fc-2000 porous ceramic wick

[DSmooch]

Nam, I haven't followed all of whats been done by Dan, he's too productive! I'm a big fan tho. Trick (if he also wrote the article) is simply pointing out he has no clue of what the fc2000 is made of and even less about the fish stone. Honestly, I don't either. The "fc" was a quick and brilliant marketing strike taking advantage of the buzz created by Dan. Nobody asked who what when where??? we all jumped on it no questions asked. Maybe it is time to ask... so many qualified ppl in here. All the assumptions make sense, I truly hope they do...

 

[MikeE3]

Nam, I haven't followed all of whats been done by Dan, he's too productive! I'm a big fan tho. Trick (if he also wrote the article) is simply pointing out he has no clue of what the fc2000 is made of and even less about the fish stone. Honestly, I don't either. The "fc" was a quick and brilliant marketing strike taking advantage of the buzz created by Dan. Nobody asked who what when where??? we all jumped on it no questions asked. Maybe it is time to ask... so many qualified ppl in here. All the assumptions make sense, I truly hope they do...

Not slighting Dan at all when I say this - the FC was 1st, the Petsmart came next. The original 'Next Best ...' thread started off w/ Dan introducing a commercial product. The Petsmart took off from there.

 

[vapdivrr]

20mm diameter. On 8 slices you are losing minimally around 26mm on the circumference to the saw-cut, 37mm left for 8 strips, with 4.5mm each strip on the outside ... it's tight, but doable if your clamping and cuts are precise for a total of 24 roughs. The little 545 dremel will do about 32 - 36. There is also a good chance that the stone won't take the vice/clamping pressure after they've been chopped into 4 strips. It's a small world when compared to tiles, ground or roof ... lol

The roughs would also have to be cut in such a manner that the end user can easily form a wick without having to shave away as much as half an inch.

i have a better picture of it now, thanks

 

[Elias]

It would not surprise me to find that the FC stands for Fish tank air Curtain stone

 

[vapdivrr]

Personally I think that the cheapest way is best, if I end up only making 4 wicks from a $2 fish stick then Im happy with that, rather than changing discs so I can make 8

It wouldnt bother me spending $20 on a single disc if it means I can cut and cut and cut, if I loose 50% of the material cutting then so be it...

Just saying...

Elias

thats kind of what i was thinking

 

[vapdivrr]

Sorry, i am confused by "fs", yes a comparison of batt. power between 325 s.s. and the fc., and also used with the 28k & the 32k.

fs= fish sticks

 

[Trick]

Nam, I haven't followed all of whats been done by Dan, he's too productive! I'm a big fan tho. Trick (if he also wrote the article) is simply pointing out he has no clue of what the fc2000 is made of and even less about the fish stone. Honestly, I don't either. The "fc" was a quick and brilliant marketing strike taking advantage of the buzz created by Dan. Nobody asked who what when where??? we all jumped on it no questions asked. Maybe it is time to ask... so many qualified ppl in here. All the assumptions make sense, I truly hope they do...

Yeah, I wrote it, and that's exactly the point I was trying to make. Not "Oh my God, the sky is falling, we're all going to die!" but, "Does anyone actually know what's in these things?"

I've raised fish myself, but there are plenty of things I'd put in a salt-water tank that I wouldn't vape. I think it's great that people are trying out alternatives, but not having any idea what's in a ceramic wick just troubles me a little, especially after getting a look at some of the ingredients that are very common in ceramics. I mean, there have been high lead levels found in stuff we eat off of (try a Google search for "lead ceramic" some time), and I'm not seeing a lot of glaze on these wicks. I'm not sure "it didn't kill my fish" is enough to put my mind at ease on these.

 

[TBinAZ]

Yeah, I wrote it, and that's exactly the point I was trying to make. Not "Oh my God, the sky is falling, we're all going to die!" but, "Does anyone actually know what's in these things?"

I've raised fish myself, but there are plenty of things I'd put in a salt-water tank that I wouldn't vape. I think it's great that people are trying out alternatives, but not having any idea what's in a ceramic wick just troubles me a little, especially after getting a look at some of the ingredients that are very common in ceramics. I mean, there have been high lead levels found in stuff we eat off of (try a Google search for "lead ceramic" some time), and I'm not seeing a lot of glaze on these wicks. I'm not sure "it didn't kill my fish" is enough to put my mind at ease on these.

Good argument, but I think it's been covered before that the amount of heat needed to release any of the detrimental elements of the ceramics exceeds what we are applying with the wicks. I'm no chemist, but just figured I would add this.

