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Same SMY SDNA75 they are talking about that ecig.com has for $49.95 & you can use ecig10 for 10% off that.

Well for $52 with priority 2 day I can't really pass it up. I ordered a black. If I end up really liking it I'll try to get one of the wooden if I can see a real photo of it. Or maybe a red. Hopefully the build quality is good. And wires don't get screwed in a few months or something. Considering the cost of the chip I can't see how they're making money at this price with authentic chips.

I guess I should have read back to see what they were talking about. That wasn't the same one fast tech had at $65 or whatever with map
Code was it ?


Thanks for the heads up - I'd like to see photos in here of the red and stainless if anyone has it.

The wood looks w lot better in the previous photos than on the site. I'd probably have gotten that if it were in stock but I figured it was more likely the rest would get sold than the wood would come back.

Are ecig in the USA ? Priority two day really two day ? Like I'll have it Friday latest ?

Never dealt with them before.
 

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Yes I know who they are and what they are about. But they are not popular. That should tell you something.

Dicodes is like provape. A lot of people think provape has a better vape. Myself included.
Than many others. I bought a second hand p3 and was given a radius. I have several high end mods that do temp control. Maine cheapies too. The provape stuff gives me a better vape with kanthal than anything else. I was extremely resistant to that idea. I figured so long as a device didn't stutter out power in PWM you could more or less just adjust mods to act the same. Bt that isn't the case.

Plus provape has amazing customer support. And it's USA made so pure supporting our economy bit Chinese economy. And they put a ton into advocacy.

I'm not a provape zealot. I was for a couple years very dismissive of their products doing anything substantially better than cheap mods let alone high end Asian mods. But with fifteen mods sitting here the two most used are the p3 and radius. The next most used is the wae I with gem (DNA 30). I found power delivery to be better across all three than the DNA 200 mods I tried.

Dicodes has a similar customer base. But they offer temperature control. If you haven't given a shot to people like dicodes or provape and are , as I was for ages, dismissive that the price wasn't worth it - I'd say find one second hand to try and see.

I'm shocked other vendors have not come up with a boost mode that works as well as the provape setup which is simply five watts at quarter second intervals from 1/4 to 5/4.

Also I find my provape to be quite durable.

So for me knowing dicodes are the same kind of vendor (often called the provari of Europe) and that they offer temp control. I'd love to get one. I just don't have $250 for a mod right now.

While provari have less functions what they do Compared to other mods for me hasn't been surpassed. That's the sentiment I get about dicodes from their customers.

To be clear I'm not saying there are no other mods that are good. Nor am I saying everyone should buy provape only. I do think with pending vapepocalypse that buying these kind of well made durable mods that will last is now more of a priority than trying the latest and greatest new tech hammered out by companies who don't figure into our economy in a positive way or give back to vapers through advocacy.

I'd like to know what evolv do for advocacy. I'd have to think they're involved but I do know they're just a very small division of another company that has nothing to do with Vaping (right?). Surely they're providing funds for advocacy ? I guess in that way if you buy an Asian mod with evolv chip you're supporting a us company. To be fair. I'm trying another new gen DNA chip after poor DNA 200 experiences. I'm excited to see how far it's come.

Anyway am sorry to derail I just wanted to offer an opinion on dicodes and parallel it to my provape experience. I still haven't bought a new provari product but I'll probably buy one in the next few months. They've earned my support with their actions. And their products are very very good at the one thing they do. Non temp control vaping.
 

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hahaha, I was going to order the mod, charger and extra battery. so, I go to check out and find they ship to every country on the planet except Canada? ... lol. ohwell ...
You don't know anyone in the states who will forward to you if you have it shipped to their address? I'm sure some here would be happy to help you out by forwarding.
Well for $52 with priority 2 day I can't really pass it up. I ordered a black. If I end up really liking it I'll try to get one of the wooden if I can see a real photo of it. Or maybe a red. Hopefully the build quality is good. And wires don't get screwed in a few months or something. Considering the cost of the chip I can't see how they're making money at this price with authentic chips.

I guess I should have read back to see what they were talking about. That wasn't the same one fast tech had at $65 or whatever with map
Code was it ?


Thanks for the heads up - I'd like to see photos in here of the red and stainless if anyone has it.

The wood looks w lot better in the previous photos than on the site. I'd probably have gotten that if it were in stock but I figured it was more likely the rest would get sold than the wood would come back.

Are ecig in the USA ? Priority two day really two day ? Like I'll have it Friday latest ?

