid expensive), it appears like it would fit comfortably in my largish hands. It is more compact than the dual-battery Smart 30. A 26650-sized Li-Po could easily spec at 3500-4000mAh. We could even have Li-Po-powered devices with user-replaceable (but probably not swappable) batteries, utilizing Deans or similar connectors. The battery wears out after a year-and-a-half and we can replace it.

What we do and use does not require rocket science. It seems that our industry has been driven by anyone but vapers and capable designers/engineer. Fortunately, our voices seem to be getting through to manufacturers, albeit slowly.
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Glad I didn't miss this post from you.. I'm definately seeing a world of extremely powerful lipos. Why are we using imrs, that just recently became decent.

Lipos can be made to any size, they are very small for thier power and longevity. Many are 500 cycles, 60amps no problem. There's even a small bank that will jump start a car at 400amps.

Heres one page I have open now.. No details but looks pretty small.
High Power Polymer Li-Ion Cell: 3.7V 2100 mAh (604490-20C), 7.77Wh, 40A drain rate

Size on this one is 88x36x56mm
http://www.opencroquet.org/wholesal...thium-polymer-battery-15c-discharge-rohs.html

 

[scaredmice]

Don't forget that LiPo's swell...well, they got swollen under certain conditions, but far from being a terminal issue. They just vent internally gas without losing it, when heated, under heavy loads, and once they recover they get its original size.

The lack of a rigid frame for them, unlike IMR's, made them far more susceptible of getting punctured or simply beaten.

So LiPo's need protection and some spare space to swell, and that ruins any chance of getting more power and/or capacity in some aplications....... Compare the Hana mini (1200 mAh, two 600 mAh packages in parallel) with the 18500 clon, which is rated at 1000 mAh (and just because that's an expected capacity for a good 18500 IMR high drain battery, at about 15-20 A max. discharge).

Depending on the LiPo package, the available space, the running conditions, and the new IMR's available, you do not always get more from a LiPo, unless you put them without any respect for their specifications......and they cannot get quickly swapped by freshly charged batteries.

Once you consider a precise application, your mileage may vary, depending on form factor, quality of both LiPo and IMR, and goal to achieve. And in any chance, I bet on IMR's for their safety record, if that could be said.......

 

[Katya]

eGos would include the Twist but I think the transition from near cigalikes to eGo was more significant for the industry. I like the ability to change air flow and voltage but as was common early on with vv - most people found a voltage needed and never changed - same with airflow for me.

It really depends on one's style of vaping. I tweak my voltage all the time--I use different toppers, both single and dual coils, and different juices.

Of course there are the 1.2Ω OCC coils but the RBA can use any ohm, and many are reporting that the 1.2 ohm coil is reading 1.4. So far I haven't changed out the original .5 but I'm not vaping it at 20W I skipped the Provari/et al phase but the Microstick and even the Reo-mini aren't seeing much use now.....

I skipped the Reo... And I still regret it.

(thanks KatD for the st. pat avi

It's a nice avi!

 

[e-pipeman]

I like the little green bird, Katya. What is it?

 

[Katya]

I like the little green bird, Katya. What is it?

It's a Green Honeycreeper.

And thank you!

 

[tearose50]

Guess I'm the oddball here -- My ProVari's, especially the Titanium, are my daily drivers. I adore my itty bitty collection, but they are pretty much dedicated to purse and travel. Of course, in So Cal, we drive a lot, so they get plenty of use.

Some of my previous favorites are also enjoyed ocasionly and are still quite cherished. Others are simply retired or have found new homes via sale, PIF or the dumpster.

 

[Kent C]

It really depends on one's style of vaping. I tweak my voltage all the time--I use different toppers, both single and dual coils, and different juices.

Style of vaping - true. I have a device for each flavor so not much changes. And I don't know how many times I've seen - re: vv - "I keep mine at 4.2v!" lol (or other 'fixed' voltage). It's nice to have the capability (not available on a regular eGo at 4.2v) but many users (not all simply don't change it, once the sweet spot was found.

 

[r77r7r]

Decided to get a 30 now even tho my 20 from Oct? is fine. Need better voltage regulation. Mean is just mean sometimes, lol.

I don't shop much and looking around it seems that there's not many quality equipment shops out there. Mostly eliquid shops. Don't really trust the shops that have sprung up the past year or so.

Guess I'll be waiting until MVS or SV gets them in stock again.

 

[r77r7r]

Oh, it's dinner time......Dinner music perhaps? ( ignore the Snow! )

 

[inspects]

lol....that picture looks like a living hell, meaning cold as hell, a really odd combination of words, but that's English----

its about 85 here......