FDA aprooved ejuice?

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Yeah, um, no. The Chinese have no fear of recourse from false statements regarding US government approval. What are we gonna do? Nuke em? I think a good bit of conjecture is neccessary when deciphering what is and isn't legit when reading Chinese descriptions.

As far as I know, wizardlabs uses FDA-approved ingredients in laboratory conditions, but they don't claim to be FDA approved.
 

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Oh I don't know if I agree that they will never approve it. I think that as more and more people make the switch from smoking cigarettes to far, far less harmful vaping they will have more pressure to actually do something. Right now the vaping "community" (I use that word in the same way that you would call cigarette smokers a "smoking community") although growing, is still too small to cut through all the bureaucratic red tape of the FDA. Once enough people start doing it they will certainly be forced to rule one way or another and since they haven't and won't fully ban cigarettes, they certainly won't do the same to vaping.

I will probably post my thoughts on this more in depth for anyone who cares to read it in the future but in short I think it is a very safe bet to say that vaping will eventually be regulated with set age restrictions, point of sale restrictions, quality control restrictions, production restrictions and of course everyone's favorite, Taxation. I certainly don't fear any kind of abolition or prohibition. In contrast to what Jimzilla states, DIY may actually be the part that becomes more strictly regulated due to fears of people using a controlled substance (nicotine) in improper quantities much in the way that brewing your own alcohol can only be done in small controlled batches. I feel that we can expect to see a combination of alcohol and tobacco legislation applied to vaping in the (possibly near) future. Whenever there's a big enough demand for something, there is an opportunity for the government to make money from it. Whether this is a good or bad thing is up for debate, but I certainly think it will bring vaping more to the forefront of the mainstream which I think any vaper would like to see.
 

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The FDA was responsible for a $246B tobacco settlement between big tobacco and the federal government over 25 years. It's not in their best interest to "approve" something that could eclipse cigarettes as a commonly sold product for nicotine delivery. There's too much money at stake.

I don't see the FDA approving ecigs until they've sucked all the money from big tobacco that they can. I imagine ecigs will be the replacement target once that ruling plays out. Good luck with finding the kind of damage in ecigs that was traced to burning tobacco. Ecigs are little more than a better, more satisfying version of the nicotine inhaler.

How is this much different than an ecig? We are lucky that the courts didn't allow ecigs to be labelled as pharmaceuticals. Then, we might be using an ecig tightly regulated as a pharma product.

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Never bought any liquid from China and never will. Why would you put anything in your body that's not regulated?

Just an FYI: eJuice manufactured in the USA is not regulated either. This is the issue that the AEMSA is trying to address, but they aren't there (yet).

AEMSA | American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association

Edit: The above organisation isn't trying to regulate the industry, but rather impose standards to it's own members.
 

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Never bought any liquid from China and never will. Why would you put anything in your body that's not regulated?

I would never buy a imported juice either. I do think the Italian company FlavourArt makes perfectly safe flavors so i take no issue with that. i don't care about FDA regulations...though they will be coming i am sure....as is taxation like other tobacco products.

My priorites...completely American USDA certified and inspected ingredients... USP vegetable glycerine, USDA certified organic flavors in an organic ethyl alcohol base, distilled water.

i am moving away from all PG juice so that pretty much eliminates the artificial flavors noted above too :)

Any vendor who will not openly tell you what's in their juice or where they get their ingredients is cause for concern....another concern...all these plastic bottles leaching chemicals into your juice.
 

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Ask Coca-Cola what's in their product. Good luck. The label covers the vague generic ingredients. "Flavoring" is an unknown in most cases because it's a closely guarded concoction.

EJuice vendors all have their specific mixes or they order in bulk from a major juice producer and re-bottled it and add their own label. In the early days, lots of vendors operated out of their homes and used the kitchen sink in the process rather than a sterile lab environment. It's getting better, though, as more ecigs are sold and more juice is produced.
 

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I'm afraid that FDA will never approve of vaping and will eventually try to legislate it out of existence. DIY may be only future option, and then only if you can get nic base. They just don't understand harm reduction.

Well they understand harm reduction if you are a big pharma company spending big bucks in lobbying.
 

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Vapiong is completely different to smoking and can't be compared. They might just as well try to ban new shape of bread because it might look like a turd.

As far as I can tell, that's exactly what they're trying to do... though in this case, the turd is smoking. We're getting caught in a crossfire because we do something that looks like it, not because it's anything harmful (and, in fact, it surely saves lives).
 

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Just an FYI: eJuice manufactured in the USA is not regulated either. This is the issue that the AEMSA is trying to address, but they aren't there (yet).

AEMSA | American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association

Edit: The above organisation isn't trying to regulate the industry, but rather impose standards to it's own members.

While it may not be regulated, some are registered and taking steps in anticipation.

Ahlusion E-Liquids said:
In compliance with current laws, Ahlusion, LLC is fully registered with the U.S. Food & Drug Administration pursuant to Section 305 of the United States Public Health and Bioterrorism Act of 2002, P.L. 107-188.
Our FDA registration number: 15790641142
 
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