Erlkonigin and Clone Comparison

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roxynoodle

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Guess my cotton shoulders moved when I screwed on the cap and thus flooding ensued. Build one failed, will try another later, I got a mess to clean up...

Hey, when its your first build on a new atty, its allowed :). When its like your fifth and you mess up the wick, you feel like a ....., lol!
 

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Got my $20 clone in from FT, cleaned it and threw a 1.4 ohm build with rayon on it. It wont fire on my Provari nor my istick unless I use an ego/510 adapter. The screw that makes the connection sits a little to high in the atty, which is about my luck. I guess Ill break down and order a few of the circuit board spacers from madvapes and see if that will do the trick since I cant stand the way it looks with the adapter and cone to cover it up. I also tried to loosen the screw a touch and still couldnt get it to fire.

The 510 connection on the authentic ErlK is very short! The clone I have is even shorter.

As far as performance I would say that the vapor so far is a little less than Im getting on my Ehpro KF clone and the flavor is probably a touch better. I will also say that the airflow is ALOT more than a KF and thats with the AFC ring almost all the way closed compared to the two holes in my KF.

If you get it firing correctly, the clone should definitely outperform a KF, by miles.

Well, trying a build on my Erlkonigin clone BUT getting strange ohm readings on my merer vs hana mod - on the Hana mod its 1.6 ohms on ohm meter its 2.0-2.2 ohms - tested my meter with my Russian 2.0 and that reads fine so not sure what is up. HELP!!!

As mentioned above, the 510 pin is VERY short on the authentic and even shorter on my clone. I have tried the spacer supplied with the authentic on the clone and it doesn't fit properly. It does extend the 510 pin but it extends it too much and there is a gap between the atty and the mod of about 1/2 mm.

I got an Erlkonigin clone off ebay, don't know the manufacturer. It has the black plastic threaded drip tip, comes in a black box that says YZP .

Deck threads are stripped, plastic tube has creases, total piece of crap.

Sometimes, you get what you pay for. Sorry for your troubles. My clone's chimney connection sux and will not accept an authentic's chimney.

It should be mentioned that the screw on the bottom of the Erl is NOT an adjustable screw to make contact with the mod pin. It holds the positive post on the deck and should be tight.

Definitely! The 510 connection on the ErlK, be it authentic or clone, is NOT adjustable.
 

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I got an Erlkonigin clone off ebay, don't know the manufacturer. It has the black plastic threaded drip tip, comes in a black box that says YZP .

Deck threads are stripped, plastic tube has creases, total piece of crap.

That sucks. I got the $20 FT clone that comes in the silver box and it's very good to excellent. I saw that FT added the YZP clone a few days ago. I have another clone coming from FC. Hope it's not a YZP.
 

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Is the Erlkonigin really this touchy with wicking? For example mine flooded ALL my juice out the airflow control over time, just wouldn’t stop... Was quite the experience. :smokie:

All I could do is still and watch. :pop:

Got an image of your build? If not, take one the next time you build it. It will be very helpful in determining your issue.

Without seeing your build, I would say that your shoulders aren't large enough. They act as a buffer to help keep it from flooding.
 

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Got my drip AND FINALLY a treat hehehe :)

Never was so excited because of a drip tip ;)

No pic no proof

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Is the Erlkonigin really this touchy with wicking? For example mine flooded ALL my juice out the airflow control over time, just wouldn’t stop... Was quite the experience. :smokie:

All I could do is still and watch. :pop:

Make sure there's an o-ring between the top of the chimney and the top cap. I recieved my second clone today and it didn't have that o-ring. This one came in a brown cardboard colored jewelry looking box with a black picture of a guy vaping on the top and what looks like some vapor. Quality is not nearly as nice as my first clone, which came in the same box pictured in the OP. I haven't built a coil for the second one yet, but there's a bunch of burrs on it and some other noticable differences between the two.
 

