Just do it...QUIT!

[starsflashgordon]

EXACTLY! There's no doubt the nicotine addiction is mostly in my head but, the elation doing without it is mostly in yours. That's my point! Now you get it. If I find elation in being free from an addiction, that's the way it's supposed to be. Thank you for re-inforcing my exact point.

(P.S. Nicotine is a stimulant, not a depressant, and your "relaxation" comes from satisfying the craving your previous vape created. That's how fast nicotine leaves the body and how quickly you need to get another hit.)

 

[Kay1959]

I'm glad the Allen Carr book worked for you! It didn't do very much for me at all...geez, guess I must have read it wrong...atleast that's what Allen Carr would say. Anyway, best of luck to you in YOUR endevors! Me, I'll stick to vaping 0 nicotine, until I decide I want to quit vaping.

 

[KDude]

Nicotine is the least of my worries.

 

[starsflashgordon]

Congrats on 0 nicotine. I wish I could have done it that way, but I'm at 36 and that's still not enough. The book is the only way I can do it. The more I vape, the more nicotine I want.

 

[starsflashgordon]

Yes, congrats. I, too, have smoked for a long time...more than 40 years (18 to 62)...and, yes, the e-cig was a godsend for me, too. I was euphoric when I got my first EVO! Now I'm tired of worrying about vaping so much...I use 36 nicotine all the time... and I want to just get away from nicotine. Yes, I am glad for you...and no, it's not an ad. I only discovered the book when I was watching Ellen DeGeneres on YouTube and she did a bit about the Allen Carr book. Congrats on your freedom, too!

 

[chewy]

I quit cigs and moved to the e-cig, usd one for about a year and then quit for 6 months. I have a very addictive personality but even say at month 5 of being without nicotine I am more relaxed now that I have started vaping again. My point being even after being off nicotine something about it makes me a calmer person and I think it's safe to say I was past random cravings at 5 months. All things considered in my mind nicotine is similar to caffine and if it make me more tolerable to the rest of the world and the rest of the world more tolerable to me, why the hell not continue to vape?

 

[sze5003]

The truth is nicotine is a drug. Its more addicting most say than heroine. But Vaping has made me feel 100% better than smoking and I mean mentally and physically. I used to smoke after I ate breakfast, walk to the car and felt like I was going to pass out because of how tired and heavy all those toxins in cigarettes make you feel. I'm glad you quit that way.

I also quit for 6 months cold turkey but I enjoy the feeling of that crazy craving headache going away during a stressful time. When I started vaping, I was using the e-cig all the time. As months went by, I started using it maybe 2-3 times a day. Compare that to half a pack a day, that is a lot less. As I continued, my cravings died slowly and so did the habit. I just vape because it is convenient for me to take one or two drags sometimes and go back to what I'm doing.

I started with 18mg and then went to 12mg. After a month or two, 12mg mellowed out and I was no longer getting the nicotine high you get when you smoke. That is how I lowered my usage to a point that I didn't even feel the need to take my batteries or cartos with me. I could go a whole day, 2 days, hours on end without using it.

Its a slow breaking habit and each person has their own way I suppose. If you want to quit you will do it, but vaping really helps. And you are not taking in other chemicals that destroy your insides. It has not taken over my life, I smoked because I liked smoking, I enjoyed blowing out smoke, the nicotine just made it better which eventually hooked us all. Its all a perspective really.

To be honest I have been drinking coffee since 17 and that is one thing I can not go without, its automatic every morning. It keeps me awake. Of course I can always drink something else and I do, but I always prefer coffee if I need to keep up. Mixing the two can make you feel more dependent I suppose, but still somewhat a habit as well as vaping/smoking may be.

 

[base234]

Carr's book is great. I've read it. We vapers should read it and substitute the word smoker with the word vaper...oh, wait...vaping isn't killing millions of people like smoking is...oh, never mind...

 

[thevapepastor]

I've read the book and even got the iphone app...yes there's an app for that!
His principals are true.
But what the original poster is missing is the fact that some of us enjoy the act of vaping, the gadgetry, the hobby, the over all taste and experience of relaxing and enjoying a good vape.
Wether or not the relief we get from vaping is really just the relief of the nicotine craving being curved, it's still relaxing none the less.
I have been nicotine free several times for various periods of time, and yeah i felt good, but I still missed the "smoking" experience. I literally felt like a part of who I was was missing. I have smoked for 15 years and I use to pray that God would make a way for me to enjoy it without it killing me.
God answers prayers.
And I can say that I feel as good now that I am vaping as I did when I was 100% nic free. I believe it's the removal of all of the other crap that's in cigs that cause the freedom and clarity.
Yes it is addicting, but it's not a murderous addiction and some of us have no desire to stop.
When you think about it...
Nicotine is not nearly as bad as the unknown chemicals that are in our processed foods...

