Esterigon official

[Mark Todd]

All my answers are above Imeo.

You sent me the mod for review, I give it my honest appraisal as I always do, you may not agree or like what I have said on the video but I stand by what I have said and consider it fair and honest.

I'm not going to blow smoke up your backside and tell you I think it's the best thing I've ever seen, it's not but it's still on par with your usual creations, exceptionally well made and designed but I do not believe it will appeal to everyone.

If you want to discuss further then feel free to give me a shout.

Todd

 

[RiverNut]

I was thinking this was the first GG mod that was geared to "non GG people" because it does not have the native GG connection.

 

[Martino.]

Why Esterigon would not be a true GG..? and evolution of the beautiful and monumental TS / Just a new concept for home GG but full of foresight techniques that only GG has accustomed us always, you can not expect that Imeo can not evolve their creations if you do not have a low-key side Esterigon .. and compact that once an object directly to a revolution than in the past, great courage to change the form factor and successful experiment I would say a true lover of the old models that I will keep forever in my house

 

[Anon63]

The review seemed mostly good, but the negative comments seemed a touch out of place
when they landed without an explanation, and to tell non GG fans its not worth the money
was just plain weird. Did it get planned out before the .18 drop reading, because that seems
to have been forgotten as the review went on. The only other negatives mentioned were a dirty button
and the issue with a strange battery choice to use with such a high resistance coil (a red efest would have fitted).

I do think Imeo has asked some very reasonable questions and Mark has chosen to hide behind his
normal "its my honest opinion" mantra. If your going to throw in a don't buy it line - then you need to
explain yourself a little better - that's my honest opinion!

 

[monkkx]

the final evaluation in this review gave too mch weight on the voltage drop ... way too much !! for sure, compared to a mod with solid switch connection and direct atty/battery contact would not be in favor of estirigon ... but I care more of the convenience of auto-adjustab
ble battery and atty connections.
With all due respect, Todd has one of the less "scientific" approach in his reviews, no procedure reproduced with all mods ... therefore, his reviews are for me just an overview of "what's new on the market" since all moders/companies sent stuff to him first, but are very questionnable in term of rigorousness... so to be taken with a grain of salt.
Saddly, he's one of the most viewed, so I can understand modders concerns when the overall opinion sounds negative
I'm looking forward P. Busardo kind of reviews, and most importantly, MY estirigon

 

[imeothanasis]

Todd, your opinions still come without any explanations. You still dont give me an answer to any of my questions.

Anyway, even if this seems strange to me, I will accept it. And I want to send you more GG constructions for review. But if you choose to not accept my constructions for review, thats ok too

All my answers are above Imeo.

You sent me the mod for review, I give it my honest appraisal as I always do, you may not agree or like what I have said on the video but I stand by what I have said and consider it fair and honest.

I'm not going to blow smoke up your backside and tell you I think it's the best thing I've ever seen, it's not but it's still on par with your usual creations, exceptionally well made and designed but I do not believe it will appeal to everyone.

If you want to discuss further then feel free to give me a shout.

Todd

 

[RiverNut]

Other than voltage drop, "best" is extremely subjective anyway. And yeah, unless voltage drop tests are performed under the exact same conditions, it's pointless.

 

[imeothanasis]

Mon you are right, we cant compare different things. As you already said, esterigon is made to fit all atomizers when other mods accept only their atomizer.
If I had made a mod that accepts only GG atomizers then we could compare it with other mods that accept only their atomizer.

the final evaluation in this review gave too mch weight on the voltage drop ... way too much !! for sure, compared to a mod with solid switch connection and direct atty/battery contact would not be in favor of estirigon ... but I care more of the convenience of auto-adjustab
ble battery and atty connections.
With all due respect, Todd has one of the less "scientific" approach in his reviews, no procedure reproduced with all mods ... therefore, his reviews are for me just an overview of "what's new on the market" since all moders/companies sent stuff to him first, but are very questionnable in term of rigorousness... so to be taken with a grain of salt.
Saddly, he's one of the most viewed, so I can understand modders concerns when the overall opinion sounds negative
I'm looking forward P. Busardo kind of reviews, and most importantly, MY estirigon

 

[imeothanasis]

I know that voltage drop of esterigon is very small River. I measured even a 0,11 drop when tubes and contacts were clean. But you will see this by yourself.
I still dont understand why all esterigon's features arent on Todd's review. I didnt see any mention even to center posts and on how innovated they are. And about how easy the cleaning is and how easy the button comes out and about the rotated contacts and about the adjustable button path etc.

