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Mike, I saw some toggle bolts made out of plastic. The wings were attached and could be folded tight together to insert into a 1/4" hole. They expanded, held, when the screw was tightened, sort of like a Molly bolt, but could also be removed by unscrewing the screw and pushing it back in to fold those wings back again. I don't remember where I saw those.

Alternately, a 1/8" Molly bolt can be found that will handle up to 1" thick walls. They need a 1/4" hole if I remember correctly. If you can find a "spanner" for them it would keep them from spinning as you tighten them initially give the softness of the plaster.
 

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Mike, I saw some toggle bolts made out of plastic. The wings were attached and could be folded tight together to insert into a 1/4" hole. They expanded, held, when the screw was tightened, sort of like a Molly bolt, but could also be removed by unscrewing the screw and pushing it back in to fold those wings back again. I don't remember where I saw those.

Alternately, a 1/8" Molly bolt can be found that will handle up to 1" thick walls. They need a 1/4" hole if I remember correctly. If you can find a "spanner" for them it would keep them from spinning as you tighten them initially give the softness of the plaster.

Are you talking about something like this? I wonder how effective they are.
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Yes, that's what I'm talking about. I've used them on hollow core doors to hold up a coat hook. That coat hook was supporting about twenty pounds of clothes, towels and other crap the last time I was at that house. It may not be as strong as a metal Molly, but it still seems to be fairly strong.
 

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Are you talking about something like this? I wonder how effective they are.
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I'v tried those, not a very good solution for a lite to medium duty anchor :(
If you need a lite to medium duty anchor application? Wouldn't adhesive work?
I'v sen tile layers use silicon to hang Towel bars, soap dishes, TP roll holders on ceramic tiles.
A lot easier than drilling thru :) adhesives work well for lite to medium duty applications
 

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The challenge with those is the two of them I have seen are designed for hollow doors or 1/2" sheet rock, I havent seen any with a 3/4" shoulder in between the wings and the collar. Without that 3/4" shoulder they will try to expand inside the plaster and crumble it.

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I bought some of these Efla , and some 1/8" x 2" Molly Bolts, and I will try them in a closet where they wont be seen.

I love the look of these, similar principle to the plastic above, only the part sticking behind the wall collapses. I just cant find these metal ones in the US anywhere. I have read good things about the Efla plastic ones though.
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For heavy loads I am going to test one of these, supposedly just as strong as a traditional toggle bolt but require a 33% smaller drill hole. They are made by Hilti which is a company I really trust.
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Apparently they must still use a lot of plaster in the UK as I saw many innovative solutions over there, just not practical to get samples for a trial.

Any other suggestions?
I have the inside of a closet (mine - not hers) just waiting for the trials.
 
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Of the solutions you listed, if it were me I'd stick with the 1/8" Molly bolts. Known to work well and supports fairly heavy loads. We have a 3X8 foot plate glass wall mirror with a 3/8" wooden backer for a frameless look hanging on two 3/16" Molly bolts on a 1/2" sheetrock wall. Hard to beat in terms of load bearing, plus you can "peel" off the outer flange, push the rest back into the wall and patch the hole pretty easily.

I'd be worried about the Efla fasteners expanding inside the plaster and weakening it while the Molly will only expand in the wall cavity.

Just my two cents :)
 

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When dealing with plastered walls we use 1/8 or 1/4" moly bolts. We install the molys with all purpose drywall compound and set them by only tightening the screws until the anchor grips. We leave the drywall compound to dry for 48hrs and they are quite strong.
 

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Speaking of the Aromamizer, anybody try these Stream Crave Aromamizer Supreme RDTA Replacement Single Coil Plugs?

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I bought them awhile ago, but I never put them into use yet.

Those are for the Velocity Deck, I all ways run that deck in dual coil mode.
Today there are way better deck choices for the Supremes :)
The postless & the single coil are my choices, the single coil works great in the Supreme :)
It can whistle with the air flow restricted, I just open it a bit more & no more whistle :)
The postless deck works great in the Plus, now there are 2 new choices for the Plus a series deck & the single coil one's I just ordered :)
I run my Plus's with a big single coil in it on the postless deck, I'm looking forward to trying the new specifically made for a single coil deck in the Plus :)
The single coil deck for the Supreme is so easy to coil & wick, this is going to be the big advantage over the single coil on the postless deck in the Plus.
It works well but needs to be positioned & wicked perfectly :)
 

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