Eleaf Istick

[Carnage9270]

The istick 30W and 50W mods are RMS calibration only, just as the istick 20W is mean/avg calibration only. Calibration isn't switchable on any of the three.

Mean vs. RMS and PWM vs. DC-DC are apples and oranges---completely different in what they are and what they do. In fact, mean or average calibration is irrelevant in DC-DC (or "flat" signal) mode of regulating voltage. Only RMS applies in DC-DC. With pulse-width modulation (PWM), either method of calculating voltage can be used---mean/avg or RMS---but RMS is much preferred, since mean calculation of overall voltage will result in the mod "running hot" at lower wattages, as the iStick 20W does.

While the iStick 30W and 50W mods are not "true" DC-DC devices---they still use high-frequency PWM at low wattages to approximate a kind of faux step-down (or "bucking") below the supplied battery voltage---the "running hot" problem was mostly addressed and corrected by eleaf's engineers and chip programmers. Both the 30W and 50W are slightly inaccurate below 4 volts, but not in a way that's obvious to most users, and certainly nowhere close to the inaccuracy of the 20W iStick.



Nope. What the iStick 30W and 50W do, as well as the iPV Mini 30W, is automatically switch over from PWM to DC-DC regulation when the selected wattage reaches about 4 volts, roughly what the battery supplies. I appreciate that this distinction can be confusing, but that's about voltage regulation, not calibration.

You are absolutely correct. Somewhere between reading it all and barfing back a response with my keyboard, my mind completely twisted acronyms.

 

[KelogGes]

THANKS Bill for your knowledge and wisdom regarding this

I just got my 30W today and I knew the 30W is RMS and my 20W is programmed in Mean

What a difference at different voltage and wattage between them, Although I have know the theory behind RMS and Mean for sometime

It was not until today right after I got my new 30W and compare it side by side with my 20W and vape them and also change different settings and both SEE and FEEL the difference

I normally use low settings as I am not a cloud chaser;. Mostly had my 20W set to voltage trying to keep it just under burning my juice and yet enjoying some flavor using my Naugty Mini's and ocassionally my evod's

Its interesting how the engineers @ Eleaf and elsewhere pull lower voltages than the battery output using microprocessors

I am a marine engineer and find this fascinating, thanks again for your input very much

The iStick 30W and 50W mods are RMS calibration only, just as the iStick 20W is mean/avg calibration only. Calibration isn't switchable on any of the three.

Mean vs. RMS and PWM vs. DC-DC are apples and oranges---completely different in what they are and what they do. In fact, mean or average calibration is irrelevant in DC-DC (or "flat" signal) mode of regulating voltage. Only RMS applies in DC-DC. With pulse-width modulation (PWM), either method of calculating voltage can be used---mean/avg or RMS---but RMS is much preferred, since mean calculation of overall voltage will result in the mod "running hot" at lower wattages, as the iStick 20W does.

While the iStick 30W and 50W mods are not "true" DC-DC devices---they still use high-frequency PWM at low wattages to approximate a kind of faux step-down (or "bucking") below the supplied battery voltage---the "running hot" problem was mostly addressed and corrected by eLeaf's engineers and chip programmers. Both the 30W and 50W are slightly inaccurate below 4 volts, but not in a way that's obvious to most users, and certainly nowhere close to the inaccuracy of the 20W iStick.



Nope. What the iStick 30W and 50W do, as well as the iPV Mini 30W, is automatically switch over from PWM to DC-DC regulation when the selected wattage reaches about 4 volts, roughly what the battery supplies. I appreciate that this distinction can be confusing, but that's about voltage regulation, not calibration.

 

[love coffee]

When I ordered my iStick 30W

I also ordered 2 iStick 20W/30W Silicone Cases the cost was $2.00 each before giving the discount coupon code from Rocky Mountain Vaper

I got my order today

I want to tell you that these $2 silicone cases fit both my 20W and New 30W iSticks absolutely perfectly in every-way

The Silicone has no smell after you let it sit in the air a short while

This Silicone case has a perfect feel for your hand and or fingers,, you can even feel the fire button place and the up down arrows places without looking of the etched areas.and the cutout display window

They are not slippery, they are perfect for gripping or holding your iStick

I do not know for sure if these are Eleaf brand or not? They probably are because of the quality.

Non of my iSticks have loose or noisy or rattle buttons, but if yours do these cases will stop the noise the moment you slip them on

They Slip on nicely with a snug fit

What a great deal, I have seen Silicon iStick cases selling on ebay or other vapor web sites for $6-$10 or more


I could not be happier getting these cases

iStick 20W/30W Silicone Case - $2.00 : Rocky Mountain Vapor, The Mountain top of Electronic Cigarettes

I couldn't agree more about these silicone cases. I don't have a nekkid istick in the house! Best istick accessory EVAH!