Never dealt with them before.
Same as the one one at Fasttech. You should have it by Friday. I have ordered on Friday & received on Monday in past.

Look forward to your thoughts on your new purchase.
 

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Well for $52 with priority 2 day I can't really pass it up. I ordered a black. If I end up really liking it I'll try to get one of the wooden if I can see a real photo of it. Or maybe a red. Hopefully the build quality is good. And wires don't get screwed in a few months or something. Considering the cost of the chip I can't see how they're making money at this price with authentic chips.

I guess I should have read back to see what they were talking about. That wasn't the same one fast tech had at $65 or whatever with map
Code was it ?


Thanks for the heads up - I'd like to see photos in here of the red and stainless if anyone has it.

The wood looks w lot better in the previous photos than on the site. I'd probably have gotten that if it were in stock but I figured it was more likely the rest would get sold than the wood would come back.

Are ecig in the USA ? Priority two day really two day ? Like I'll have it Friday latest ?

Never dealt with them before.
Looks like the Wooden color is now out of stock at ecig. They still had the other 3 colors when I just looked.

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Steve
 

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Looks like the Wooden color is now out of stock at ecig. They still had the other 3 colors when I just looked.

Cheers,
Steve

Yah I was bummed by that. I put my name on a list. If I end up liking this a lot I'll get a second one. But I still haven't got a wooden mod. Though I guess this is not real wood right. Sticker ?

You don't know anyone in the states who will forward to you if you have it shipped to their address? I'm sure some here would be happy to help you out by forwarding.

Same as the one one at Fasttech. You should have it by Friday. I have ordered on Friday & received on Monday in past.

Look forward to your thoughts on your new purchase.

I'm really glad I waited then ! Fast shipping and $15 less. I can't see how these guys make money at this price with chip
Cost. Maybe hey buy so many chips the price we think is twice as much as actual cost ?

I need to get the SS csv downloaded. I have some I bought on eBay which was after emailing back and forth confirmed to absolutely be 316L ($20 for 2500 ft ) and some lightening vapes and unkamen ranging from 304 to 317L. In my experience the lower grade stainless works better for temp control. A lot better. Maybe that won't be the case with he DNA 75


Does anyone know how to make a csv for claptonnwire ? Or can you get away with just using the core wire csv and ignoring the wrap ?

I saw mention that you can now separate materials from profiles. That seems like it could be very handy.

Have you found it necessary to set the mod resistance and thermal settings to make it work better ? I guess here listed in here somewhere. The thermal stuff is tough on ARIZONA. Given the 115 degree average summer day. Mods can get very confused.
 
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Yah I was bummed by that. I put my name on a list. If I end up liking this a lot I'll get a second one. But I still haven't got a wooden mod. Though I guess this is not real wood right. Sticker ?



I'm really glad I waited then ! Fast shipping and $15 less. I can't see how these guys make money at this price with chip
Cost. Maybe hey buy so many chips the price we think is twice as much as actual cost ?

I need to get the SS csv downloaded. I have some I bought on eBay which was after emailing back and forth confirmed to absolutely be 316L ($20 for 2500 ft ) and some lightening vapes and unkamen ranging from 304 to 317L. In my experience the lower grade stainless works better for temp control. A lot better. Maybe that won't be the case with he DNA 75


Does anyone know how to make a csv for claptonnwire ? Or can you get away with just using the core wire csv and ignoring the wrap ?

I saw mention that you can now separate materials from profiles. That seems like it could be very handy.

Have you found it necessary to set the mod resistance and thermal settings to make it work better ? I guess here listed in here somewhere. The thermal stuff is tough on ARIZONA. Given the 115 degree average summer day. Mods can get very confused.
ss 316L is already in mod. Other CSVs available from the Steam-Engine.org wire wizard. SteamEngine can handle certain wire combinations to generate a csv or Contact manufacturer for the CSV for this Clapton wire and they should provide you with it.

You might be pushing the DNA75 to its limits on some of these heavier Clapton wires and You should probably get the DX200 to push some of those heavier builds. The DX200 is cheaper and much more likely to handle a heavy build without heating up too much.

It is a painted wood grain applied with sponges I believe rather than a sticker. I could be wrong, but thats how it looks to me.
 
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I've had my stainless SMY for about a month, but finally got a silver Merlin RTA for it. I like the finish on the ss version, I wanted something that was small and durable to pocket. I also got a silver SXK Nebula Wine Tank for the vapepocalypse box, I have a black one, but it's been discontinued. I just put it on the SMY for pictures, but it will go into the stash box.

