People do get addicted to gum nicotine but for some reason (Stomach problems ?) most cannot use them on a regular basis.
Electronic ciggarettes are not what you think
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People do get addicted to gum nicotine but for some reason (Stomach problems ?) most cannot use them on a regular basis.
Try some caffeine in the morning coffee.
It is almost as good as nic for clearing your mind
and allowing us to focus and relax.
No tar, no 4000 chemicals= No harm no foul.
The day my doctor told me I had emphysema was the same day I quit smoking thanks to these vaping lifesavers. They are a godsend not a curse.
"We smoke for the nic and die from the tar"
No dying from vapes. Cheers.
It is almost as good as nic for clearing your mind
and allowing us to focus and relax.
No tar, no 4000 chemicals= No harm no foul.
The day my doctor told me I had emphysema was the same day I quit smoking thanks to these vaping lifesavers. They are a godsend not a curse.
"We smoke for the nic and die from the tar"
No dying from vapes. Cheers.
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I've read that there are 40 million people vaping worldwide. Vaping has been round for about 8 years. Where are the reports of doctors treating illnesses caused by using ecigs? May be there can be problems or may be there can be problems with certain people but it's pretty clear the risks are far lower than smoking. And I'm avoiding the cost of cigarettes which was $3,000 a year for me. My cost of DIY ingredients for a year is $30. Will I live longer? Time is money.
Of course vaping has a stronger appeal than nicotine gum etc. but that's how it works. As a smoker, I could also see an appeal of it not being designed as a short-term transitional substitute but something suitable for continued enjoyment. Many have gone on to quit vaping, and also many have reported it is easier to quit vaping temporarily than that is for cigarettes. I had a day recently I couldn't (or didn't) vape and instead of making a beeline for it as soon as I got home as I surely would have as a smoker, I actually forgot about it for a few minutes.
Wow..... education would help you.
Seems another reminder is in order.
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I disagree with all your statements and I have tried all the pharmaceutical items and none of them helped me quit smoking burning tobacco except ecigs. I have my opinion and you are entitled to yours. Some facts to back up your stance would be appropriate if you want to be taken seriously. Oh, and welcome to the forum.
If the OP decides to post again I would enjoy a conversation about how vaping not only helped me stop smoking, it also helped me decrease my nic usage from 18mg to .25 mg.
I don't know how this forum ever made it this long without OPS like the one that posted. I think I'm gonna run right out and throw a couple thousand dollars worth of equipment out. I have heard the word, rejoice.
Damn, most censored thread I have seen, makes me wonder what I missed.....
With regards to the OP, yes, I am fully aware that am still addicted to nicotine, and also to other less tangible parts of the act of smoking, hand to mouth, lung feel, etc. I am OK with that. Would I rather not be addicted to anything, sure I would, but alas I am a mere mortal. I am addicted to caffeine too, excuse me while I go make myself another espresso. I learned in another realm (another addiction), that the key question, at least for me, is "does this addiction make my life unmanageable". Smoking tobacco certainly was because of the health affects that I personally was experiencing. I have yet to experience any effects from vaping that would make me answer yes to that key question.
For me, vaping is all about "harm reduction". I am not saying it is harmless, the jury is still out on that, I suspect inhaling anything into your lungs other than clean air probably has some level of harm associated with it.
However, I am absolutely confident that vaping is far less harmful than smoking tobacco. My own body tells me this, and my doctor agrees.
With regards to the OP, yes, I am fully aware that am still addicted to nicotine, and also to other less tangible parts of the act of smoking, hand to mouth, lung feel, etc. I am OK with that. Would I rather not be addicted to anything, sure I would, but alas I am a mere mortal. I am addicted to caffeine too, excuse me while I go make myself another espresso. I learned in another realm (another addiction), that the key question, at least for me, is "does this addiction make my life unmanageable". Smoking tobacco certainly was because of the health affects that I personally was experiencing. I have yet to experience any effects from vaping that would make me answer yes to that key question.
For me, vaping is all about "harm reduction". I am not saying it is harmless, the jury is still out on that, I suspect inhaling anything into your lungs other than clean air probably has some level of harm associated with it.
However, I am absolutely confident that vaping is far less harmful than smoking tobacco. My own body tells me this, and my doctor agrees.
I wonder if folks realize just how silly it sounds when they go on about how evil and highly addictive nicotine is but then suggest using gum or patches.
Sorry, but this statement (taken directly from the FDA) immediately invalidates your credibility. You may or may not have made some good points but you've lost all respect, so your points are immediately scoffed at. Would you take anyone seriously who stated that "one of the reasons you shouldn't drink water is because it's used in battery acid"?
After reading the OP I said to myself <<< self >>> this is gonna get real interesting so I fixed a huge cup of coffee!!!
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I have to say even though WE as vapers don't believe a lot of what the OP said, there are those out there that wholeheartedly do. 2 weeks ago when my mom was in the hospital, much of this entire spiel is what I either overheard or what was said directly to me.
I understand educating the ill informed is supposed to be helpful yet at the same time we the vaper have to take into account it's not easy to change others perspective or perceptions.
Most of what they preach about regarding the dangers of ecigs is what they've gossiped with each other about- no real research to educate themselves was done on their part.
Well alright then....Welcome to ECF. Now that you have had your mind filled with lies by outrageous news articles you are now at a place where you will hear the truth about vaping and hopefully you will open your mind to the truth. It is sad that there are folks out there that truly do believe all the lies about this life saving miracle....just follow the money
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