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DavidAmonettNashville

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Did anyone pause the part 2 vid at 9:43 and read the screen of the programmer? I didn't know they had that many different boards. Sounds like some interesting things are coming from Evolv.

I did !! I even left a comment on you tube about it..... Did you see the dna-go ? Is that a dna powered E-go battery? Moores law says in a few more months the possibility is definitely there.. How cool would a dna 12 Ego spinner be ?
 

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I did !! I even left a comment on you tube about it..... Did you see the Dna-go ? Is that a dna powered E-go battery? Moores law says in a few more months the possibility is definitely there.. How cool would a DNA 12 Ego spinner be ?

man uh, i wonder if phil could get in trouble for this.
 

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That's not what the videos show. It regulates a ways below battery voltage, and it's stable, accurate, and reliable. Again it helps to actually have the boards and actually have done the testing, rather than talking out of school.

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So... How come it doesn't give you 3.4V when you actually want 3.4V?
 

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So... How come it doesn't give you 3.4V when you actually want 3.4V?

1) That chart doesn't show a request of 3.4v.
2) The DNA20 will do 3.4v from a little off full charge.
3) You are being disingenuous and deliberately misrepresenting the point, although mostly you just don't know what you're talking about.

The DNAs can regulate below battery voltage, your claims that the don't are wrong. The specific number varies with charge state of the battery, and usually runs no lower than 3.4v-3.5v at full charge. At partial charge it can go below 3.0v.

This is a known behavior of the DNA chipset since its release and DNA users have learned that it is an insignificant concern. Lower wattages apply almost exclusively to consumer grade atomizers that are commonly available in 2+ ohm resistances. It is a trivial matter to wrap a coil properly for a high voltage regulator, and for DNAs it's not necessary or desirable to build subohm coils.
 
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No, that is a 3.3v request.

Ah right my mistake.

That said, how much difference would that make to the OP's point?

Unless a 3.4V request would make all the difference and have the chips respond accordingly, then his original point still stands.

ETA: again, I have no idea if a 3.4V request would actually make a difference. I'm asking a legitimate question
 

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Ah right my mistake.

That said, how much difference would that make to the OP's point?

Unless a 3.4V request would make all the difference and have the chips respond accordingly, then his original point still stands.

A 3.4-3.5v request would regulate properly and render his point incorrect, which it is.

Don't confuse yourself, the claim is that the DNAs do not regulate under battery voltage. They generally can do 0.3-0.5v lower than that throughout the battery's charge range, which gives a much wider envelope than if it actually did not go under battery voltage. This is why you do not see actual DNA owners complaining about this unless they are very new to the system and are trying to run poorly matched atomizers.
 

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I did !! I even left a comment on you tube about it..... Did you see the Dna-go ? Is that a dna powered E-go battery? Moores law says in a few more months the possibility is definitely there.. How cool would a DNA 12 Ego spinner be ?

A DNA 12 Ego would be a step up and below that it said DNA Go Float. I can't even guess at that one. They talk about new equipment to do smaller components. That can lead to more features and a smaller form factor.
 

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A 3.4-3.5v request would regulate properly and render his point incorrect, which it is.

Don't confuse yourself, the claim is that the DNAs do not regulate under battery voltage. They generally can do 0.3-0.5v lower than that throughout the battery's charge range, which gives a much wider envelope than if it actually did not go under battery voltage. This is why you do not see actual DNA owners complaining about this unless they are very new to the system and are trying to run poorly matched atomizers.

Well ok. So I'm under the impression that it doesn't, because I've owned a zna30 and a hana v3.

Neither of them could fire a 0.8 ohm coil at 15 watts or 18 watts without the resistance reading blinking using a fresh battery. Lazy to do the math now, but I'm pretty certain that's above a 3.4 V request. I think. Kinda sure. But I could be wrong.

I've gone on to ask in the zna30 thread as well as the hana thread, and everyone pretty much says the same: it doesn't down regulate

Again, not trying to pick a fight or anything. Coming as a authentic dna30 owner, it is smth I've experienced from more than 1 devices, and I wanna know why
 

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Well ok. So I'm under the impression that it doesn't, because I've owned a zna30 and a hana v3.

Neither of them could fire a 0.8 ohm coil at 15 watts or 18 watts without the resistance reading blinking using a fresh battery. Lazy to do the math now, but I'm pretty certain that's above a 3.4 V request. I think. Kinda sure. But I could be wrong.

I've gone on to ask in the zna30 thread as well as the hana thread, and everyone pretty much says the same: it doesn't down regulate

Again, not trying to pick a fight or anything. Coming as a authentic dna30 owner, it is smth I've experienced from more than 1 devices, and I wanna know why

The DNA30 is at the lower end of the range (~0.3v lower) and the DNA20 on the higher end (~0.5v). I have in my hand a DNA30 regulating 3.80v on a fresh battery as we speak. The DNAs do not have buck circuits however they do have a wider range than most people realize who have not actually tried to explore that range. You should try it sometime.

In your example, you were looking for a ~5 watt spread yet your upper wattage was only 23w. The proper thing to do is to increase the coil size to raise that upper wattage, since you have 7 watts of headroom. That places your lower wattage well within the voltage range of the chip, you lose no responsiveness and even gain some surface area.
 

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The DNA30 is at the lower end of the range (~0.3v lower) and the DNA20 on the higher end (~0.5v). I have in my hand a DNA30 regulating 3.80v on a fresh battery as we speak. The DNAs do not have buck circuits however they do have a wider range than most people realize who have not actually tried to explore that range. You should try it sometime.

In your example, you were looking for a ~5 watt spread yet your upper wattage was only 23w. The proper thing to do is to increase the coil size to raise that upper wattage, since you have 7 watts of headroom. That places your lower wattage well within the voltage range of the chip, you lose no responsiveness and even gain some surface area.

I thought the DNA had a 7watt&4volt minimum output?
 

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Hello everyone I have a question that I was hoping someone in here could answer. I just received a dna30 box mod in a trade its my first box mod and my first DNA and it is an evolv board but the builder of the box used a potentiometer instead of up/down buttons. Am I going to loose all of the options like stealth mode power lock and left/right mode? Or is there another way to access those options
 

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Hello everyone I have a question that I was hoping someone in here could answer. I just received a dna30 box mod in a trade its my first box mod and my first DNA and it is an evolv board but the builder of the box used a potentiometer instead of up/down buttons. Am I going to loose all of the options like stealth mode power lock and left/right mode? Or is there another way to access those options

yes, you do lose those options, at least externally. i am not positive as i never use pots, but you may be able to activate the up/down buttons directly on the board. i'm not sure if they are disabled when using the pot.
 

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Hello everyone I have a question that I was hoping someone in here could answer. I just received a dna30 box mod in a trade its my first box mod and my first DNA and it is an evolv board but the builder of the box used a potentiometer instead of up/down buttons. Am I going to loose all of the options like stealth mode power lock and left/right mode? Or is there another way to access those options

What kind of mod is it? A picture would help.
 
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