 

[Bikenstein]

30s and 50s are very accurate and have no problem runnin at even low watts. The 20 doesn't work well at lower watts so just use a 2.5 ohm or higher coil in it to vape at lower watts. You dont have to understand why

 

[Ren76]

If you have a regular/common set of precision screwdrivers grab the smallest flat head and you'll be able to remove the screws no problem, no need to get technical lol.

 

[r77r7r]

If you have a regular/common set of precision screwdrivers grab the smallest flat head and you'll be able to remove the screws no problem, no need to get technical lol.

True enough. I've removed many an Allen screw with a slotted.

 

[KelogGes]

30s and 50s are very accurate and have no problem runnin at even low watts. The 20 doesn't work well at lower watts so just use a 2.5 ohm or higher coil in it to vape at lower watts. You dont have to understand why

I have been using 1.8 ohm for my nauti mini's and 1.8-2.0 ohm for my evod's

they seemed ok, but I never used my iStick turned up very high

usually around 4 volts or less or 5 watts

So I didn't get much burning of my juice

with my 30W I just got I have it at 7,5 watts right now and display says 3.8 v

 

[Barryo]

I couldn't agree more about these silicone cases. I don't have a nekkid istick in the house! Best istick accessory EVAH!

Let me pile on here.....these silicone cases are fantastic and they are not lint magnets like some people thought they might be......I have 11 of them and all are a perfect fit. Now if we could only get the cases for the 50's into some of our domestic web sites it would be great.

 

[Barryo]

As far as I know, PBusardo never did a 30w review, only the 20w and 50w.


Question to you guys who have taken them apart: where do you get the proper size Torx driver? I've been to several hardware stores and nobody carries one that tiny.

I could not find a place that sold individual Torx bits so I ended up getting a 34 piece set at Harborfreight. The 34 piece set is item #93916 and is currently on sale for $6.99. Sorry I'm not computer savvy enough to imbed a link.

 

[Bikenstein]

I have been using 1.8 ohm for my nauti mini's and 1.8-2.0 ohm for my evod's

they seemed ok, but I never used my iStick turned up very high

usually around 4 volts or less or 5 watts

So I didn't get much burning of my juice

with my 30W I just got I have it at 7,5 watts right now

You shouldn't get any burning of your juice. The 20 will not regulate below 4v or battery voltage, whichever is currently lowest. You may read a 3v average reading but it will be closer to the battery charge in output. Higher ohm coils will help. My wife uses no less than 2 ohm. I run my 30 with most juices at 10-14w with 1.5 ohm dual coils. 24-28w with .6 to .8 ohm builds. My 30 is malfunctioning. It was reading 39.4w with a 1.5 ohm coil earlier New Istick 40w???

 

[gandymarsh]

Let me pile on here.....these silicone cases are fantastic and they are not lint magnets like some people thought they might be......I have 11 of them and all are a perfect fit. Now if we could only get the cases for the 50's into some of our domestic web sites it would be great.

Yup, I have 2 that I bought from Sweet-Vapes. I think they were $2.75 ea. I need a few more.

Edit; $2.95

 

[Evie Luv]

So many tinkerers in here, I love it.

I'm not a tinkerer but I love to watch tinkerers.

 

[KelogGes]

You shouldn't get any burning of your juice. The 20 will not regulate below 4v or battery voltage, whichever is currently lowest. You may read a 3v average reading but it will be closer to the battery charge in output. Higher ohm coils will help. My wife uses no less than 2 ohm. I run my 30 with most juices at 10-14w with 1.5 ohm dual coils. 24-28w with .6 to .8 ohm builds. My 30 is malfunctioning. It was reading 39.4w with a 1.5 ohm coil earlier New Istick 40w???

I have not had much burning because I have kept my voltage pared with my wattage in volt mode right under where it would cause a slight burning with my 20W Bike

Its right at the borderline and a bought once a week I wash my tanks out and refill them

I know on the 20W I could turn it up higher quite a bit and i wouldn't have any burning up to a point I think


It will be interesting for me using the my new 30W, because it has rms and better control at low power settings as well as upper settings
I have used it enough today so far to know it wants higher setting then my 20W wants

On the other hand I have turned my 30W up today to about 15Ws from 7.5Ws and its fine if I wanted to run this high (but I dont really want to to at this point)

 

[inspects]

When I ordered my iStick 30W

I also ordered 2 iStick 20W/30W Silicone Cases the cost was $2.00 each before giving the discount coupon code from Rocky Mountain Vaper

I got my order today

I want to tell you that these $2 silicone cases fit both my 20W and New 30W iSticks absolutely perfectly in every-way

The Silicone has no smell after you let it sit in the air a short while

This Silicone case has a perfect feel for your hand and or fingers,, you can even feel the fire button place and the up down arrows places without looking of the etched areas.and the cutout display window

They are not slippery, they are perfect for gripping or holding your iStick

I do not know for sure if these are Eleaf brand or not? They probably are because of the quality.

