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This atty $20.25 Authentic Avidvape Ghost Inhale RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 3.5/5ml / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping was just listed on FT this morning :)
It checks all my box's :) It has a GTA styled deck, with a single coil, bottom air flow Only, it has a bubble glass option (5Mil)
I'm really liking these short bubble glass single coil atty's lately :) The only problem is no JFC :( A little chamber flooding does occur on refill :( Quickly remedied with a Purge, But still a bit of a hassle :(
Maybe the "GTA" Deck will help stop that? @ only $20 I'l give it a try :)
 

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Am I the only one who sees "GTA" as Greater Toronto Area... :lol:

Or Grand Theft Auto :D
Hey Troll Hows that "Glaz" rta? I keep passing it over cause of the Dual Coil deck & the all Glass Construction, But I bet the Flavour is on Point?
 

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This atty $20.25 Authentic Avidvape Ghost Inhale RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 3.5/5ml / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping was just listed on FT this morning :)
It checks all my box's :) It has a GTA styled deck, with a single coil, bottom air flow Only, it has a bubble glass option (5Mil)
I'm really liking these short bubble glass single coil atty's lately :) The only problem is no JFC :( A little chamber flooding does occur on refill :( Quickly remedied with a Purge, But still a bit of a hassle :(
Maybe the "GTA" Deck will help stop that? @ only $20 I'l give it a try :)

How's a big ole lung hit draw on that compared to that of a V1 or V2 mizer? More? Any tighter? Do you think a single plain, spaced wrapped nickle coil would perform well or it wouldn't be enough coil for it? I like the looks of the design but I'd like the way the mizers work for me and don't want less air draw. "There's no going back Bob" :laugh: (From TWD)
 

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I'd post a question on it over on the evolv forum if for no other reason then to find an answer why that is, and maybe help someone else avoid killing a board. I wonder if a cap gets a surge from an arc when the battery is pulled, pop another one in before the cap settles down and it get's another surge pushing it over the limit? Ever hear any pop? Just a guess, you guys know more then I when it comes to these individual components on the board. I'm was more a check pin out's against specs, if bad replace, I never got into replacing board components, not something they wanted us to ever do so I had no reason to educate myself that deep. I know the basics of how most work but just enough to be dangerous at that depth. :) Letting the magic smoke out is easy, hard to put back in, never did figure that trick out. :laugh:
Yeah well, I'm not sure if letting everyone know about this in the Evolv forum is a good idea. I think John or someone at Evolv should be notified and if they want it out, well it is on them then.

The DNA200 boards, it seems to always blow the BMIC (Battery Management IC) BQ76925. The board won't fire since it sees all of the cells at different voltages (even if they are exactly the same). So I thought I would bypass the first one I had by changing the battery type to power supply. That works, but now the balancing is up to the user to keep an eye on the cells. But I quickly learned that doesn't work well, since at least one cell does gets drained and you will have imbalanced cells in no time anyway. :(

I never studied what chips the 75C are using. But there it just keeps draining the cell slowly, but continues to fire until the battery is too low.
 
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I don't know if the speed at which the batteries are changed has anything to do with it but the board doesn't seem to like it, seems more so with 2 cells than 3.
Well 2 cells are faster to swap than three. :)
 

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Yeah well, I'm not sure if letting everyone know about this in the Evolv forum is a good idea. I think John or someone at Evolv should be notified and if they want it out, well it is on them then.

The DNA200 boards, it seems to always blow the BMIC (Battery Management IC) BQ76925. The board won't fire since it sees all of the cells at different voltages (even if they are exactly the same). So I thought I would bypass the first one I had by changing the battery type to power supply. That works, but now the balancing is up to the user to keep an eye on the cells. But I quickly learned that doesn't work well, since at least cell does gets drained and you will have imbalanced cells in no time anyway. :(

I never studied what chips the 75C are using. But there it just keeps draining the cell slowly, but continues to fire until the battery is too low.

"Yeah well, I'm not sure if letting everyone know about this in the Evolv forum is a good idea. I think John or someone at Evolv should be notified and if they want it out, well it is on them then."

Good points. :thumb:
 

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"Yeah well, I'm not sure if letting everyone know about this in the Evolv forum is a good idea. I think John or someone at Evolv should be notified and if they want it out, well it is on them then."

Good points. :thumb:
If they don't know by now they will never know.
 

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I'm not familiar with the Therion BF, but why not charge it through the USB port on the mod? Evolv seems to have a decent, built-in, charger and that eliminates swapping batteries. It's not a high speed charge, to be sure, but it s pretty reliable in my experience both with the 75 and 75C, even the dual battery 75Cs. The same applies to the balance charger in the 250 series and the 250C charges at 2 amps, max.
Well that is always my fallback plan B. I really don't like that plan and I did it yesterday to remind me of all of the things I hate about it. And I agree, I have no problems about Evolv's charging method. I don't worry about that at all except if the cells are imbalanced. Not that the DNA doesn't work, because it does. But it takes forever if it is really out of whack.

Okay you start charging by USB. Now you have a choice to vape while charging or not. If vape while charging, it will take forever to charge. And that cord starts becoming a huge pain.

Don't vape while charging, well it is going to take hours anyway. And the battery got low probably because you like the flavor from that atty and you are not ready to give it up. So now what? Take that atty off of the mod and throw it on something else? Yeah that is what I did yesterday. Then you have that hot coil thing happening with TC and I usually cheat and dial the temp down to 200°F and keep increasing it until the temp is right.