Thats why I put my questions to Todd. I hope that I didnt offend Todd, I was just asking. I also think that if another modder was in my position, he would be maybe mad.

Anyway Todd, if you think that you have to make another video about esterigon after you use it for some days, then do it. You always have the right to change your opinion.

Other than voltage drop, "best" is extremely subjective anyway. And yeah, unless voltage drop tests are performed under the exact same conditions, it's pointless.

 

[steliosss]

Maybe I offended him by saying "which mechanical mod (button up) is better than Esterigon"???????
Was not my intention of course! I was just curious

 

[RiverNut]

it was an odd review to say the least, followed by odd comments without explanation.
With his popularity, he should be much more exact in explanation before he makes damaging statements.
Regardless of being a "fanboy" of GG, I have lost respect for his "opinions"

 

[CaptSteve]

I've avoided commenting because I haven't received my Esterigon and haven't had the chance to test it and draw my own conclusions but I will say this.
I respect everyone's objective opinion which is however substantiated. We must understand that mods are subject to personal taste, personal form factor appeal and overall individual preference. What I like and recommend may not appeal to others.

As far as design concept I believe the creator has to walk a very fine line. Does he design a top hitting mod with less compatibility with all types of atties or does he design a mod which is fully compatible with everything out there?
Does he place form factor higher on his design priorities over lets say larger battery capacity? Does he sacrifice some voltage drop for fire button convenience and ease of use?
I can go on and on.
I believe Imeo walks a very fine line with his designs and always tries to find a perfect medium to keep most users happy.
As I said I do respect Todd's opinion despite the fact that I don't understand what he meant by "I wouldn't recommend it to non GG users". His statement doesn't bother me, it's his opinion, but he never explained why? I can only assume he meant that at the price range of the Esterigon he would recommend something else.
Being a vaper for over 4 years who has an arsenal of top end mods I don't know what he means because I haven't found too many makers who come close to GG quality and design features. Yes I have found great mod quality but was disappointed by their contacts for example or have bought great designs which came short on the performance aspect or reliability. I can safely say that I can name 1 or 2 other mods that come close to design, quality, reliability and compatibility as GG's and they certainly are not cheap, in fact they are much more expensive.
Esterigon wasn't meant to revolutionize vaping, it's just a complement to the GG range as a mid mod between Just GG and Proteus form factors.
I personally feel it complements the GG range well and covers a size range that few modders have attempted to make for 18xxx batteries. Are there other mods out there that someone may prefer? Sure, there always will be because mods are subject to personal taste and preference

 

[JMBH]

I know that voltage drop of esterigon is very small River. I measured even a 0,11 drop when tubes and contacts were clean. But you will see this by yourself.
I still dont understand why all esterigon's features arent on Todd's review. I didnt see any mention even to center posts and on how innovated they are. And about how easy the cleaning is and how easy the button comes out and about the rotated contacts and about the adjustable button path etc.

Thats why I put my questions to Todd. I hope that I didnt offend Todd, I was just asking. I also think that if another modder was in my position, he would be maybe mad.

Anyway Todd, if you think that you have to make another video about esterigon after you use it for some days, then do it. You always have the right to change your opinion.

Imeo , I think Todd didn't watch your videos explaining esterigon's features . I noticed in his review he mentioned about the springs off the spring loaded application which is an innovative feature , he even moved to his box searching like for a brass spring . when this springs in esterigon are specially designed eccentric to push moving contact for better conductivity .

 

[ZeroOhms]

It was the neighbor's dog barking that threw Todd off!

 

[AdamAnd]

I think and I hope all agree we are aware of all of the great features that Esterigon has, and one persons opinion is there own, unfortunately in this high tech world word travels fast whether right or wrong or incomplete. It is unfortunate that all the great features were not explained or even mentioned, but the thing that I think is just a shame is the mention that it is not for all vapors, that's not right. All we can do and i am nobody's salesman is when we get our Esterigon's is to share all the info about it "all of it" and let the people make an educated decision as if they want it or not. Fare is fare.

