Thank you so much for all the responses! I hope I gave a reply to everyone, sorry if I missed you. I won't be ordering anything until Monday since I assume no one will be shipping over the weekend anyways, so please keep the advice coming.
eGo or Riva are the best all around starter kits. They fit all your criteria, and replacement parts are readily available.
It certainly sounds like it. Part of my problem is knowing the difference between the various eGo or Riva kits.
Hey! Welcome to the forums!
Thank you.
Hi, welcome to the forum
Here's what I recommend:
At Liberty Flights (don't forget to click the 20% button):
Riva510 lite bundle
a drip tip
one or two
eGo-T atomizers
one pack of
eGo-T tank cartridges
at iVape (having a sale):
about 2 packs of
boge LR 510 cartomizers
about 60ml of
e-liquid in different flavors and strengths
The Riva battery will last about 8 hours per charge. I don't recommend that you limit yourself to the tank system exclusively for a couple of reasons, number one reason is that a lot of people don't enjoy the tank system number two reason is that it makes it more difficult to taste a bunch of different juices (don't want to fill up a whole tank just to find out you don't like the flavor, imo). The top two vaping methods are still drip tips and cartomizers, so it's worth checking out both.
Good luck!
I appreciate the time you put into your post and breaking the stuff down for me. Why the lite bundle? Thanks for telling me about the concerns regarding tanks, I'll be sure to take that into account.
OOO, almost forgot:
Regarding getting a model that will serve you well down the line:
Most ecigs are basically disposable (with the exception of the mods that take rechargeable batteries) the parts don't last forever:
atomizers : 1-3 months
batteries: 300 charges (so depending on use, mine lasted about 10 months)
cartridges: virtually forever but you'll need to replace the stuffing
cartomizers: meant to be single use but most people can refill about a week
tank carts: same as cartridges but no stuffing
My point is, everything is going to die and be replaced eventually but you can get a good kit that lasts for your first 6 months to a year... trust me, you'll probably end up buying a couple of kits so don't stress too much about the first one. IMO, it's like stressing out about buying your first pair of shoes; maybe you'll love them maybe you'll hate them.. next pair will be better, no biggie.
Lots of good info here, thanks again. Some of the vocab is hard to follow. Also good advice about not stressing the first purchase. I was not aware that they all are considered "disposable", so ignorance cleared up there.
Hi and welcome to ECF. The others have made some good recommendations. An eGo or Riva will be a good starting point, and they're cheap nowadays. Both will take tank atty's so you can either get them at the same time, or wait and see if you want to later. Starter kits are just that. They give you everything you need to get started, except refill juice. A kit and about 30 to 50 ml of juice and you're set. Get juice in several different flavors and a couple of different strengths so you're more likely to find a flavor and nic strength that works for you.
Thanks for the welcome and the advice. I'll do that.
Rosa - anything special needed to get juice into the tanks?
Whatever juice you get to start might not impress you - it may be 100% PG Chinese juice so don't go wild trying flavors - just get what you need to start and to figure out your correct nic level. Your future juices will probably be purchased for US juice mixers in nice PG/VG blends that are a bit smoother (70pg/30vg or within 10% of that are popular blends). PG lets through the most TH, VG smooths it but makes more vapor
Thank you for warning me about that.
Disposables are pretty crappy. You definitely want to get a good starter kit. Personally I recommend Halo, because that is what I now use, and my experience has been great! (probably not recommended for tanks though, but I'm not sure, I've never used tanks) Others here will definitely try to convince you that you need a system with a bigger battery, and it's not a bad idea either.
The one thing I will say is, DON'T get a Blu starter kit. You'd probably think it was OK for a while, especially if you enjoy your disposable, but you'll soon become very disappointed with Blu.
Appreciate the warning. Blu doesn't seem to have a good rep round these parts. I haven't heard about Halo, anyone else have any thoughts about them?
It's way more convenient to fill using a blunt tipped syringe or small pipette, but you don't really need one.
Do any of the e-juices come with a syringe?
There no rule that a noobie needs to have their first PV a starter kit..tho the admittedly I did. I 1st started with a 510 then XL510 then the eGo/Torando then XL eGos etc. etc. and still chasing for something better while spending a ton of cash....enough cash to buy every poster above all new PVs. Then I tried my first inexpensive selfjuicer mod. Its different for eveyone but the heavens opened up and I new I was on the right track. It wasn't till I was willing to invest in the hi-end model I knew I need not ever buy another PV again. Im not telling you thats what you should do but look into it before you get in the rut of upgrade after upgrade...just food for thought. Best of luck on your vaping journey.