P.S. Conrgats to those who choose to be nic free...I will take any decent mods you might not be needing now.

 

[mistinthewoods]

OMG, mistinthewoods, i just checked out your web link and your work is breathtaking. Love all the items shown, but *really* love the e-cig products. Thanks for bringing such beauty to the products we use everyday. You are truly gifted

Wow. Thanks a lot! You are very kind.

***It takes only three days for nicotine to be completely out of your body. Nicotine leaves the body rapidly...that's why you have to continue vaping one after another.
Just because the substance is out of your bloodstream does not mean that the chemical conditioning is no longer taking place in your brain. The addiction is from the pleasure centers being conditioned to crave a substance. This can go on for a VERY long time and can be triggered by stress or other stimuli much further down the road. This is why an alcoholic is an alcoholic for life.
toxins in cigarettes do not make it addictive...only the nicotine is addictive. Otherwise, we'd be addicted to sianide, phermaldahyde, and many other toxins. Did you smoke cigarettes to get your sianide hit? Vaping 0 nicotine is fantastic! That's wonderful. You are free from nicotine. Like I said, the habit is in your head. Yes. I was addicted to the toxins that are added to tobacco. So are you. Why do you think they add formaldehyde to cigarette tobacco? For the flavor? These tobacco companies have had teams of chemists working on making cigarettes more addictive for decades and these added toxins is how they do it. Who the hell is Allen Carr anyhow and what does he know about me or anyone else?
You're obviously not an expert in addiction so I'm not sure where you get off telling other people what they should or shouldn't do. Allen Carr smoked five packs a day...he knew more about nicotine addiction...and you than you obviously do. No. This is where you are at your biggest kind of wrong. I beat my addiction to cigarettes without the help of Mr. Carr, or you for that matter. What I take offense at is people telling others what to do or what not to do based on their own narrow views. I find you approach abrasive and your basis for this approach fundamentally flawed.
Nonetheless, congrats on being nicotine-free. Enjoy your 0-nic vaping. If I could do it, I would do it like you did, but I can't. I'm on 36-nic, and it's still not enough and I'm tired of wasting my time on looking for my next nicotine fix. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just stating facts, that's all. Thanks, mudhill! And, look at all the posts in "how much time do you..." People are vaping more than they smoked. It's nicotine addiction. That's the pure and simple truth. Also, nicotine constricts your blood vessels and raises blood pressure, not to mention heart rates. But, again, congrats on being nicotine-free.

Thank you.
Ecigs don't work for everybody because everybody is DIFFERENT. I would never suggest that you should continue to vape because it's the ONLY way to go based on the fact that it was the only thing that worked for me. However, in my short two and a half years of being immersed in this scene I have observed that for every one person that ecigs do NOT help, there seems to be scores of those who swear their lives were saved by them. That's why I take offense at your assertion that everyone should stop vaping. Vaping is a very good thing. If it didn't take for you I guess I'm sorry but I just don't like people trying to tell me what's best for me. Just ask any Jehovah's Witnesses that have ever made the mistake of knocking on my door.

I just wanted to add this point.
In MY view the whole reason to quit smoking is to stop doing the harm to your lungs and heart (among other things) and from everything I've read vaped nic is about as addictive as caffeine and has a similar physiological effect. Nobody seems to be jumping on any "STOP DRINKING COFFEE" bandwagons so, in my view, if you've given up the carbonized toxins in smoke you've pretty much satisfied the goal of removing the threat from your life. Who cares if you are still getting nic if the substance is as benign as caffein?
I tapered my nic down bit by bit over a year and a half just to see how hard it would be to do. It was surprisingly easy. I have read posts from many other people who have done the same and many more who are in the process.
Funny, it seemed to me that after I quit inhaling smoke and all of the crap that's in it, giving up nic was a fairly easy, albeit dragged out, process.