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There should be an o-ring on top of the chimney? My Erlprinz didn't come like that, but it is in the bag of extras, weird, must be why mine flooded, but mine stopped flooding after about .5 ml. I also have that clone in the brown jewelry box, the quality on mine is top notch, but it smells something nasty, have to clean it up soon.
 
Second build - Nailed it! I must admit, I like this device BUT I really like my Kayfun and Russian 2.0 - I will invest in a Erlprinz to support the modder and have something a little better quality (I hope), the fill hole washer gets mangled in mine and pieces fall in the juice tank, I bet that will taste good vaperized. :lol:

I barely filled it but it started to leak again - I think its just the clone quality showing. I see the potential if I invest the cash, just wondering if the Erlprinz will leak like this since its a step down from the original.
 
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Just got my clone as well, put my first build in, and got massive flooding as well. But that was my fault, I didn't think this thing would wick as well as it does. I was feeling brave and wanted to try it with really thick VG juice and left the flow control ring off (since the prinz doesn't even have one), instantly started pouring down the chamber. I thought I had big enough shoulders to prevent flooding but I guess not ;)

Overall, impressed with the quality of the clone. Same silver box one. Mine has no burrs or rough spots anywhere. Chimney threads are perfect. O-Rings at top fill hole are still too small and fall out. Drip Tip doesn't tighten down far enough to prevent the top cap cover from moving, but at least makes it a little tighter.

Gonna try a second build tonight with the flow ring this time and even thicker shoulders, and hopefully I get good wicking with no flooding :D
 
Just got my clone as well, put my first build in, and got massive flooding as well. But that was my fault, I didn't think this thing would wick as well as it does. I was feeling brave and wanted to try it with really thick VG juice and left the flow control ring off (since the prinz doesn't even have one), instantly started pouring down the chamber. I thought I had big enough shoulders to prevent flooding but I guess not ;)

Overall, impressed with the quality of the clone. Same silver box one. Mine has no burrs or rough spots anywhere. Chimney threads are perfect. O-Rings at top fill hole are still too small and fall out. Drip Tip doesn't tighten down far enough to prevent the top cap cover from moving, but at least makes it a little tighter.

Gonna try a second build tonight with the flow ring this time and even thicker shoulders, and hopefully I get good wicking with no flooding :D

I'm finding I need more cotton/wicking stuff than I use in my Kayfun types... My second build was way better than my first but when adjusting my draw tighter I ended up breaking the vacuum and leak city. Luckily it wasn’t filled very much.
 

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Hmmmm.
Millah, maybe file a little off the bottom of your drip tip? Would that solve it?
As with most RTAs, tank pressure/vacuum is important, just curious if that top cover is still slightly too loose and causing you issues.

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You know I didn't even think of that, good point. I don't think its too loose, its just not as snug as I think the authentic is. If I force it, I can turn the top, but it doesn't turn freely. But its possible its affecting the pressure inside. I'll try filing it down and see what happens. I want to do that anyway so I don't accidentally expose the fill holes in my pocket.

I'm finding I need more cotton/wicking stuff than I use in my Kayfun types... My second build was way better than my first but when adjusting my draw tighter I ended up breaking the vacuum and leak city. Luckily it wasn’t filled very much.

Yea it seems to need a good bit of cotton at the top of the channels. I've seen the pictorial and read all the wicking tips, but didn't think it was really that good at flooding the chamber. I personally prefer something a tad oversaturated than a tad dry, I was thinking the ErlK would let me get away with it. Unfortunately I wasn't bright enough to try filling just a little, it was late last night and I was getting sleepy lol. I put a good bit of my favorite juice in there and ended up wasting about half. Whoops.
 

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From what I've learned on my Erl (authentic) you're better off with too much chimney wick rather than too little, but for down the vertical juice channels its almost the opposite. Those only need a little piece.
I've packed in rayon so tight the coil would deform if I didn't hold it still, and it still worked great. Just gotta make sure there's enough to block the top of the juice channel, but not so much or so wide that the wick twists when you screw on the chimney.

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