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Patrick H

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Got mine yesterday. Size and shape are awesome. Love that. Complaints- I'm a carto tank guy, and I can't use anything under a 2.5ohm. (single coil) on a full charge without it burning. 2.5ohm-2.8 at the lowest setting (either voltage or wattage) and it is fantastic. It really, really bothers me that, even though I can get a good vape, the setting is nowhere near accurate. My carto tanks with the locking ring, like the Artemus, sometimes don't make contact with the center pin. One more, the threads in the 510 are poor, and made of cheap metal. I don't expect the to last long, but I'm used to using my Sigeleis with stainless steel threads. I do love vaping this little thing though, when I use a higher resistance carto. It's probably the most comfortable, ergonomic APV I've used.
 

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What you all do not realize, is that once you use the existing charge in your iStick, you will have to throw it away and buy another. These do not recharge...


Just kidding!

Yeah, but thanks to the mini reactor inside each one, that one charge lasts a long, long time.

Just kidding too!
 

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Got mine yesterday. Size and shape are awesome. Love that. Complaints- I'm a carto tank guy, and I can't use anything under a 2.5ohm. (single coil) on a full charge without it burning. 2.5ohm-2.8 at the lowest setting (either voltage or wattage) and it is fantastic. It really, really bothers me that, even though I can get a good vape, the setting is nowhere near accurate. My carto tanks with the locking ring, like the Artemus, sometimes don't make contact with the center pin. One more, the threads in the 510 are poor, and made of cheap metal. I don't expect the to last long, but I'm used to using my Sigeleis with stainless steel threads. I do love vaping this little thing though, when I use a higher resistance carto. It's probably the most comfortable, ergonomic APV I've used.

My 510 threads seem to be fine. I would not say the quality of them is poor because I have had many mods with much worse threads than these have.

You may want to try punching another hole on your carto and see if that works better. If you are able to keep the filler wet, it will not burn. Worth a shot.

I too have some of those Royal Smokers in my stash :lol:
 

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Mine does :blink:

If you meant that the battery is not replaceable, that is yet to be seen if we are able to figure a way to do that or not. Either way it is the same as the MVP in regards to not having a replacebale battery. Still a great deal at this price point. Could last for years.

And I do think that most if not all of us realized that fact when we bought these ;)
(Made this point in another thread)
I expect this to last a good 15 months. By then, the next generation rechargable batteries will be ready for market. And with the advance of battery (think the size of a Bic lighter with 5,000 mAh capacity) and circuitry, We'll be ready for the newest device in 2016 when these iSticks are at the end of their service life.

So, look back 15 months ago and what was available (at higher prices!)

900 VV spinners were the rage. Would any of us get one now?

Is there doubt that this iStick will rule this price range for the rest of the year?
 

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Like I said, it's not so much the material (ceramic mesh) as the possibility of ceramic dust being deposited in my poor damaged lungs that gives me pause.... :facepalm:

Are those BVC coils really so much better than the old Aspire BDC coils? Or Kanger BDC coils? I love my Aerotank.

Two things:

Firstly, hiya back namesake plus ya.

I dunno what the screen does. I really have no clue, and I would be interested if/when someone finds out.

:D

Oh say it isn't so! Mine will have had many babies by the 6 month mark. I'm already in for..... ummm...... several. :oops:

:lol:

Yes yes yes. Dr. F, muey Kool. PG/VG, also kool.

Oh yes! The oh-so-fun of THAT debacle!

Let's keep the info comin'.

You do crack me up, Kat, darling! :wub:
 

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I have some RoyalSmokers 2.8-3.2 Ohm in my old stash box in case it's too hot for my regular stuff.
Now just wait.

I have 3 boxes of those, used to be my everyday vape on a 5 volt mod. Do you have enough 3 mL syringes to replace the tubes....:laugh:

I have a box of 3Ω Boge and IKV cartos.

Got rid of my Royal Smokers a long time ago... :p
 

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Hi all!

Just to tell you that the iStick hit the European markets yesterday. It was on-sale in a known seller here in Spain.....and it flew-off the shelves in just some hours....

Luckily, I ordered mine which is expected to arrive next Wednesday, tops....(slow inexpensive courier). As usual, it costed 36€. Usually the USD to Euro change for this things is 1:1, regardless the real change rate, something related to customs and taxes, you know......

Regarding the so-callled 'new-PWM-gate', I'm curious.... In the past, I solved some issues with other VW devices just measuring the voltage output with a voltmeter, over an open dripper. Somebody did that in this manner but it seems that the results weren't conclusive enough.... It seems to me that you're expecting some oscilloscope readings from a trusted technician, namely Phil Busardo.