 

[JENerationX]

Wether or not the relief we get from vaping is really just the relief of the nicotine craving being curved, it's still relaxing none the less.
And I can say that I feel as good now that I am vaping as I did when I was 100% nic free. I believe it's the removal of all of the other crap that's in cigs that cause the freedom and clarity.
Yes it is addicting, but it's not a murderous addiction and some of us have no desire to stop.
When you think about it...
Nicotine is not nearly as bad as the unknown chemicals that are in our processed foods...

AMEN!!!!!!!

Thank you.
Ecigs don't work for everybody because everybody is DIFFERENT. I would never suggest that you should continue to vape because it's the ONLY way to go based on the fact that it was the only thing that worked for me. However, in my short two and a half years of being immersed in this scene I have observed that for every one person that ecigs do NOT help, there seems to be scores of those who swear their lives were saved by them. That's why I take offense at your assertion that everyone should stop vaping. Vaping is a very good thing. If it didn't take for you I guess I'm sorry but I just don't like people trying to tell me what's best for me. Just ask any Jehovah's Witnesses that have ever made the mistake of knocking on my door.

AMEN AGAIN!!!!!!

I have severe asthma among a host of other things, and my Dr. is ecstatic that I'm vaping. I asked him if I should be concerned with cutting down my nicotine or quitting entirely. He said no, I've reduced the potential harm 99% and if my current nic level is keeping me from panic attacks and anxiety, he sees no reason I can't vape for the rest of my life.

Feel free to enjoy your nic free life, but I'll be buried with a PV in my hand.... smiling all the way.

 

[DPLongo22]

Who asked you, anyway?

Hi, I bought my first e-cig in 2009. I was smoke-free for more than a year with the e-cig, but I was still addicted to nicotine. When all three of my batteries died at the same time, I ran to Casey's and bought a carton of cigarettes...and I was back to smoking tobacco again. Felt terrible for the next two years. When I discovered that e-cig cartomizers were available and the batteries were so much improved from 2009, I returned to e-cigs. There's no difference from cigarettes except that I'm not inhaling carcinogens. But, I'm still addicted to nicotine. Instead of spending my waking hours worried about the next cigarette, I now spend my waking hours wondering when the cartos will run out, where'd I put the e-cig, when the battery will die, do I have backup batteries, etc....nicotine STILL controls my life, just like cigarettes did. The nicotine brings on anxiety...and the constant dinking around with the e-cigs is ridiculous. Buy Allan Carr's "The Easy Way to Quit Smoking" USA edition, and just quit nicotine. I want it out of my life. It takes up too much time and the addiction is, of course, never ending. I'm going to quit it all and enjoy all those extra hours that thinking about e-cigs and getting nicotine that I will not need to waste anymore. When I quit cigarettes and nicotine, I felt so GOOD! Calm, peaceful, confident and so happy with myself. Tomorrow night, I'm rereading Allan Carr's book and this time, I'm getting all the nicotine out of my system (97% of it is gone just from sleeping all night!) The nicotine cravings don't hurt, they're not painful, and when you realize they last only a few seconds, it's not hard to become nicotine-free in just three days. The rest is all in your head...the HABIT. Yes, you're not inhaling the SMOKE, but you're inhaling and feeding the addiction. I can't believe all the time people spend here just talking about it. If cigarettes created a mega-million dollar industry, then so did e-cigs. You can't stop a nicotine addiction by feeding your addiction the nicotine through an e-cig. You're simply buying into the same trap that analogs put you in. It's like an alcoholic quitting Scotch, and replacing it with beer! I want to put it all out of my mind, experience again the elation of being nicotine-free and living life like all the others who don't even think about it...well, except to feel sorry for those of us with this addiction. After a year of trying to fake my way out of addiction with e-cigs, it's time to just quit nicotine all together. I have to admit, when I quit feeding my addiction with e-cigs, I felt absolutely great...euphoric...I was FREE! Then I purchased more e-cig paraphenalia. Now,this weekend, I'm re-reading Allan Carr's book on Friday, and on Saturday morning, I again will be 97% nicotine free...and every day after that, I will have no desire whatsoever for nicotine when I use the book's suggestions. Best wishes to all of you who are still addicted now to e-cigs. Do yourself a favor, and just QUIT nicotine. You will feel wonderful.​

 

[nanovapr]

If 36 mg is still not enough for the OP, then surely better devices would help with that. However you are determined to quit it all. You might offer your PVs to someone who needs them in the PIF forum.

 

[thinkingaboutit]

The truth is nicotine is a drug. Its more addicting most say than heroine.

