fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

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I hadn't mentioned this; but, when I was doing the air stone (fishstix) I was annoyed by (but tried not to notice) a persistent sound of very fine grit rubbing whenever I replaced or adjusted my top cap. Yes, I washed and torched the stone very thoroughly before installing it. . . . . . full disclosure.

Cotton isn't safe?

cotton, i guess so, but to me its like coffee or wine, one study will come out and say its safe and good for you, then a year later there is another study done, but this time its bad for you, who really knows, you know?
 

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I'm vaping both at the same time with the same juice, the .8 on a provari, the .5 on a Sigelie. Both at max watts. The .5 has seen too many mls and needs a clean-up, but is still performing great. Its instant-on, nice and smooth, but has a bit more edginess (in a good way) on the vape than the .8. The .8 is slooooow. But once it gets going it is very smooth. Almost too smooth, no throat hit except for the 6mgs of nic in the juice. It almost seems like its asking for more power. Both produce the same quantity of vapor. Large clouds! They are both great.

I find myself using the .5mm regularly and then I reach over for the .8mm and then go back to .5mm. More so because the .8mm is on a Provari mini and that 700mAh battery last only for about 10 minutes of vape time at the amp draw level.

If I had a mechanical and could push 20 watts into the .8mm, I would use it 100% of the time. But since I dont, the .5mm is the better balance.

Sorry, long response to your question and then some, but until you asked, I really did not think about the comparison.

Short Answer:The .5mm hits great!

Bottom line: .5mm for VV/VW devices, .8mm for Mechanical devices. Sorta the same conclusion as round wire 30g vs 28g.

Hmm... I think I'll just order .5mm from Zivipf, actually waiting for their .6mm but no stock 3 weeks already... Can't wait to try ribbon kanthal... Thank you gdeal!
 

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I have a mini with the extension tube....and trust me the batteries (18490) don't last that long...couple hours. The mini itself uses 18350 and I would be hard pressed to try using the ZAP with that.

thats funny, i wasnt sure of the battery size, but yesterday i set-up my 18500 caravela that i just recieved, and had ordered a few 18490 aw imr batterys , so today was the first day of 100 percent use, with my ac-9 on the caravela and a 1 ohm coil, i installed a new battery in it this morning and am still vaping on it right now. now i vape 2 set-ups during the day and use both equally, so i would have to say that i am getting about 4 hrs on the 18490 on a mechanical mod. now i suppose using them in a vv devise you would only get half of that maybe?
 

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thats funny, i wasnt sure of the battery size, but yesterday i set-up my 18500 caravela that i just recieved, and had ordered a few 18490 aw imr batterys , so today was the first day of 100 percent use, with my ac-9 on the caravela and a 1 ohm coil, i installed a new battery in it this morning and am still vaping on it right now. now i vape 2 set-ups during the day and use both equally, so i would have to say that i am getting about 4 hrs on the 18490 on a mechanical mod. now i suppose using them in a vv devise you would only get half of that maybe?

And that's the main reason I am going home to set up my AGA and using it with a P18 :)
 

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i was wondering what that p18 was? i guess it is a mech? is the p a precise?

Yes P18= Precise 18650 The one with the black band :)
 

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Hey Deadperfect: I have seen a couple of videos saying to stay out of rms mode. Not even sure why they made it an option. P Busardo has a whole review on the Vamo on youtube and I think he discusses the rms thing on there. Possibly a good one to take a look at. Man, if my mod was behaving like that it would have gone through a window long ago. Hilarious man, your life begins now . . .
 

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well with me after be riddled with issues of electronic cheap batteries (well sometimes not so cheap) I decided to go mechanical, am I am glad I did when I did... one of the guys at the office noticed my smoktech natural about a month ago and since then he has gone through 4 batteries of the other kinds, today he conceded defeat and went the smoktech as well. Sure I want the caravela etc but its too costly and have to wait too long.

I have a complete turning, milling, presses, benders, CNC and well you name it machines at my disposal and stainless steel just sitting in shelves brass copper alloys etc and I know what we pay for the raw materials and if I could be bothered I could turn one and mill one myself on a weekend and the raw material could not come in at more than $5

So I cant justify spending sooooo much when I know I could make similar yeah probably not as classy unless I involved the design engineers but all I need is a button and a tube with a 510 connector on top. oh yeah the connectors are like $3 so almost doubled the cost with that...

Im quite happy to pay $50 because someone who spends time designing needs to be paid for it, I get it, but $200

Same goes for the atty's but they are more involved than the mods, yet somehow they are cheaper... (well except for a couple)

And as far as the wicks, well come on.... gee.... I dont even want to start on that one....

Yet here we are... all spending, all trying and the costs are high

I guess in our own little way we find justification in it because were saving money (let alone our health) every day we dont buy a packet of smokes...

Arghhhh maybe I shouldnt be writing when I am drinking.... but thats the time I sit back, read some reports, read some forums, watch some funny people on youtube and sit back and relax after yet another wild week at the office...

