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Just catching up here. The Aspire BVC controversy is why I decided to start building my own coils. I want to know what I'm inhaling.
My first rebuildable was a Lemo Drop. I paid 35 ish for it which is about what everyone charges except for that outstanding deal at ovale. I'm guessing they suddenly felt they needed to be rid of them with the Lemo 2 coming up. I'm also guessing that is close to their cost from eleaf.
I've heard that eleaf only replaces products that are purchased from their store. So you get that support from eleaf for your extra 10 bucks spent at their store. It seems that eleaf is selling to distributors at a large discount but also leaving any DOA or defective items up to the distributor to correct. In an environment with so many clones running around this makes sense to me.
My first rebuildable was a Lemo Drop. I paid 35 ish for it which is about what everyone charges except for that outstanding deal at ovale. I'm guessing they suddenly felt they needed to be rid of them with the Lemo 2 coming up. I'm also guessing that is close to their cost from eleaf.
I've heard that eleaf only replaces products that are purchased from their store. So you get that support from eleaf for your extra 10 bucks spent at their store. It seems that eleaf is selling to distributors at a large discount but also leaving any DOA or defective items up to the distributor to correct. In an environment with so many clones running around this makes sense to me.
Yes yellow, but it still looks a little orange to me, the washer looks red...
I think the two small squares represent where it fits into a channel on the pin.
Oh yeah? Well I still say that dress is white and gold....
In Spanish forums I've done some sort of practical joke... Take:
I) A rayon towel for elephants.
II) A diesel direct injection pump. Alternatively, a High Performance Liquid Cromatography (HPLC) pump.
Iii) A resistive metal capillary tube.... As we can pull out all the stops - this is either a dream and a practical joke, remember? -, let it be good old platinum... No silica involved...[emoji6]
The details could be worked out on-the-go, as we are still dreaming... Do not ask too much for the 'elephant towel', as Freud can not be consulted... [emoji6]
Tapatalking..Mind those lampposts!
As far as I know, you can identify the new ones with the air holes. They are drilled out a little bigger than the old. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please. This subject has me looking for a change again, unless I just go ahead and stockpile from World of Vape.That's good, yikes. Hopefully the Nautilus and replacement coils I got will be usable then.
There are different kinds of silica.
One kind is OK for vaping--and it's been discussed on this forum for quite some time, long before Aspire introduced their fiberglass/ceramic wicking material.
The other kind, the crystalline silica, or fiberglass, also often referred to as ceramic, originally used by Aspire in their BVC coils, is the kind of silica that has caused the controversy.
Please read this post by tenshi, and this one by Boden, and [URL="http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-vaping/377764-dangers-silica-wicks-5.html#post9181477"]this one by Kurt, [/URL]our resident chemist and a person I trust completely in all matters related to chemistry.
More on the subject:
http://srs.unm.edu/industrial-hygiene/media/docs/silica.pdf
"Amorphous Silica: Multiple studies have found amorphous silica to be biologically inert when
ingested and inhaled, with the exception of extruded fiberglass and ceramic fibers (which have been
designated as carcinogens by the National Toxicology Program), which are hazardous due to their
very small size and their high length to width aspect ratio. Because of this inertness, the US Food
and Drug Administration permits the use of amorphous silica (not fiberglass or ceramic fibers!) in food
and medicine. "
Just for the record.
So much for stockpiling these.
As far as I know, you can identify the new ones with the air holes. They are drilled out a little bigger than the old. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please. This subject has me looking for a change again, unless I just go ahead and stockpile from World of Vape.
You are wrong. Per Aspire, the coils with larger holes predate the cotton filler. Don't ask my why. But the new coils will eventually be all cotton, at some point.
Aspire Support: •View topic - Different revisions of BVC coils?
"Doubts and fears are due to the lack of cognition."
So much for stockpiling these.
They can be rebuilt.
And they also can be used safely, I believe, if you follow Aspire's directions--do not clean, dry burn or otherwise mess with them. Use them for a while, at safe wattages, keep them wet (you really don't want to burn that filler) and discard when flavor and vapor begin to go South.
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Yeah, that design mock up on their site is just not right. It's looks like someone in design used photoshop, not someone from engineering using Auto-CAD.
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You are wrong. Per Aspire, the coils with larger coils predate the cotton filler. Don't ask my why. But the new coils will eventually be all cotton, at some point.