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ss 316L is already in mod. Other CSVs available from the Steam-Engine.org wire wizard. SteamEngine can handle certain wire combinations to generate a csv or Contact manufacturer for the CSV for this Clapton wire and they should provide you with it.

You might be pushing the DNA75 to its limits on some of these heavier Clapton wires and You should probably get the DX200 to push some of those heavier builds. The DX200 is cheaper and much more likely to handle a heavy build without heating up too much.

It is a painted wood grain applied with sponges I believe rather than a sticker. I could be wrong, but thats how it looks to me.

Thanks for he input. I don't think there will be any issue with this Clapton. It's is very small. 28 gauge single core and 36 gauge wrap. It's probably a similar diameter to 26 gauge. Nothing bad. I run it without issue in twenty watt devices outside of temp control. As a m2l vaper I seldom
Do anything fancy. My favorite wire right now is 29 gauge kanthal or 28 stainless. Sometimes twisted if I'm not in a mech.
 

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I've had my stainless SMY for about a month, but finally got a silver Merlin RTA for it. I like the finish on the ss version, I wanted something that was small and durable to pocket. I also got a silver SXK Nebula Wine Tank for the vapepocalypse box, I have a black one, but it's been discontinued. I just put it on the SMY for pictures, but it will go into the stash box.

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I changed my order. Well I had to cancel and reorder and lost 5% off but the. Selected slower shipping. It's not urgent and my black mods haven't fared well at all. Like you I figured the stainless any be more durable.

What's the size like - it's hard to gauge. Smaller than an evic mini Bigger than an Istick pico ? I keep seeing various hand sizes with it and I fluctuate from its pretty small to it's not that small.
 

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I guess this needs to be said just in case some folks are thinking that the SS SDNA is stainless steel....it is not, it is a zinc alloy that is clear coated. The finish on mine is holding up quite well.
If in doubt with my findings do a scratch test somewhere on the insides. (I did)
 

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I changed my order. Well I had to cancel and reorder and lost 5% off but the. Selected slower shipping. It's not urgent and my black mods haven't fared well at all. Like you I figured the stainless any be more durable.

What's the size like - it's hard to gauge. Smaller than an evic mini Bigger than an Istick pico ? I keep seeing various hand sizes with it and I fluctuate from its pretty small to it's not that small.
It's about the same size as an Evic mini. It's definitely small and portable, but not in the range of mini mods like the Pico etc. As far as I can tell, it's the smallest DNA75 device and it's sturdy and feels well built.
 

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The SMY is almost identical in size to the VTC, except... it's actually thinner by a fraction (you can see the Merlin above has a bit of overhang) and of course the "horn" of the grip is larger at that point.


I'm shocked other vendors have not come up with a boost mode that works as well as the provape setup which is simply five watts at quarter second intervals from 1/4 to 5/4.

It turns out you can use the DNA's "pre-heat" on Kanthal.
It's meant for TC and allows adjustment of... Wattage, Duration, and how close to the "set temp" it will go before the pre-heat stops.
That last wouldn't apply to a non-TC wire, but the rest works.


I need to get the SS csv downloaded. I have some I bought on eBay which was after emailing back and forth confirmed to absolutely be 316L ($20 for 2500 ft ) and some lightening vapes and unkamen ranging from 304 to 317L. In my experience the lower grade stainless works better for temp control. A lot better. Maybe that won't be the case with he DNA 75


Does anyone know how to make a csv for claptonnwire ? Or can you get away with just using the core wire csv and ignoring the wrap ?

I saw mention that you can now separate materials from profiles. That seems like it could be very handy.

Have you found it necessary to set the mod resistance and thermal settings to make it work better ? I guess here listed in here somewhere. The thermal stuff is tough on ARIZONA. Given the 115 degree average summer day. Mods can get very confused.

As said... you'll need a .csv for each SS alloy. The mod will hold up to eight.
Clapton CSVs... I'd think not. But tpat sez check S-E... check S-E. :)

Yes... you can change the material for each profile in the mod "on the fly"
Thank you Steve (aka Wingsfan) for that tidbit. ;)

Yes, you want the correct case thermals... it matters.
Luckily, Daniel (of DJLsb Vapes) worked in developing the mod and created the profiles so it's useable out of the box (except for a 430 .csv).

The case data is filled in but the mod resistance is quite low. Haven't looked into that yet.
Perhaps it's correct, the rest looks good. A dedicated SMY75 thread or the Evolv forum perhaps would confirm.
 