OMG I wrote too much

Elias
 

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well with me after be riddled with issues of electronic cheap batteries (well sometimes not so cheap) I decided to go mechanical, am I am glad I did when I did... one of the guys at the office noticed my smoktech natural about a month ago and since then he has gone through 4 batteries of the other kinds, today he conceded defeat and went the smoktech as well. Sure I want the caravela etc but its too costly and have to wait too long.

I have a complete turning, milling, presses, benders, CNC and well you name it machines at my disposal and stainless steel just sitting in shelves brass copper alloys etc and I know what we pay for the raw materials and if I could be bothered I could turn one and mill one myself on a weekend and the raw material could not come in at more than $5

So I cant justify spending sooooo much when I know I could make similar yeah probably not as classy unless I involved the design engineers but all I need is a button and a tube with a 510 connector on top. oh yeah the connectors are like $3 so almost doubled the cost with that...

Im quite happy to pay $50 because someone who spends time designing needs to be paid for it, I get it, but $200

Same goes for the atty's but they are more involved than the mods, yet somehow they are cheaper... (well except for a couple)

And as far as the wicks, well come on.... gee.... I dont even want to start on that one....

Yet here we are... all spending, all trying and the costs are high

I guess in our own little way we find justification in it because were saving money (let alone our health) every day we dont buy a packet of smokes...

Arghhhh maybe I shouldnt be writing when I am drinking.... but thats the time I sit back, read some reports, read some forums, watch some funny people on youtube and sit back and relax after yet another wild week at the office...

OMG I wrote too much

Elias

Stay tuned for the Elias Mod? Followed by the Elias atty - purpose built for ceramic wicks
 

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Well guys I just received the email with the breakdown of the Sintered Ceramic White Airstones I recently purchased
these are the only things in it

We are glad to tell you that the mineral is exactly made from
calcium(Ca),
Carbon (C)
Magnesium(Mg)

Well I know magnesium is good for the body, heck I take tablets every day, calcium is what we have in us already and we are made of carbon....


If carbon in the air is too high (for example a coal mine) sometimes lungs can get irritated, but the carbon content in a white ceramic would be so low...

Additionally it's is all bonded at the atomic level being sintered nothing should "detach"

Elias
 

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Magnesium does have fairly low ignition temp: 476 degrees C. I don't know if this is an issue as coils could get pretty close to that temp. Depends on how it is contained in the wick, if it is fully alloyed with the other materials it could be OK but be careful mate. Remember burning magnesium in science class, hell it even burns under water.

Cheers.
 

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you know for me i didnt go to ceramic because of the scare, and my ss wicks were working fine and never had any problems with them. i just was simply curious, and i am glad i was, for the flavor of ceramic is by far better. the ceramic wicks can keep up, its just another learning curve.

That's the way it works. If it weren't for the experimenters, we'd all still be vaping cigalikes, and 3 piece systems. While I have no interest in the ceramics, at this point anyway, my hat's off to those who are heading up the learning process.
 

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Magnesium does have fairly low ignition temp: 476 degrees C. I don't know if this is an issue as coils could get pretty close to that temp. Depends on how it is contained in the wick, if it is fully alloyed with the other materials it could be OK but be careful mate. Remember burning magnesium in science class, hell it even burns under water.

Cheers.

I doubt that there would be problems with the Magnesium in a wick - while Magnesium is nasty stuff in it's pure form, I would think that it would be exposed to much higher temperatures during the sintering process than it ever would be in an atty.

But then, what do I know - I'm not a materials Engineer (I don't even play one on the Internet)...
 
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Hey Guys...on batteries.

When I said "vape time" I meant actual current flowing and the atty firing. Depending upon how I vape during the day, they can last a couple of hours. I have also gone through them in one sitting on a chain vape..too.

The 18350's I have are AW IMRs and they have 700 mAH. The faster drain rate of the lower ohm coil and the fact that I need 3 extra seconds of heat up time on every 10 second pull are the battery killer factors here.
 

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I doubt that there would be problems with the Magnesium in a wick - while Magnesium is nasty stuff in it's pure form, I would think that it would be exposed to much higher temperatures during the sintering process than it ever would be in an atty.

But then, what do I know - I'm not a materials Engineer (I don't even play one on the Internet)...

Well thats what I am hoping too that its bonding temperature is much higher... but heh yeah like you say, Im not a materials engineer either....

time will tell....

it's going to have to glow red hot without collapsing in any way just like the ceramic wicks and the fish stix....
 

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Hey Guys...on batteries.

When I said "vape time" I meant actual current flowing and the atty firing. Depending upon how I vape during the day, they can last a couple of hours. I have also gone through them in one sitting on a chain vape..too.

The 18350's I have are AW IMRs and they have 700 mAH. The faster drain rate of the lower ohm coil and the fact that I need 3 extra seconds of heat up time on every 10 second pull are the battery killer factors here.

heh I have my moments with vaping, sometimes chain, sometimes hardly at all.... when chain drinking then chain vaping, then chain snoring
 
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