For the sake of clarity...is this the "..... nicotine" like in a cig, or nicotine? The comparison to ...... is something I have only seen when talking about cigs.

 

[Tramd]

Actually, the alcohol is in the Scotch just as it is in the beer...and the nicotine is in the cigarette just as it is in the e-cig. Thank you for the good wishes to quit nicotine. Technically, the reason you enjoy the e-cig is because when you start withdrawing for the previous vape, the next vape simply resupplies the need for nicotine, and it feels good to not be withdrawing. Nicotine leaves the body very quickly; hence the reason for continuous vaping...replenishing the nicotine. Wouldn't it be wonderful to not be addicted at all?

Well to be fair, not everyone who smokes is addicted to nicotine.

 

[DPLongo22]

So is caffeine and (THANK GOD!) that's legal. There are also some indications that nicotine may help fight against the protein & enzymes that cause Alzheimer's Disease.

And let's discuss Ambien if we want to talk about dangerous drugs. But that's not why we're here.

So, quit if you wish; vape if you wish; but try not to smoke.

The truth is nicotine is a drug. Its more addicting most say than heroine.

 

[Jonner]

I enjoy nicotine, caffeine, alcohol, fried foods, cheese, and various other sundries, and probably will until the day I die. What's life without some vices? Boring.

 

[charmed412]

In October, I will celebrate (yes celebrate) two years of vaping. I have read the book....heck I even had the game on my Nintendo DS (yep there is one) and it didn't work. I did not start vaping to quit smoking. I started vaping so I could wouldn't have to go outside at work to smoke. But the happy consequence of vaping was that I quit smoking. Imagine that! and my oncologist is thrilled that I have quit smoking and started vaping instead.

Yes, vaping has become a hobby and a lifestyle for me. It isn't just about the nicotine any more. I enjoy doing it...heck I love doing it! And it has added to my life in so many more ways than helping with an "addiciton." If I wasn't a vaper, I wouldn't have met my fiance (vapey twitterverse). I wouldn't not have met my best friends in the world because I met them all here on ECF, on twitter, and on VapeTV. These wonderful people give me so much more support in every aspect of my life than anyone ever has. I truly believe in my heart that I would not have beaten my cancer this time without the loving support of these people.

I am sorry that vaping isn't working for you and I hope that the book helps you, but vaping has saved and enhanced my life in so many ways, I have no desire to quit.

and I refuse to give up my coffee .....one month it's bad for me, one month it's not. I am an adult and I can make my own decisions. As a two time cancer survivor, I know that life can be short no matter what we do. When your time is up...it's up. Nothing you can do about it. So why not enjoy what time we are here..........

 

[DPLongo22]

A humbling message, at least for me. Thanks, Charmed - and best wishes!

In October, I will celebrate (yes celebrate) two years of vaping. I have read the book....heck I even had the game on my Nintendo DS (yep there is one) and it didn't work. I did not start vaping to quit smoking. I started vaping so I could wouldn't have to go outside at work to smoke. But the happy consequence of vaping was that I quit smoking. Imagine that! and my oncologist is thrilled that I have quit smoking and started vaping instead.

Yes, vaping has become a hobby and a lifestyle for me. It isn't just about the nicotine any more. I enjoy doing it...heck I love doing it! And it has added to my life in so many more ways than helping with an "addiciton." If I wasn't a vaper, I wouldn't have met my fiance (vapey twitterverse). I wouldn't not have met my best friends in the world because I met them all here on ECF, on twitter, and on VapeTV. These wonderful people give me so much more support in every aspect of my life than anyone ever has. I truly believe in my heart that I would not have beaten my cancer this time without the loving support of these people.

I am sorry that vaping isn't working for you and I hope that the book helps you, but vaping has saved and enhanced my life in so many ways, I have no desire to quit.

and I refuse to give up my coffee .....one month it's bad for me, one month it's not. I am an adult and I can make my own decisions. As a two time cancer survivor, I know that life can be short no matter what we do. When your time is up...it's up. Nothing you can do about it. So why not enjoy what time we are here..........

 

[mostapha]

Disclosure: I reported the OP as spam.

If anyone cares about my thoughts on the topic, read this post: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/316022-safe-2.html#post6732207

The author he links to runs a business that recruits "graduates" as employees and seminar leaders. That may not be what's happening, but at any rate it's terrible information that directly contradicts science and medicine, and I don't believe it has any place on the ECF that I joined.