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Because Evolv only supplies .5A charging boards, Mamu has always played it safe, bypassing the chipset and running the leads from her preferred 1A charging boards directly to the battery(s). Vaping-while-charging is only possible if the chipset cuts the charging circuit when the device is fired. That is why there must be sufficient voltage in the battery to fire the device in a V-W-C situation.

ETA: If I wasn't clear, the battery is only charging when we aren't vaping. :)

If all the device companies were to use the same overall engineering principals as Mamu, I would feel a lot safer!! With the buttons that don't fire every time, and failing connectors, it would seem the "good enough" principal is at work here.

Two items to consider, many of the new mini mods are using a Lipo battery, not as benign as our 18650 IMR, and the majority of problems occur during charging. I would much rather have a second mod to use while one is charging. And if you are draining a 2200 mAh battery faster than one will charge....put the blasted mod down once in a while....:)
 

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If all the device companies were to use the same overall engineering principals as Mamu, I would feel a lot safer!! With the buttons that don't fire every time, and failing connectors, it would seem the "good enough" principal is at work here.

Two items to consider, many of the new mini mods are using a Lipo battery, not as benign as our 18650 IMR, and the majority of problems occur during charging. I would much rather have a second mod to use while one is charging. And if you are draining a 2200 mAh battery faster than one will charge....put the blasted mod down once in a while....:)
Not as benign in what way?
 

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The Li-po and Li-Mn are different chemistry, the Li-po will vent much more violently than a Li-Mn might. Both are reasonably safe when used properly.
Well that makes me a little nervous. But I don't push mine. I'm a low wattage vaper. I try to be careful and only charge it with the cord and wall plug it came with. Although plugging it into my computer at work is tempting sometimes.

I've heard that you should let a battery "rest" after charging. Is that true, especially with the istick?
 

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Any coupon codes for the istick at vapenw?
Read a post on ECF yesterday that said rockymountainvapor.com was having a sale. Never bought from them but I have not heard anything negative about them. Late last night I ordered an iStick 30W Full Kit using NEWYEAR15 coupon code and got the iStick for $31.50 with free shipping from Colorado. I have 9 other iSticks and this price was by far the best.
 

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Read a post on ECF yesterday that said rockymountainvapor.com was having a sale. Never bought from them but I have not heard anything negative about them. Late last night I ordered an iStick 30W Full Kit using NEWYEAR15 coupon code and got the iStick for $31.50 with free shipping from Colorado. I have 9 other iSticks and this price was by far the best.
Daaaaaaaamn you! I had been doing so good, holding out on the 30w. This caught me at a weak moment and I've ordered a black 30W. Crappity crap!
 

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daaaaaaaamn you! I had been doing so good, holding out on the 30w. This caught me at a weak moment and i've ordered a black 30w. Crappity crap!

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congratulations! :)
 

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Daaaaaaaamn you! I had been doing so good, holding out on the 30w. This caught me at a weak moment and I've ordered a black 30W. Crappity crap!
Sorry for tempting you with this deal but I think you will enjoy your new toy. The 30 watts and being able to fire down to .45 ohms is sweet
 

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How come?

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Many, especially those with larger hands, prefer the micro USB port at the bottom on these tiny devices. There really is no good place on the sides for the port that allows a good hand-hold while plugged in. In other words, if the port were on the side, the attached cable would not allow my big hand a good purchase on the device to vape-while-charging.
 

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Many, especially those with larger hands, prefer the micro USB port at the bottom on these tiny devices. There really is no good place on the sides for the port that allows a good hand-hold while plugged in. In other words, if the port were on the side, the attached cable would not allow my big hand a good purchase on the device to vape-while-charging.

Not good for those of us that can palm a basketball. :)
 

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Many, especially those with larger hands, prefer the micro USB port at the bottom on these tiny devices. There really is no good place on the sides for the port that allows a good hand-hold while plugged in. In other words, if the port were on the side, the attached cable would not allow my big hand a good purchase on the device to vape-while-charging.

Exactly. If it were on the side somewhere, you'd have a cable sticking out between your fingers somewhere as you were trying to grip it.
 

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The Li-po and Li-Mn are different chemistry, the Li-po will vent much more violently than a Li-Mn might. Both are reasonably safe when used properly.

Li-Po is just another construction for the layers on the batteries. It could be Li-Co, Li-Mn and others underneath, it refers mostly to the insulator electrode films between anode and cathode, which is different than standard 18XXX cylindrical, but the anode-cathode couple remains.

What is more, almost every mobile and tablet in the planet now runs on Li-Po planar, with batteries more or less rectangle-shaped, but with Li-Co chemistry, because it provides the biggest capacity even though with much less current available. I bet that our vaping devices with Li-Po really are also Li-Mn, like RC batteries, just in Li-Po fashion because now they’re starting to get competitive manufacture prices and they are suitable for the final application.

The thing about Li-Po is really two things:
* They swell under certain circumstances, as they lack of a rigid container and under heavy loads (charging or discharging) there is some gas build-up, transitory, and it cannot be just vented. They battery might be OK, so the manufacturer of the device should provide enough internal space to let the battery swell up without risking neither the appliance or the battery: this might ruin any size advantage for Li-Po geometry, also taking into consideration capacities (like it happens on the Hana vs. Hana mini mod). Our iSticks have a foam container for the 'R18650D' Li-Po precisely for this reason.
* They cannot get punctured, cut or just pressed in any way: they are really fragile compared to normal cylindrical lithium, they depend on the container to provide a secure environment for them.......(charging currents, discharging currents, voltages granted in use and physical stability). In our iSticks, that 'safe environment' is provided by the chipset (for currents and voltages) and the aluminium-extruded case, which is really sturdy.

Other than those, they are not a piece of C4-dynamite, you know!
 

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aldenf does have a good way of making "battery" talk almost understandable for the average person(and yes, Kat--Canadians). Myself, I'm lucky to have started vaping with a solid knowledge of battery principles.

My thread from 03-12-2011 illustrates this...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/169622-510-battery-should-i-carry-disassembled-save-charge.html


Your brilliance dazzles me.





The silicon covers are now available at the Eleaf.US website for $1.99 each!. And they finally updated the page to purchase the 30W from there as well.

Good find, but $5.99 flat shipping, yikes.

My thoughts exactly, sprocket.:(




So how bout $1.15 each, $2.99 (faster) shipping (free over 50 bucks), and a coupon code for 8% off? :)



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