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I changed to the T3D's because they can take Kanger single coils, or the updated dual coils I like much better. I really love my occ coils, though. The Kanger Subtank Mini takes the updated coils, too, just have to buy the SubOhm resistance. Though I doubt I'll use then in my Subtank, since I order the others for my hubby's T3D and my Aerotank V2.
My Nautilus Mini and Genitank Mega sit in their boxes on the shelf these days so I thought what the hey and dug out the old GeniTank to put a fresh coil in it and some juice. Tried it out on the 20W, iPOW 2 and the IPV2s for a little bit.Then that familiar KangerTech gurgling reared its ugly head and the reasons why I hated this thing came literally flooding back to me.

So I drained it, cleaned it and put it back in the box. I am glad I made the switch to Kayfun's and will never look back on a Kanger dual coil unit again. ;)
 

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Hello everyone

I have been reading this Thread: Eleaf Istick for several months in the background and read over the 1000 plus pages of this tread and learned a lot, and finally decided to register on ecf

The regulars here are and have been wonderful and always helpful

I would like to sincerely thank the regulars here for all their posts related to the Eleaf Istick

Because of you I bought a 20 watt Eleaf Istick and really like it.

There is a really nice family of regulars here and I would like to interact with you

I was able to easily quit ciggs and switch to ecig vaping about 6 months ago
I make my own juices and use a 50/50 pg\vg mix with currently 15 % nic
I use Nautilus mini and several Klangertech Evods

Been thinking about trying a GS and getting a 30 watt Istick
 
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Hello everyone

I have been reading this Thread: Eleaf Istick for several months in the background and read over the 1000 plus pages of this tread and learned a lot, and finally decided to register on ecf

The regulars here are and have been wonderful and always helpful

I would like to sincerely thank the regulars here for all their posts related to the Eleaf Istick

Because of you I bought a 20 watt Eleaf Istick and really like it.

There is a really nice family of regulars here and I would like to interact with you

Hiya KelogGes!
Way to go registering on ecf.
And catching up a thread this size is no easy task. :ohmy:
Congrats on the 20w purchase. Glad you like it.
Kind of surprised you went with the 20w - guess you wanted to save a few $$?
If you decide to add to your collection, the 30w upgrades are worth it.
 

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Hello everyone

I have been reading this Thread: Eleaf Istick for several months in the background and read over the 1000 plus pages of this tread and learned a lot, and finally decided to register on ecf

The regulars here are and have been wonderful and always helpful

I would like to sincerely thank the regulars here for all their posts related to the Eleaf Istick

Because of you I bought a 20 watt Eleaf Istick and really like it.

There is a really nice family of regulars here and I would like to interact with you

I was able to easily quit ciggs and switch to ecig vaping about 6 months ago
I make my own juices and use a 50/50 pg\vg mix with currently 15 % nic
I use Nautilus mini and several Klangertech Evods

Been thinking about trying a GS and getting a 30 watt Istick

Hello again and welcome to the thread. The 20 is just fine especially if you vape at 4v and up. Just use higher ohm coils in your evods :)
 

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I'm beginning to think vapers should have went lipo from the beginning.. Imrs are not as good, let alone the icr's in the beginning. You can find lipos that blow imrs out of the water. You can easily find a 60amp cont. lipo.


I've been thinking this for months, Jeremy. For our purposes, Lithium-Polymer batteries are far superior to traditional Lithium-Ion (and derivatives) batteries. Li-Po batteries pose little to no additional safety concerns based on how we use them. In addition, Li-Po batteries are noticeably less expensive.

Manufacturers and modders have been designing both regulated and unregulated devices around battery form-factor. The vaping industry is far in excess of one billion dollars now. It's time battery manufacturers begin making batteries in form-factors more suitable to how we want to utilize them. Can you imagine telling cellular phone and tablet manufacturers that they must design their devices around the 18650 battery? Few consumers would purchase said devices.

All this being said, wouldn't it be nice to be able to easily obtain what is already being manufactured? The 2200-2600mAh cylindrical, "18650" Li-Pos that are being utilized in devices like the iSticks would be brilliant in devices like the original (and now DNA40) Vapor Sharks, Hana Minis, etc. They wholesale for $2 or less each. As the iStick 50W and Smart 30 have demonstrated, building a compact, ergonomic device around two if these is a reality.

I've also been intrigued by the VapeDroid which is a DNA 40 iStick-type APV that flares on one side to accommodate a 26650.

http://youtu.be/Xo5-uEhX2o4

https://www.facebook.com/vapedroid


Although I haven't held one yet (they're stupid expensive), it appears like it would fit comfortably in my largish hands. It is more compact than the dual-battery Smart 30. A 26650-sized Li-Po could easily spec at 3500-4000mAh. We could even have Li-Po-powered devices with user-replaceable (but probably not swappable) batteries, utilizing Deans or similar connectors. The battery wears out after a year-and-a-half and we can replace it.