Well, there is a cheap and easier roundabout strategy: just using an old-fashioned, old-school voltmeter, those with squared coils and a needle pointing to the reading, usually with a mirror behind the needle tip, on the reading chart, to improve the reading and the accuracy. A Pure Analog V-meter. they should read voltage in root mean squared terms, they have to, because of its innards and the foundations of measuring in that way.

I've got one, and I'll get my iStick soon, but in the meantime, just put it (if you have one) over the posts of a dripper, preferrally without wick (the vapours can burn), and get a proper Vrms reading.

It appears that the iStick do not offer Vrms, but Vave or whatsoever.... and it shows that odd parameter on display. Even worse, it uses it for its own internal application of the Ohm's law, according to what I've seen on the net... If that is the case, the power won't be accurate enough (to say it mildly). Power is proportional to the square of Vrms, because of the very definition of the statistics involved, and also the generation of energy (power is energy over time) from the Coulomb's effect....

So if the iStick is using other voltage different than Vrms to calculate power..... bad, their bad! It will fail to adress correct reading of voltage and power in lower settings (when the PWM pulse hits harder with wider gaps) and it will be just correct only on the higher settings (when the PWM is incidental, because at 100 % of output the wave it shows is a plain, flat, DC current. or almost). Using averages instead of cuadratic averages renders higher real wattages because power (and energy unfolded) is proportional to that cuadratic power of voltage, averages for a squared wave have this disadvantage...

And it's a really easy patch from software to fix it......I wonder if the first batch could be fixed over the net....:unsure:
 

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My 510 threads seem to be fine. I would not say the quality of them is poor because I have had many mods with much worse threads than these have.

You may want to try punching another hole on your carto and see if that works better. If you are able to keep the filler wet, it will not burn. Worth a shot.

I too have some of those Royal Smokers in my stash :lol:

Nope, filler is staying wet. Especially with Boge slotted cartos and 60/40, although Nitro single hole cartos feed even 50/50 very well. The threads are poor quality compared to the stainless threads in my Sigeleis, I guaranty it. I really, really just wish the output actually correlated with the setting. I do enjoy using this thing...If they had a bucking capability (like they should) I'd be extremely happy with it.
 

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Hi all!

Just to tell you that the iStick hit the European markets yesterday. It was on-sale in a known seller here in Spain.....and it flew-off the shelves in just some hours....

Luckily, I ordered mine which is expected to arrive next Wednesday, tops....(slow inexpensive courier). As usual, it costed 36€. Usually the USD to Euro change for this things is 1:1, regardless the real change rate, something related to customs and taxes, you know......

Regarding the so-callled 'new-PWM-gate', I'm curious.... In the past, I solved some issues with other VW devices just measuring the voltage output with a voltmeter, over an open dripper. Somebody did that in this manner but it seems that the results weren't conclusive enough.... It seems to me that you're expecting some oscilloscope readings from a trusted technician, namely Phil Busardo.

Well, there is a cheap and easier roundabout strategy: just using an old-fashioned, old-school voltmeter, those with squared coils and a needle pointing to the reading, usually with a mirror behind the needle tip, on the reading chart, to improve the reading and the accuracy. A Pure Analog V-meter. they should read voltage in root mean squared terms, they have to, because of its innards and the foundations of measuring in that way.

I've got one, and I'll get my iStick soon, but in the meantime, just put it (if you have one) over the posts of a dripper, preferrally without wick (the vapours can burn), and get a proper Vrms reading.

It appears that the iStick do not offer Vrms, but Vave or whatsoever.... and it shows that odd parameter on display. Even worse, it uses it for its own internal application of the Ohm's law, according to what I've seen on the net... If that is the case, the power won't be accurate enough (to say it mildly). Power is proportional to the square of Vrms, because of the very definition of the statistics involved, and also the generation of energy (power is energy over time) from the Coulomb's effect....

So if the iStick is using other voltage different than Vrms to calculate power..... bad, their bad! It will fail to adress correct reading of voltage and power in lower settings (when the PWM pulse hits harder with wider gaps) and it will be just correct only on the higher settings (when the PWM is incidental, because at 100 % of output the wave it shows is a plain, flat, DC current. or almost). Using averages instead of cuadratic averages renders higher real wattages because power (and energy unfolded) is proportional to that cuadratic power of voltage, averages for a squared wave have this disadvantage...

And it's a really easy patch from software to fix it......I wonder if the first batch could be fixed over the net....:unsure:

Wow!!! that is some great information and insight,,,,,Thanks. Hopefully someone on the forum has an analog VM.
 

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Hi all!

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Hey Scaredmice! Welcome to forum! Make yourself at home. :)

Nice 8th post. :D
 
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