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I decided to try something different on my iStick. After researching and reading reviews and looking at setups I decided to give the Beyond Vape Silo Lite a try with BVC coils. This will be my first non Knager tank and I like the idea of a larger capacity tank that will still look good on the iStick and the BVC coils seem the way to go. I went with the Silo for several reasons, one being it has a larger tank than the Nautilus Mini and even though the air flow is not adjustable, the reviews I read seem to indicate it draws very nicely with the BVC coils. I also really like the looks of the Silo Lite on the iStick in the few pictures I have found. I hope this ends up being a good combination.

Still really enjoying the iStick. Only charged it once since Sunday. :)
 

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yeah I think both of my MVP's have died,*rolly eyes* I'll have to order two more iSticks one for Ed of course *lol*

I have to admit I LOVE this little thing even with the tank wobble, it seems fine now with my Protank2 w/air control valve, so that's an interesting turn of events, all day with that one with Port LB in it..and working like a charm, I'll have to recharge it while I sleep ...


I've bought several times from vapeoutlet and NO problems, got this in sooner than they predicted too.
 

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I've wondered myself if some of us are early adopters. Whatever "early" means. I got mine from a B&M shop owner who had it for a couple of weeks before selling it to me. I also don't know how long it sat on the canoe being paddled by a one-armed guy from China (Like my fasttech orders). There's a reviewer that can display a version number (I think) by pressing both arrow buttons. I can't do this.

It's possilble there's some different batches out there with subtle differences.

No member of this forum has said that their iStick shows anything when they press up and down buttons at once, so far.

That means either nobody cares about the PWM-gate, the firmware version or everybody, except TiaVaps so far, received a batch without that capability, unable to show any firmware version (or at least, unable to show it in the same way TiaVapes do).

I'm troubled, puzzled and mesmerized because I cannot decide which case it is.... and before Mr. Busardo gets his numbers, we're doubting which batch he has received.......:facepalm:

If we end up looking like a...es, well, I live in Spain, we've got some strong protective regulations about guarantees and fair advertising. It is doubtful they will serve to anything, and the landscape is blurred enough not to give to the gutter reporters 'yet another vaping scandal', like the 'they sell things out of tax' or 'they perform an unhealthy activity' or 'it is a dangerous unregulated activity' or 'a man almost kicked the bucket because was an avid vaper and he got lipidic pneumonia....'


Strange as it might sound, those headlines have been read here, those and even worse.....:facepalm:

it is, ultimately, yet another case of 'that car was advertised as having more than 100 MPH of top speed, but it barely reaches 85...", or quite the opposite, in fact....:blink:

P.S.: I've been told that only batteries come in a canoe paddled with one-armed guys who are using toothpick to paddle. the rest seems to come by registered air mail. That supposes that, at least in some legs of the trip, our orders fly.....

Let' s not spoil our hopes.....:)
 
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BTW - Did eLeaf ever say Anywhere in their Product Description that the iStick outputs in RMS?

Nope. Nor did they specify average voltage output. But they indicate in the display and supposed calculations that the iStick's voltage output plugs right into Ohm's Law. Which it does not. The Watts displayed on the iStick's screen is not what is dissipating in our coils.

What must be remembered is DC resistance loads have been around 100+ years; from light bulbs to electric motors to ovens & stoves to heaters. The entire NY metropolitan region was originally DC powered, until Mr. Westinghouse's vision beat out Mr. Edison's. ConEd still produces and NYC still consumes copious amounts of DC for elevators and, oh yeah, the largest subway system in the world. DC, unless being transported long distances, is more efficient, potent and easier to work with than AC.

Most of the electrical/physics principals we use today were created using Direct Current. The electrical industries use Vrms when dealing with resistance loads, whether using AC or pulsed DC, for many reasons; not the least of which is so the values we learn from measuring can be easily plugged into formulas like Ohm's Law and Joule's Laws.

It would seem that, a couple of years ago, "PWM-Gate", surrounding the release of the VMAX, settled the vaping industry in line with all the others. Borrowing technology from other industries, why would we try to reinvent the wheel, as some might say, in a square shape? It's ludicrous and makes no sense.

Just my :2c:...
 

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I think some people are really gettin hung up on the RMS issue and writing dissertations like their applying for their doctorate degree. It's a $35 mod for cryin out loud! OK - low voltage vapers are gettin Hot Hits and they don't like that. I get it. However, I still think that the majority of average vapers would love this! I know I do! :2c:
 

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Was anyone else surprised when their stick arrived that it was really THAT tiny? This thing is adorable!
I've learned that everything always looks bigger in video reviews. What put it into perspecitve before I actually got one was a pic of the iStick standing next to a Bic lighter.
 