What we do and use does not require rocket science. It seems that our industry has been driven by anyone but vapers and capable designers/engineer. Fortunately, our voices seem to be getting through to manufacturers, albeit slowly.

Now, it's imperative that our political representatives and public policy makers hear our voices as well. If you haven't looked at the CASA CTAs posted in the banner at the top of every ECF page, please do so. Governments of all shapes and sizes are trying to severely impact what has finally allowed many of us to permanently ditch tobacco products. It's absurd and, frankly, a bit frightening. I don't know about you, but I've had just about enough of our governments' idiocy in creating public policy. I'm mad as hell and won't take it any more! Please call/write your representatives and let them know what you think, that you're watching and vote.


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Hello everyone

I have been reading this Thread: Eleaf Istick for several months in the background and read over the 1000 plus pages of this tread and learned a lot, and finally decided to register on ecf

The regulars here are and have been wonderful and always helpful

I would like to sincerely thank the regulars here for all their posts related to the Eleaf Istick

Because of you I bought a 20 watt Eleaf Istick and really like it.

There is a really nice family of regulars here and I would like to interact with you

I was able to easily quit ciggs and switch to ecig vaping about 6 months ago
I make my own juices and use a 50/50 pg\vg mix with currently 15 % nic
I use Nautilus mini and several Klangertech Evods

Been thinking about trying a GS and getting a 30 watt Istick

Welcome, KelogGes! We party here every night. The more the merrier.
 

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I've been thinking this for months, Jeremy. For our purposes, Lithium-Polymer batteries are far superior to traditional Lithium-Ion (and derivatives) batteries. Li-Po batteries pose little to no additional safety concerns based on how we use them. In addition, Li-Po batteries are noticeably less expensive.

Manufacturers and modders have been designing both regulated and unregulated devices around battery form-factor. The vaping industry is far in excess of one billion dollars now. It's time battery manufacturers begin making batteries in form-factors more suitable to how we want to utilize them. Can you imagine telling cellular phone and tablet manufacturers that they must design their devices around the 18650 battery? Few consumers would purchase said devices.

All this being said, wouldn't it be nice to be able to easily obtain what is already being manufactured? The 2200-2600mAh cylindrical, "18650" Li-Pos that are being utilized in devices like the iSticks would be brilliant in devices like the original (and now DNA40) Vapor Sharks, Hana Minis, etc. They wholesale for $2 or less each. As the iStick 50W and Smart 30 have demonstrated, building a compact, ergonomic device around two if these is a reality.

I've also been intrigued by the VapeDroid which is a DNA 40 iStick-type APV that flares on one side to accommodate a 26650.

C1D2 DNA 40 26650 by VapeDroid - YouTube

https://www.facebook.com/vapedroid


Although I haven't held one yet (they're stupid expensive), it appears like it would fit comfortably in my largish hands. It is more compact than the dual-battery Smart 30. A 26650-sized Li-Po could easily spec at 3500-4000mAh. We could even have Li-Po-powered devices with user-replaceable (but probably not swappable) batteries, utilizing Deans or similar connectors. The battery wears out after a year-and-a-half and we can replace it.

What we do and use does not require rocket science. It seems that our industry has been driven by anyone but vapers and capable designers/engineer. Fortunately, our voices seem to be getting through to manufacturers, albeit slowly.

Now, it's imperative that our political representatives and public policy makers hear our voices as well. If you haven't looked at the CASA CTAs posted in the banner at the top of every ECF page, please do so. Governments of all shapes and sizes are trying to severely impact what has finally allowed many of us to permanently ditch tobacco products. It's absurd. I don't know about you, but I've had just about enough of our governments' idiocy in creating public policy. I'm mad as hell and won't take it any more! Please call/write your representatives and let them know what you think, that you're watching and vote.


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I want something in this type of form factor with correct specs for vaping. (This one is a monster at 156mm x 59mm x 9.7mm Weight 205 grams)
Lipo-3-7V-10000mah-10C.jpg

All-Battery.com: Li-Polymer 3.7V 10Ah 5C/10C (9759156) Battery Cell (DGR-A)

Imagine the possibilities.
 
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Hiya KelogGes!
Way to go registering on ecf.
And catching up a thread this size is no easy task. :ohmy:
Congrats on the 20w purchase. Glad you like it.
Kind of surprised you went with the 20w - guess you wanted to save a few $$?
If you decide to add to your collection, the 30w upgrades are worth it.