Or you could double your mods and attys. Yeah that would work too. But it is still so much easier to just swap batteries. Even if I have to wait 30 or 60 seconds before throwing in a charged set (to keep from blowing the board) just seems like a so much better idea to me. :)
 
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Surely you've discarded that cell by now? I had a sony vtc5a that got drained to 1.9v in a defective dna75 mod that vented in a different dna75 last week. Nuclear meltdown of the pos side of the batt carriage in the Lavabox. Of course I fixed the mod but I will never try using another Li-on cell that's been pulled down under 2.9v.
Ah! Good to know. No I haven't done anything with it and marked with a Sharpie "0.5v" which should remind me that one was drained to 0.5v. I have checked the voltage and it settled down to 4.12v for the past couple of days.

But after hearing what that Sony cell did, I believe I should test it on one of my RC chargers that I can run it endlessly through charge and discharge cycles and see how it handles that before trying it in a mod. But pushing a well used four year old cell through 20 hard charges and discharges will probably kill the cell anyway.
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Well that is always my fallback plan B. I really don't like that plan and I did it yesterday to remind me of all of the things I hate about it. And I agree, I have no problems about Evolv's charging method. I don't worry about that at all except if the cells are imbalanced. Not that the DNA doesn't work, because it does. But it takes forever if it is really out of whack.

Okay you start charging by USB. Now you have a choice to vape while charging or not. If vape while charging, it will take forever to charge. And that cord starts becoming a huge pain.

Don't vape while charging, well it is going to take hours anything. And the battery got low probably because you like the flavor from that atty and you are not ready to give it up. So now what? Take that atty off of the mod and throw it on something else? Yeah that is what I did yesterday. Then you have that hot coil thing happening with TC and I usually cheat and dial the temp down to 200°F and keep increasing it until the temp is right.

Or you could double your mods and attys. Yeah that would work too. But it is still so much easier to just swap batteries. Even if I have to wait 30 or 60 seconds before throwing in a charged set (to keep from blowing the board) just seems like a so much better idea to me. :)

I have more mods then I can use from good deals in co-op's and getting hooked on building mods. :) So I charge the mods via the boards, I have a six port high output charger with a bunch of usb cables setting on top of the desktop case under my desk. When a mod gets low I swap it out for another, I also like smaller mods so having multiples takes away the need for bigger mods.

Remember when I was disappointed not being able to watch the charge rate on the C board screens and made the clear plastic fire button so the LED was visible? That's because I like to glance down at the mods charging under the desk, they are tucked back where I won't catch a cable with my prosthetic foot and yank them onto the floor. I can't feel cords caught on that foot until it's too late, it's a problem when working in my shop with the trouble light cord and the air hose from the compressor, constantly have to look down to make sure I don't have that foot caught up in something that will make me nose dive to the concrete when I take a step....
 

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How's a big ole lung hit draw on that compared to that of a V1 or V2 mizer? More? Any tighter? Do you think a single plain, spaced wrapped nickle coil would perform well or it wouldn't be enough coil for it? I like the looks of the design but I'd like the way the mizers work for me and don't want less air draw. "There's no going back Bob" :laugh: (From TWD)

Well I can't say for the "Ghost Inhale" Cause I don't have one yet.
The deck looks like a Merlin Style witch would say to me Less Air Flow than the OG Mizer?
For Me thats fine cause I would restrict the Air with the Vape band on the Mizer, too much Air for Me.
I dont see why a smaller coil wouldn't work well in this style of Atty.
The placement of the Air flow seems to be the important thing, the coil cradling affect gives the Air a more precise hit on the coil, this equates to better Flavour production.
Just like the Kylin Mini works, the air is more precisely directed at the coil, not just let in thru a big hole to hit the coil at random. I can liken it a shot gun shell that spreads out hitting every thing at random, or a Rifle bullet that hits a target more precisely :)
 

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I like the 250D (no C's here) for its 2 amp charging, even when connected with data it's good.
On my 200's at work I connect a battery bank to my laptop to get 1 amp to them.
At home I have a good 2.4A per USB slot charger.
Never do I charge my 166 cells out of the mod...did that before....it has a new board now.
Also I'll never buy another 2 cell (8.4 volt) DNA mod again.
Ya think they'll shoot me for say'in it?
 

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Ah! Good to know. No I haven't done anything with it and marked with a Sharpie "0.5v" which should remind me that one was drained to 0.5v. I have checked the voltage and it settled down to 4.12v for the past couple of days.

But after hearing what that Sony cell did, I believe I should test it on one of my RC chargers that I can run it endlessly through charge and discharge cycles and see how it handles that before trying it in a mod. But pushing a well used four year old cell through 20 hard charges and discharges will probably kill the cell anyway.
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Naw, your rc charger/cycler probably maxes at 6amps or less discharge current. In a dna75 set to 75w it's yanking upwards of 20amps, that's probably why mine vented ie I suspect my previously over-discharged sony vtc5 had developed an internal resistance much higher than normal.
 

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I exclusively use onboard charging. If one Mod goes dead I just grab another Mod and throw the dead one on a USB cord. For me, thats as easy as it gets. I never have less than 2 Mods within reach, if for no other reason than for backup.
 

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Just in case, one must be prepared, I probably take around 10 to work. Pretty much just use one, my trusty Opus200

And I thought I was going overboard taking three mod/atty/flavor combo's with me when I make a trip to town for the afternoon, I don't feel so bad now. :laugh:

ETA: Though I remember the time early on vaping when my one ego twist setup ran out of power and I had no way to charge it while an hour away from home, I ended up stopping for a pack of cigs and swore that would be the last time I'd catch myself in that situation again, it was the last time.
 

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