 

[ZeroOhms]

I always enjoyed Todd's review due to lack of "drama" on his review. So, big cheers to him and looking forward to see more from him.

It is well known that you will end up with lots of "best mod/atty ever" after watching his reviews. I think his agreeable and friendly personality tend to like and enjoy what he is reviewing and I have no problem with that. At the end, we should all be making our own final judgement calls anyway. So, I was actually intrigued to hear him saying this wasn't for everyone. "best mod" is always easy way out for reviewers and this review was quite refreshing. However, it was a let-down when there weren't much of substance behind it. At the end, I wasn't even sure if he was saying it is a good or bad mod? Is the voltage drop on Esterigon good or bad? This was followed by lot more of "this isn't good but if you do it this way, it works great". Finally with the statement of "this isn't for everyone but definitely for GG fan". Leaving everyone confused.

Todd took a chance by being critical about a product from well respected modder. This is a good thing and I wish more reviewers do that. However, if you are going to stop sugar coating everything and actually scrutinize it, you need to be prepared to be scrutinized about the review too. It has to go both ways. And you can't take that personally. I don't think Imeo and GG community are taking Tood's review personally and simply want to have constructive discussion regarding factual discoveries.

 

[imeothanasis]

I think that you always have to watch manufacturer's videos JM. If you dont do that then how you can make a serious review if you dont know what a mod can do?
And I have already said on my videos that brass springs doesnt work like SS ones because they are soft and cant give me the results I want on voltage drop. The harder the spring, the better

Imeo , I think Todd didn't watch your videos explaining esterigon's features . I noticed in his review he mentioned about the springs off the spring loaded application which is an innovative feature , he even moved to his box searching like for a brass spring . when this springs in esterigon are specially designed eccentric to push moving contact for better conductivity .

 

[imeothanasis]

I agree on everything you said captain except from the fact that esterigon was not meant to be a revolutionary product. To my opinion, there is no revolution on mechs, just big improvements. A big improved mech product has to have all the possible features on it and at the same time to be small and very user friendly. Thats esterigon.

I've avoided commenting because I haven't received my Esterigon and haven't had the chance to test it and draw my own conclusions but I will say this.
I respect everyone's objective opinion which is however substantiated. We must understand that mods are subject to personal taste, personal form factor appeal and overall individual preference. What I like and recommend may not appeal to others.

As far as design concept I believe the creator has to walk a very fine line. Does he design a top hitting mod with less compatibility with all types of atties or does he design a mod which is fully compatible with everything out there?
Does he place form factor higher on his design priorities over lets say larger battery capacity? Does he sacrifice some voltage drop for fire button convenience and ease of use?
I can go on and on.
I believe Imeo walks a very fine line with his designs and always tries to find a perfect medium to keep most users happy.
As I said I do respect Todd's opinion despite the fact that I don't understand what he meant by "I wouldn't recommend it to non GG users". His statement doesn't bother me, it's his opinion, but he never explained why? I can only assume he meant that at the price range of the Esterigon he would recommend something else.
Being a vaper for over 4 years who has an arsenal of top end mods I don't know what he means because I haven't found too many makers who come close to GG quality and design features. Yes I have found great mod quality but was disappointed by their contacts for example or have bought great designs which came short on the performance aspect or reliability. I can safely say that I can name 1 or 2 other mods that come close to design, quality, reliability and compatibility as GG's and they certainly are not cheap, in fact they are much more expensive.
Esterigon wasn't meant to revolutionize vaping, it's just a complement to the GG range as a mid mod between Just GG and Proteus form factors.
I personally feel it complements the GG range well and covers a size range that few modders have attempted to make for 18xxx batteries. Are there other mods out there that someone may prefer? Sure, there always will be because mods are subject to personal taste and preference

 

[imeothanasis]

That was the most strange statement Adam and when I heard it I thought that Todd would explain the reasons. But I didnt hear anything. It was like Todd wanted to stop esterigon sales!.

the thing that I think is just a shame is the mention that it is not for all vapors, that's not right.

 

[JMBH]

I think that you always have to watch manufacturer's videos JM. If you dont do that then how you can make a serious review if you dont know what a mod can do?
And I have already said on my videos that brass springs doesnt work like SS ones because they are soft and cant give me the results I want on voltage drop. The harder the spring, the better

Right Imeo , thats what I meant . He should have watched carefully all your videos...