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The SMY is almost identical in size to the VTC, except... it's actually thinner by a fraction (you can see the Merlin above has a bit of overhang) and of course the "horn" of the grip is larger at that point.




It turns out you can use the DNA's "pre-heat" on Kanthal.
It's meant for TC and allows adjustment of... Wattage, Duration, and how close to the "set temp" it will go before the pre-heat stops.
That last wouldn't apply to a non-TC wire, but the rest works.

...).

The case data is filled in but the mod resistance is quite low. Haven't looked into that yet.
Perhaps it's correct, the rest looks good. A dedicated SMY75 thread or the Evolv forum perhaps would confirm.

Thanks for all the info. I didn't realize there was a dedicated thread for the mod. I'll have a search and try to find it. Im sure someone has a thread or blog post with updated aggregated information as it progresses. I'll also try to glen more from here. Maybe if there isn't a thread someone such as yourself or another who is very familiar can run a soecific thread with aggregated info. I'm sure Reddit has some info too.


I'm stuck in extended stay hotel during spinal rehab and pre brain surgery - the wifi here is TERRIBLE , and my phone doesn't get LTE!!! so it's all extremely slow- So I must apologize for not being more independent for information as I usually would be. It sounds like thing a have been improved greatly since my very early days DNA 200 experience. With the DNA 200 mods I tried there were no profiles built in. It couldn't do temp control out of the box. That surprised me. Not even nickel or titanium. Let alone stainless. So that's a big step forward.

I believe you can actually do temp control with Clapton wire. You just have to measure It. There are wire vendors who have values for the current DNA chips for a range of wire. LV has a couple but others have more. I can't imagine a stainless core stainless wrapped Clapton would be any different than a regular stainless profile. The resistance isn't even too different. Mixing materials would require more but I know some are using kanthal and nickel wire combos. I'll look and see what else has changed. After icing up on the dna200 mods I tuned out but it seems there's a lot of good stuff happening.

Again I appreciate the info!!


-**Sidebar to correct an earlier comment with updated info. Not relevant to dna75 directly

after discussing the radius mod in here I realized I hadn't checked for software updates. You can imagine how surprised j was to see provape added "coil control" out of nowhere. It's a sort of dumbed down temp control that's geared for specific tanks and coils , though there is a discovery mode it is cumbersome to define every build so anyone using it would want to stick to the same builds. I have barely touched it, it may wind up working really well. My assumption is hey call it coil control as they've r learnedly stated they don't feel current methods can be called temp control as they're not reliable. In going to inquire exactly what the values of the alphanumeric are but it works roughly like this.

You define the coil selecting an alpha value from a-i. You then define the intensity using levels 1-7. Starting with a value of a7. You proceed along the alphabet until you hit a letter that makes the vapor taste bad(slightly burnt etc). Then you adjust the level down from 7.

It's actually sort of working with nichrome80. It's not meant for kanthal but they have values for some kanthal coils though they say it's unknown material. The reason I mention this is primarily to correct my comments earlier in the thread about provape not offering any sort of temp control. also to point out anther take that's completely opposite to the DNA process. In here we are discussing profiles and file downloading and temp curves and thermal correction etc etc. they're trying to offer a process that's as non technical as possible. I'm curious as to how well it can work being so simplified.
 
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I have the red one and it gets dirty quite easily. Would suggest you guys to stay away. Also what would be the best way to clean this kind of finish.

I wish I had bought the black or stainless one.

Damp microfiber with a 50% white vinegar and water solution tends to clean almost anything well and it's non toxic. Bonus it sterilizes if you vape and poop. :p

Thanks for the info on the red. Sorry it's giving you grief.


You can apply synthetic polymer sealant to mods to help them stay clean. Or clean off more easily. And protect from scratching. I have Klasse sealant glaze for my car and I use it on a few of my more expensive mods. It's a simple wipe on wipe off application. It's expensive to buy a bottle if your only use is Vaping. I think it's $15-20. But if you only used it for mods that would be a lifetime supply.

The Klasse sealant glaze (not all in one) creates a sort of polymer shrink wrap around the finish. As a result dirt comes off easily and you get a kind of protection in that dirt and grime don't stick and m scuff. I can't vouch for any other products but there are many. This one is just the best imo. Look for recommendations on car care products in detailing forums for more recommendations. You have to make sure it's totally clean before applying. I use the vinegar listed above. Then after it dries I wipe on the Klasse sealant (you'd use literally one drop, do not apply like wax , if you can see it after application you used way too much - it should appear moist for a few seconds ) I wait 8-12 hours - I apply before bedtime. Then I wipe off. I apply a second coat (you're not layering you're ensuring you didn't miss any spots) got to work and wipe off upon return.