 

[vapdivrr]

thanks iv been kind of stalking this thread for a little bit lol and trying to read and catch up i watched the video in the beginning of the thread and i have to say thanks cause vapdivrr is always helping me out...i re wrapped to 1.7 and threw in some juice im not so fond of to break in the wick so hopefully soon this will start...also im using a ZAP/provari i dont no if it has anything to do with the zap

with the zap i suppose you are using a 1/8 wick? i know one thing is that the zap is kind of short, so most have to cut down the wick a little bit. so how many wraps? maybe 4? anyways it is imperitive that the coils are really tight, if not you will get dry hits, and decreased flavor & vapor. the best way to wrap is the ehw, hot wrapped, this video is also in this thread. it does take some practice to make a hot wrap, but after a couple of trys you will get it. if you decide just to wrap the coil by hand, then the break in period will take some time, because of slight gaps in the coil. it may take anywhere between 2 to 5 tanks, depending on how big the gaps are, so i really do reccomend the hot wrap. with 30g wire it is possible to make a pretty tight coil by just hand wrapping, but no where near as tight as the ehw. sometimes you may coil a wick and it might seem pretty tight, but if you look at it with a magnifying glass you will see that it may not be as tight as you thought. so how did you wrap your latest coil? wick size? wraps? and volts? you need to be careful with the zap, for many have said it is a wick eater.

 

[FrogHat]

The biggest problem with the ZAP is the amount of room between the wick and the ZAP for the juice to flow to the coil......IMO

 

[DSmooch]

Not slighting Dan at all when I say this - the FC was 1st, the Petsmart came next. The original 'Next Best ...' thread started off w/ Dan introducing a commercial product. The Petsmart took off from there.

Oh ok, thanks Mike. I personnaly didn't know of it before RiP (the Ac9 maker) endorsed it and from what I remember, Dan's thread already had a few legs when that happended... but thanks for the correction

 

[pdib]

How are the threaded bolt experiments progressing, any updates?

Thanks for asking. Lost interest. It wasn't "riveting" enough, I guess. Got it on back burner tho, and Jasl90 might actually acquire a ceramic screw for further experiments; at which point I'll feel obligated to do something. Back burner is clever tho, and I can tell the pot is still simmering.

BTW: you thought your "Flintstones" were expensive? Price out a 1" 4-40 ceramic screw. I guess they probably don't break when you look at 'em tho.

 

[vapdivrr]

Oh ok, thanks Mike. I personnaly didn't know of it before RiP (the Ac9 maker) endorsed it and from what I remember, Dan's thread already had a few legs when that happended... but thanks for the correction

actually i do believe dsmooch had it right. i believe dan was messing around with them first, then the word got out and the next thing i was seeing was the fc-2000's . not entirely sure, but dan has been messing around with all this stuff for a long time.

 

[Elias]

I thought I posted before, but I will say it again as I couldnt find it, could FC stand for Fish Curtain, as in Fish Air Stone Curtain ? it wouldn't surprise me looking at close ups from FC and PetSmart stix side by side earlier in the thread

 

[MikeE3]

actually i do believe dsmooch had it right. i believe dan was messing around with them first, then the word got out and the next thing i was seeing was the fc-2000's . not entirely sure, but dan has been messing around with all this stuff for a long time.

Could very well be. I was just going by memory about the progression of the 'Next best....' thread itself.

 

[vapdivrr]

I thought I posted before, but I will say it again as I couldnt find it, could FC stand for Fish Curtain, as in Fish Air Stone Curtain ? it wouldn't surprise me looking at close ups from FC and PetSmart stix side by side earlier in the thread

i thought it stood for something else, but cannot remember at the moment, but i dont think it was what you said. it had something to do with the high temperature it was fired at, thats it "fire something///// wait fired ceramic, thats it

 

[vapdivrr]

Could very well be. I was just going by memory about the progression of the 'Next best....' thread itself.

yes you are correct about the thread itsef, but he was doing it before that

 

[vapdivrr]

and they are fired at 2000 degrees, so /// fired ceramic at 2000 degrees// fc2000

 

[Hello World]

I decided to try a couple of things with the new "roughs" bubble-stix I cut up yesterday.

First, I made the wick longer so it nearly touches the roof of the cap to act as reservoir for more juice. This has worked out really well for short burst of chain-vaping. Juice comes from both top and bottom for brief heavy vaping spurts.

Secondly, I shaved the 9/64 ceramic wick down to 1/8 going through the wick hole so as not to restrict juice from traveling up the outside of the wick.

Thirdly, I managed to get a super-tight Kanthal 30ga hand-wrap around the larger 9/64 top of the wick. Took only about half a tank of PG and 30 min. later she was all fully broken in. Been a great vape all day.

This setup works a little better than the very first 1/8 CF-2000s I installed into my other AGA-T2 last week -- a richer vape. Will do my 4mm AGA-T2 a little later ... this is working out really well.



Edit: This AGA-T2's wickhole was previously bored to 9/64.

 

[StaircaseWit]

How the heck did you insert that wick in the hole?