Aspire Support: View topic - Different revisions of BVC coils?
"Doubts and fears are due to the lack of cognition."
They can be rebuilt.
And they also can be used safely, I believe, if you follow Aspire's directions--do not clean, dry burn or otherwise mess with them. Use them for a while, at safe wattages, keep them wet (you really don't want to burn that filler) and discard when flavor and vapor begin to go South.
Thanks for the info Katy! Just wondering if you knew how to tell which ones are new. I couldn't find an answer on there. I know World of Vape actually tells you on their site (however the box is still the same labeling), but did you see anything written on the Aspire site that they are going to be labeled 'cotton'?
Dog handlers like me of courseIs that cotton gathered from Rodesian Ridgebacks?
Those things can take down Baboons on their own, so I'd like to know who's got the stuff to gather the cotton.
Inspects, think of it this way - authorized dealers and authorized franchisee stores are completely different business models. A franchisee of the "parent business" is still part of the same entity. An authorized dealer is an independent business that does not want to COMPETE with a supplier to sell the same products.
Here's an example from my personal experience:
A shop that I frequent is a gift/bird enthusiast franchise. The bird items in this store are provided by the parent company of the franchise and prices are consistent throughout the chain on those items. The gift items, however, vary from franchise to franchise and are selected by the franchise owner. My particular store was carrying Yankee Candles as an authorized dealer for Yankee Candles (independent of the franchise structure). All was fine until Yankee Candle started opening up their own stores all over the U.S. Essentially, Yankee Candle was directly competing with their dealers. My store quit carrying them for this reason.
Eleaf doesn't want to be seen as a COMPETITOR to their authorized dealers. When viewed from the yankee candle example above, can you now see why it is more advantageous to price eleaf's items at MSRP rather than discounting and undercutting their own distributors? Not many dealers would carry their products if they had to compete with the manufacturer and could not make $$ on the line. And, eleaf can reach a broader customer base by distributing their products to many dealers, rather than relying solely on selling directly to the consumer.
Just my
Thank You Kent C for the link to this report!
I had seen and read this report before
I am by no means an expert in chemistry so this report was a little hard to decipher LoL
I used to work for SGS doing some occasional inspection work related to marine engineering so I know they are excellent
This report says that only some very small amounts of lead were detected but that
The following sample(s) was/were submitted and identified on behalf of the clients as : Fiberglass paper
Conclusion :
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Based on the performed tests on submitted sample(s), the results of Lead,
Mercury, Cadmium, Hexavalent chromium, Polybrominated biphenyls (PBBs),
Polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs) comply with the limits as set by RoHS
Directive 2011/65/EU Annex II; recasting 2002/95/EC.
And says nothing about fiberglass or any polymer being present other then the words the company called or named the sample
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The following sample(s) was/were submitted and identified on behalf of the clients as : Fiberglass paper
.
Other than
The Positive finding of
Lead (Pb) 30
Which is a very small amount of lead
on all the other findings ND =n Nothing Else Was Detected!
SO I HAVE SOME DOUBTS ABOUT FIBERGLASS BEING PRESENT ON ONE HAND
ON the other hand I don't really know if there is fiberglass present or NOT?
However I guess its better to be safe than sorry and assume there might be!
Its unfortunate the manufacturer could not indicate this exactly other than a general statement of the manufacturing process of this white ceramic material
I could decipher very little from the report but had the link easily available since I just brought it up myself.
I know SGS was brought in by the Chinese over the lead toy situation and pretty much brought that chapter to a close - despite the continuing reports of it to demonize the Chinese by some. A 'consortium' of sorts - Joyetech, Kanger, Vision and others began using SGS as their final quality control lab a while back - good move, imo.
I'm putting together a parts list.
It's a start...
Can I be a beta tester huh huh can I can i?
Still a bunch to figure out. tank system, gauge of tubing, braided tubing or stainless hardline, delay circuitry to the pump so the coil can heat first, deck layout, etc...
I have been thinking this through for a few months, but don't have the capital to get the parts I need and a metal 3d printer, or CNC machine to build the beta. I have access to a 3d printer that can produce in PEEK though.
I have been thinking this through for a few months, but don't have the capital to get the parts I need and a metal 3d printer, or CNC machine to build the beta. I have access to a 3d printer that can produce in PEEK though.
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