Because it seems like nothing is on there after applying you may wonder if it's helping. A week after application you'll see the difference in how easily it cleans off. And how reduced the dirt is. You would do the treatment maybe twice a year. You use one drop per application. Literally.


It's easy to overlook but great car care products can do wonders for keeping mods in shape. Preventing finish damage and make cleaning easier.

Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze Car Wax Sealant

Make sure you glance at an application video to see how thin you apply. Literally it's a drop. I can't stress that enough. If you load it on you're going to wind up with weird white streaks it's very difficult to remove. Less is more.

DO NOT USE SEALANTS ON WOOD OR ANYTHING POROUS
 
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Thanks for all the info. I didn't realize there was a dedicated thread for the mod. I'll have a search and try to find it. Im sure someone has a thread or blog post with updated aggregated information as it progresses. I'll also try to glen more from here. Maybe if there isn't a thread someone such as yourself or another who is very familiar can run a soecific thread with aggregated info. I'm sure Reddit has some info too.


I'm stuck in extended stay hotel during spinal rehab and pre brain surgery - the wifi here is TERRIBLE , and my phone doesn't get LTE!!! so it's all extremely slow- So I must apologize for not being more independent for information as I usually would be. It sounds like thing a have been improved greatly since my very early days DNA 200 experience. With the DNA 200 mods I tried there were no profiles built in. It couldn't do temp control out of the box. That surprised me. Not even nickel or titanium. Let alone stainless. So that's a big step forward.

I believe you can actually do temp control with Clapton wire. You just have to measure It. There are wire vendors who have values for the current DNA chips for a range of wire. LV has a couple but others have more. I can't imagine a stainless core stainless wrapped Clapton would be any different than a regular stainless profile. The resistance isn't even too different. Mixing materials would require more but I know some are using kanthal and nickel wire combos. I'll look and see what else has changed. After icing up on the dna200 mods I tuned out but it seems there's a lot of good stuff happening.

Again I appreciate the info!!


-**Sidebar to correct an earlier comment with updated info. Not relevant to dna75 directly

after discussing the radius mod in here I realized I hadn't checked for software updates. You can imagine how surprised j was to see provape added "coil control" out of nowhere. It's a sort of dumbed down temp control that's geared for specific tanks and coils , though there is a discovery mode it is cumbersome to define every build so anyone using it would want to stick to the same builds. I have barely touched it, it may wind up working really well. My assumption is hey call it coil control as they've r learnedly stated they don't feel current methods can be called temp control as they're not reliable. In going to inquire exactly what the values of the alphanumeric are but it works roughly like this.

You define the coil selecting an alpha value from a-i. You then define the intensity using levels 1-7. Starting with a value of a7. You proceed along the alphabet until you hit a letter that makes the vapor taste bad(slightly burnt etc). Then you adjust the level down from 7.

It's actually sort of working with nichrome80. It's not meant for kanthal but they have values for some kanthal coils though they say it's unknown material. The reason I mention this is primarily to correct my comments earlier in the thread about provape not offering any sort of temp control. also to point out anther take that's completely opposite to the DNA process. In here we are discussing profiles and file downloading and temp curves and thermal correction etc etc. they're trying to offer a process that's as non technical as possible. I'm curious as to how well it can work being so simplified.
Lets get you started on the DNA75 to keep you occupied & give you a leg up:
  1. Download & install the DNA75 version of Escribe http://www.evolvapor.com/software/SetupES75.exe
  2. Here is a backup of my SMY SDNA75 Stock Settings but I had started loading some materials & playing a bit by this point.SMY SDNA75 Stock settings.ecig
  3. Go to SteamEngine Wire Wizard on any browser but Internet Explorer or Edge Wire wizard.
You will see that you can choose Clapton Wire in the Wire Builder Tab. Now you can set up .csv files for your preferred builds and load them into the materials tab in advance of receiving your unit so you will be ready to go when it arrives.
 
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Lets get you started on the DNA75 to keep you occupied & give you a leg up:
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You will see that you can choose Clapton Wire in the Wire Builder Tab. Now you can set up .csv files for your preferred builds and load them into the materials tab in advance of receiving your unit so you will be ready to go when it arrives.
Thanks so much !! Very helpful and gives me the day it will take to download ten megs data. :)

I appreciate your patience and help
 
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