I am not opposed to modifications, but I am a little wary of them. If I am this confused discussing starter kits I fear a mod may be way out of my element.
So true so true... But I know that had someone told me 2 months ago to just skip everything and go straight to the hi-end model, I would have ignored that advice (now I sit here happily vaping on a Darwin, with way too much money having been spent on everything else LOL)
Wow, 230 bucks. I might be interested, but to be honest I'm not entirely sure what the difference between it and the other models suggested are. Maybe that proves your theory.
The only concerns I have with recommending a mod to a newbie:
If it breaks they have no back up
Few vapers on the new members forum will be able to help if they have questions
Often they have to wait for more to be made or have to email some guy to get on the list, delaying their "start vaping" date
...other than that, great idea.
Some more great input, Rosa. All three of those things would bother me. I'm at the point where I want to say good riddance to dip.
I agree with you and that would be terrible if that were to happen to a first timer. Also there the cost of a high end mod too. I constantly suggest it cause I know that a simple 510 kit for example will be the beginning of an expensive upgrades. Again admittedly it was a simple 510 kit that was the start of my last cigartette I ever smoked. I just want to save an expensive journey so I try point out other options. Btw I was lucky to have 2 batts in that first 510 kit I started with because one died the first week so it can happen with anything.
That's a valid point. I don't want to get stuck on an upgrade treadmill - but it is quite a commitment to someone just jumping in.
I just got the first Riva 510 kit from Liberty Flights in today. It came in a nice flip top black simulated leatherette box. Everything is wrapped and sealed and the price was $29.99 + $2.99 shipping. Total was a little over $32. Great deal. This one was for my Brother in Law.
I ordered on Monday and got it on Friday. Not bad for California to Georgia!
Thanks for the info about the shipping time. I'm quite a bit closer to Cali, so hopefully that will work in my favor. Why was yours $32? I must be missing that kit.
I would add that the learning curve for mods is much steeper too. There was a post a couple of months ago from a nuB that bought a 6v mod based on reading rave reviews. This poor guy spent the better part of a week trying to get it to just be useable. He'd ordered the wrong atty's, was using cart's that were melting, and had no idea of what it was supposed to do.
I think it's best for those uninitiated in the art of vaping to pursue a simpler route. Everyone needs a backup rig anyway.
Alright, I'll keep that in mind. I know I would probably end up like that poor guy.
My wife and I went with an Njoy Npro for our first e-cig. They sell a lot of them, so we figured they must be fine. After one day, I ordered a mod. Mine happened to be a 6v Pure Smoker Prodigy V3.1, but there are many worthy mods out there. My wife same deal. But, we got her a KR808D-1 for her Npro replacement. She prefers one that is a screw on the carto and go type and does not like to stand out in public (people look at me funny when I whip out my 3.1 in public and puff away). I think maybe some of them think I am doing drugs or something.
I mention these things, because I think they are key points to consider for any new(er) vaper. Do you want/need something that resembles an analog (regular cigarette), or are you willing to stand out a bit in public places. You can use cartomizers on the mods. So, other than their generally slightly larger size, this is less an issue. There is a lot more flexibility in using a mod and I really enjoy the ease with which I can drip juice with mine. Cartos just don't give me the kind of flavor and vapor I get from my atomizers. I only use them when I drive and other times that I have to be mobile or inconspicuous. Remember though, that I am vaping at 6volts and this is very different from the typical 3.7v "starter" e-cigs and popular kits like the riva and ego. I just don't enjoy the experience nearly as much with low resistance atty's and lower voltages. The second thing I would point out is that even though I have to buy some atty's once in a while. My mod could virtually last me forever. My batteries are replaceable and I always have some spares around. They are much cheaper than having to replace the entire e-cig like with the rivas/egos.
I do occasionally steal one of my wife's batts and a few of her cartridges when I go out to events where I need to stealth vape and/or can't take time away to drip. I can't wait to get home to my atty's when this happens though... lol.
So, consider these things when you decide what road to go down. E-cigs and even the mods are actually quite cheap compared to analogs (remember how much you have been spending on just one carton of analogs?). Use some of that ex-analog cigarette money to get a couple of different devices and use your own experience to decide what floats your boat.
I wish you luck in your journey. It has changed my life forever for the better and I hope you make the switch too.
Thanks for your story. Pretty awesome, and I hope to follow in your foot steps. What does the higher voltage get you?