Howdy capthook

When I decided to pull the trigger on the istick 20 W The 30 W had not even been announced yet

People here in the istick forum thread; were still talking about the 20W pin and problems with the atty attachment screw treads some people where having.

Remember the 50W has only just been made available; the 30W istick availability has not really been available very long either!

The 20W has been available and shipping for over a year I think if I am not mistaken from what I have read here and other places


I knew eleaf was working on the 30W when i pulled the trigger on the 20W, but again there was no release date whatsoever

I made a calculated risk decision as this is my first boxmod, the price I paid for my 20W (thanks to you guys here) was cheap including shipping

I also got the Eleaf bending device for the 20W because I knew about the issues with the pin and the weak treads; (again thanks to you guys here)

When I got my 20W istick I needed another battery pretty bad but did not want to pay $100 for a vapershark unit I liked

I LIKE MY 20W very much it suits my needs FOR NOW and I use it as my main squeeze cause it charges quick and lasts almost 2 whole days

However I know another boxmod either an istick 30W or maybe even a Defender 30W would be needed and useful for another backup battery
 

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Hello again and welcome to the thread. The 20 is just fine especially if you vape at 4v and up. Just use higher ohm coils in your evods :)

Howdy Bikenstein, back to you toooooo!!!

I agree with you about the 20w

I think eleaf should keep making it and sell it at a lower price point then the 30W

I am using 1.8 ohm coils currently on my Evod IIs and on my nauti mini

Oh and I will be asking you soon questions related to several of the coils you are using and purchased or built that you have recently written about here if you dont mind and also trying not to get too far off topic

I know that your many years ecig knowledge is vast from reading many of your posts
 

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Howdy Bikenstein, back to you toooooo!!!

I agree with you about the 20w

I think eleaf should keep making it and sell it at a lower price point then the 30W

I am using 1.8 ohm coils currently on my Evod IIs and on my nauti mini

Oh and I will be asking you soon questions related to several of the coils you are using and purchased or built that you have recently written about here if you dont mind and also trying not to get too far off topic

I know that your many years ecig knowledge is vast from reading many of your posts

:lol:........................................more like many months. I'm not the most knowledgeable coil builder but post your questions and you'll get plenty of answers :)
 

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I have both the 20W & 30W Eleaf, Like most I had drama with the pin on the 20W and I found that the problem in the majority was the 510 adaptor that Eleaf supplied. As the the pin on the 20W as we all know colapses downward with continuous use I got about a month and a half out of mine before the pin started to collapse down. I overcame this problem in two ways.

1. I purchased a different ego/510 adaptor
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this has a longer thread than the one supplied by Eleaf.

2. The second option was the Eleaf bending adaptor which has a spring loaded pin
Istick_Bending_tool_medium_c2378929-585c-46e8-ad09-787ce401eaf0_large.png


This worked far better however it does not work all that well with the 30W Eleaf due to its design change. If you want the Eleaf 20 Watt bending adaptor I found mine here and the Eleaf pouches on a lanyard are also good, The Eleaf is not waterproof and dropping it in a rain puddle does little to promote its longevity.

Cheers

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Has anyone heard any more about the 50 W Eleafs, my three suppliers have told me that the origional batch have been withdrawn by Eleaf as there was some sort of problem with them. One of my suppliers ordered 100 of them only to have his money refunded and was told the product had been withdrawn from sale by the manufacturer.

Acer 50
 

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Has anyone heard any more about the 50 W Eleafs, my three suppliers have told me that the origional batch have been withdrawn by Eleaf as there was some sort of problem with them. One of my suppliers ordered 100 of them only to have his money refunded and was told the product had been withdrawn from sale by the manufacturer.

Acer 50

My 2 work great............

I did hear of problems on the initial shipment but now they are for sale everywhere :)
 
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As of the beginning of 2014, my choice of vaping hardware had stabilized in a way that was very satisfying to me. I had a large stock of Kayfuns on VAMOs/Kicked mechs and small-chamber RDA bottom feeders, and I was also pleased with my BCC clearos---humble GS-H2s and GS-H5Ts with adjustable airflow---on Vision Spinner clones. Early in the year, I began using Koh Gen Do cotton (and later rayon) wicks when rebuilding the heads, which was a major upgrade over silica.

Then in the spring of 2014 came the Aspire Nautilus tank, followed in September by the iStick 20, which was the first wave in the tsunami of higher-wattage smallish box mods that followed. I went on a spending spree that netted five iStick 20Ws, two iStick 30Ws, a Cloupor Mini 30W, an IPV Mini 30W, and two iPV Mini 2 70Ws. When paired with the Atlantis, Kanger Subtank, and various RDA drippers, my vaping world was plunged into confusion and disarray that has only recently begun to shake out and re-stabilize.