Non of my iSticks have loose or noisy or rattle buttons, but if yours do these cases will stop the noise the moment you slip them on

They Slip on nicely with a snug fit

What a great deal, I have seen Silicon iStick cases selling on ebay or other vapor web sites for $6-$10 or more


I could not be happier getting these cases

iStick 20W/30W Silicone Case - $2.00 : Rocky Mountain Vapor, The Mountain top of Electronic Cigarettes

Thanks KelogGes.....I just bought a few also (all the red ones they had in stock)...and some of the leather lanyards (yeah - I bet its leather)... ...for the 20's and 30's.....

Those lanyard look like they should work well for what I do during the day (not much of anything)..........

 

[KelogGes]

Let me pile on here.....these silicone cases are fantastic and they are not lint magnets like some people thought they might be......I have 11 of them and all are a perfect fit. Now if we could only get the cases for the 50's into some of our domestic web sites it would be great.

Howdy Barryo,

I had read every post here in this thread on everything before I recently got a user account; ouch lol it was a lot of reading; but I leaned a lot about how good the iStick is and also about how nice and wonderful people in this tread are, and how much knowledge from years of experience there is here. Pretty nice place with very friendly and helpful users here

Anyway, although I had read people asking about silicon cases and there were a few reply's here in the tread, no one said much about a comparison of them or best place to buy them etc etc

When I got the 2 I ordered from Rocky Mountain Vaper with my 30W, I knew right away they where exceptional even if they are really cheap in cost

I knew I had to do a post to others about them as a MUST HAVE iStick SILICONE CASE for the 20 and 30W's Just to let people know who don't.

What a nice case these are!!!

I don't know how long they will last in use but I bet quite awhile, and I will buy replacements if they do.

 

[inspects]

So many tinkerers in here, I love it.

I'm not a tinkerer but I love to watch tinkerers.

Not much of a tinkerer here either, and also became quite lazy lately, bought a bag of pre made coils from Eleaf....better deal than messing around making um....and CHEAP.....haven't received them yet, hope their not junk.......

 

[Jumpin' In...]

I've managed to put a bunch of light scratches on the screen of my iStick 20, probably mostly due to all the other stuff I carry around with me in my pockets. It's gotten bad enough that it's sometimes hard for my older eyes to read the ohm display. It's particularly bad outdoors or in a well-lighted room.

Just wondering whether anyone knows of a relatively quick and simple fix for this problem?

 

[inspects]

I've managed to put a bunch of light scratches on the screen of my iStick 20, probably mostly due to all the other stuff I carry around with me in my pockets. It's gotten bad enough that it's sometimes hard for my older eyes to read the ohm display. It's particularly bad outdoors or in a well-lighted room.

Just wondering whether anyone knows of a relatively quick and simple fix for this problem?

Maybe plastic car headlight restorer..?

Just a guess, after watching the ad on TV....making plastic look new again....prolly some negativity about the product they don't disclose though....

Lotta magic happenin on TV........

 

[KelogGes]

Thanks KelogGes.....I just bought a few also (all the red ones they had in stock)...and some of the leather lanyards (yeah - I bet its leather)... ...for the 20's and 30's.....

Those lanyard look like they should work well for what I do during the day (not much of anything)..........

I had no idea they are as nice as they are until they were delivered today,

I had really wanted black ones, but they were out of stock right now, although my favorite color is blue,

I was worried about the blue ones or even the red ones, that after they get dirty or soiled etc., they would look terrible


But when I received the blue ones today I was really nicely surprised for many reasons.

Color does not matter, you can clean them and they should last a long time I think

I am surprised to say WHAT A NICE iStick CASE!!!!
Regardless of color I think these particular silicon cases are perfect

(I dont know about the leather ones? I did not like the design of the flap, plus I am not sure about "the leather")

 

[mudram99]

I've managed to put a bunch of light scratches on the screen of my iStick 20, probably mostly due to all the other stuff I carry around with me in my pockets. It's gotten bad enough that it's sometimes hard for my older eyes to read the ohm display. It's particularly bad outdoors or in a well-lighted room.

Just wondering whether anyone knows of a relatively quick and simple fix for this problem?

I did see a post somewhere about some type of polish that could bring them back to like new. It required quite a bit of work though as I believe it basically "sanded" down the screen removing the scratches kinda like rubbing compound for a car finish. Sorry I couldn't offer anything specific but maybe that will point you a direction to search. Good luck.