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You don't. I measured it against two voltmeters, one a serious candidate to just average voltages, another one too, but I was wrong assuming it was capable of RMS mesurements.
And do not forget your RMS-ed taste buds......they do not lie!
The thing is that the iStick is very reliable suppliying volts. Al least on the analogue. Other VW, my DNA30 clon at least, but also others if I watched and understood those videos on Youtube properly, are not so reliable (some drifting away the nominal expected values appears). Remember the Joyetech video (stripped out of the silly bits), in which the measurements were similar to mine....

And I measured over some range....

So the output IS a PWM wave and the voltmeters got the same numerical value as the iStick shows for all its voltage or power range......those voltmeters unable to measure RMS, they get averages instead.....


...that's a 'guilty of all the charges' in my playbook, for me, it confirms the 'PWM-gate'. If another reviewer gets the statistics and resolves that the iStick measures the shown voltages as RMS ones...well, then they received an improved version.



Mine is not, and I'm waiting for an explanation and a possible solution....

I agree completely. The iStick regulates voltage output extremely well but in Vavg.
 

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I think some people are really gettin hung up on the RMS issue and writing dissertations like their applying for their doctorate degree. It's a $35 mod for cryin out loud! OK - low voltage vapers are gettin Hot Hits and they don't like that. I get it. However, I still think that the majority of average vapers would love this! I know I do! :2c:

Im not knockin it cause I love it, but I wonder if that's why it was so cheap. They did begin work on version 2 pretty fast.. Just wondering..
 

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No member of this forum has said that their iStick shows anything when they press up and down buttons at once, so far.

That means either nobody cares about the PWM-gate, the firmware version or everybody, except TiaVaps so far, received a batch without that capability, unable to show any firmware version (or at least, unable to show it in the same way TiaVapes do).

...

This ^^^. I found settings that work well for me, so while I find all this "PWM-gate" stuff mildly interesting, I'm not going to get incensed about it. If it vapes well, everything's good.
 

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No member of this forum has said that their iStick shows anything when they press up and down buttons at once, so far.

That means either nobody cares about the PWM-gate, the firmware version or everybody, except TiaVaps so far, received a batch without that capability, unable to show any firmware version (or at least, unable to show it in the same way TiaVapes do).

I'm troubled, puzzled and mesmerized because I cannot decide which case it is.... and before Mr. Busardo gets his numbers, we're doubting which batch he has received.......:facepalm:

If we end up looking like a...es, well, I live in Spain, we've got some strong protective regulations about guarantees and fair advertising. It is doubtful they will serve to anything, and the landscape is blurred enough not to give to the gutter reporters 'yet another vaping scandal', like the 'they sell things out of tax' or 'they perform an unhealthy activity' or 'it is a dangerous unregulated activity' or 'a man almost kicked the bucket because was an avid vaper and he got lipidic pneumonia....'


Strange as it might sound, those headlines have been read here, those and even worse.....:facepalm:

it is, ultimately, yet another case of 'that car was advertised as having more than 100 MPH of top speed, but it barely reaches 85...", or quite the opposite, in fact....:blink:

P.S.: I've been told that only batteries come in a canoe paddled with one-armed guys who are using toothpick to paddle. the rest seems to come by registered air mail. That supposes that, at least in some legs of the trip, our orders fly.....

Let' s not spoil our hopes.....:)

I've pressed the up and down buttons at the same time and I get no version readout:) That's on 2 Sticks:)
 

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Well I have 2 Isticks and when I push both button nothing happens, Not crying over it still waiting on 3 more to arrive to share in the household. Of course we could always see if we can get the secret squirrels Istick that only reviewers get. The IStick 1.rs version. Version reviewer secret LOL
 
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Have a question for folks with both the MVP 2 and the istick. Since I bought mine last night, I've gotten a few dry hits and I've never had these with my MVP 2 or ego batteries. Then my Aerotank V2 was registering "no coil" when I put it back on the istick. I've been swapping out 2u and 1.5u dual coil tanks.

The issue with "no coil" was solved by a trip back to my local vape shop. Turns out the pin on my Aerotank v2 atomizer was being pushed back up when I put it on the MVP. Simple fix, push the pin back down a bit after pulling it off the MVP.

Regarding the dry hits, he suggested I take the wattage down from 10 to 7.5. Surprisingly, the istick hits great at 7.5W whereas the MVP hits just as good after taking a second or 2 to heat up whereas the istick starts crackling almost instantly.

So my question is why does the istick heat up so quick at 7.5W on a Kanger v2 1.8u dual coil while the MVP takes a couple seconds to get there with the same tank/coil? Thinking it has something to do with how the istick accouts for coil resistance while the MVP 2 doesn't.

Thanks
 
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