In December, I discovered Protank/EVOD replacement heads with cotton-wicked vertical coils from FastTech for less than a buck each. My earlier attempts at building vertical coils in Kanger-style heads had been hit-or-miss. Getting the wicking and draw right was often frustrating, enough so that I eventually gave up and went back to the easier horizontal coil rebuilds. But the cotton vertical coil heads from FastTech are both consistent and great performers from 8 watts up to 15 watts, providing another bump up in flavor for my modest BCC clearos. With all my spiffy new gear, I'd considered retiring them, but the vertical coil heads brought them right back into the fold.

What I'm finding now is that my higher-wattage/subohm gear produces a fundamentally different kind of vaping experience. It's not "better" than my previous hardware, just different---much more intense and aggressive. I like that, but not all the time. Sometimes I want the smoother, more balanced flavor and easy, laid-back vape of my GS clearos and Kayfuns, or the purity of my RDA bottom-feeders. In January, I wondered if my vaping might have hit a wall after four years, but that has now passed. It's all good again, and my choices are significantly expanded.

For those still using BCC clearos or Protanks, below are links to the 1.0 ohm and 1.8 ohm cotton-wicked vertical coil replacement heads at FastTech. One review states that they don't fit the T3S or MTS because the metal tops are 1mm too wide for the T3S/MTS chimneys, but they've fit perfectly on all my GS-series BCC clearos and Protank 1:

5-pack - 1.0 ohm cotton-wicked vertical coil replacement heads for Protank/Evod-style BCC clearos
5-pack - 1.8 ohm cotton-wicked vertical coil replacement heads for Protank/Evod-style BCC clearos


Howdy billherbst,

excellent post

your post forced me to finally register here after reading for over 6 months here in the eleaf istick thread to ask this question TO YOU he he he

Question

you posted you are using / buying these specific coils from fasttech

5-pack - 1.0 ohm cotton-wicked vertical coil replacement heads for Protank/Evod-style BCC clearos
5-pack - 1.8 ohm cotton-wicked vertical coil replacement heads for Protank/Evod-style BCC clearos[/QUOTE]

I looked AT both of these coils on the fasttech website using the link you posted and I am pretty impressed after looking at them and their cost

Are you using these coils ON an early version of the Protank/Evod I ???

or are you using these ON the newer version of Protank/Evod II ???

These FastTech coils ARE REALLY COOL BUT I am not sure exactly what they work on for the version of Protank/Evod different models??

I think you also said they will work on Eleaf GS tanks too? But again I am not sure of what model GS, I also ask this because I am thinking of buying a GSair

My Evod II's have dual bottom coils latest version Evod dual updated coils

I also have a few older ver one single coil evods but don't use them much anymore because the new design of the Evod and the Protank IIs are much better
 
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Hello everyone

I have been reading this Thread: Eleaf Istick for several months in the background and read over the 1000 plus pages of this tread and learned a lot, and finally decided to register on ecf

The regulars here are and have been wonderful and always helpful

I would like to sincerely thank the regulars here for all their posts related to the Eleaf Istick

Because of you I bought a 20 watt Eleaf Istick and really like it.

There is a really nice family of regulars here and I would like to interact with you

I was able to easily quit ciggs and switch to ecig vaping about 6 months ago
I make my own juices and use a 50/50 pg\vg mix with currently 15 % nic
I use Nautilus mini and several Klangertech Evods

Been thinking about trying a GS and getting a 30 watt Istick

Welcome to the wacky world of all things 'Stick, KelogGes!

(one of the nite shift)~



What we do and use does not require rocket science. It seems that our industry has been driven by anyone but vapers and capable designers/engineer. Fortunately, our voices seem to be getting through to manufacturers, albeit slowly.

Now, it's imperative that our political representatives and public policy makers hear our voices as well. If you haven't looked at the CASA CTAs posted in the banner at the top of every ECF page, please do so. Governments of all shapes and sizes are trying to severely impact what has finally allowed many of us to permanently ditch tobacco products. It's absurd and, frankly, a bit frightening. I don't know about you, but I've had just about enough of our governments' idiocy in creating public policy. I'm mad as hell and won't take it any more! Please call/write your representatives and let them know what you think, that you're watching and vote.


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You get right back ON that soapbox, deary! Everyone one of us needs to be aware and participate to whatever extent we can.

If anyone is not yet a member of CASAA, please do join? CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association
 
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