FDA is scaring me
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I live in new york and bloomberg is attempting to classify e-cigs are tobacco products. This better not happen. What if we don't use nicotine in our flavors and it's not actually a tobacco product.
Here is the sequence of events that is required to happen by law...
The FDA "proposes" their intended regulations, which is what is known as the "deeming regulations" you may have heard about.
After those regulations are proposed, there will be a public comment period which can be as short as 30 days or it can be much longer.
After the FDA reviews the comments (supposedly) they will then issue their final regulations.
I see nic base supply plumetting in the near future. On the bright side if you smoke 0nic you don't have to worry. They can't ban or re-classify PG, VG, and food flavor concentrates. The only thing they could potentially affect is the sale and/or availability of Nic base in the US. And/or they could stop the import of nic base if they are really commited enough to get the customs to hound down on it. You can extract crystalized nicotine from tobacco but it's more trouble then it's worth.
You could always extract nicotine from tobacco itself. So it would be impossible for them to take this away.
The probably can re-classify PG/VG, but they likely would not. The last thing big tobacco wants is a crackdown, drug war type, limitation on nicotine. My personal goal is to go to 0 nic and keep on vapin'. They can take their rules and shove them where their heads are.
Yeah mytsmooth I'm wanting to get to 0nic too. I started on 24 1.5-2 months ago and it's too strong so I stuck with 18 and 16, well yesterday I dumped some random amount of VG into my 3/4 empty bottle of 20mg so now it's a bit over half full, been vaping it for a day and a half now and it seems to be working mostly. So I could probably hang with 12mg or so. And the flavor tastes better diluted. I've got a sensitive set of taste buds so too much flavoring tastes nasty.
And even if they did do a war on drugs type deal against nicotine importing BT would still get theirs. But yeah moving to 0nic would just be that much better because I wouldn't have to worry about running out and PG/VG/Flavors are dirt cheap.
And even if they did do a war on drugs type deal against nicotine importing BT would still get theirs. But yeah moving to 0nic would just be that much better because I wouldn't have to worry about running out and PG/VG/Flavors are dirt cheap.
If you're that frightened, Buy some bulk nic- we'll teach you how to use it. Most vaper's, if pressed, could probably wean themselves down to zero nic in a yearish.
We here are the lucky ones- we can just buy bulk. It's the people that need to get off tobacco products in the future that I'm concerned about.
I'm concerned for my grandkids. And their friends and family.
Well lets see
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hmmmmmmmm..."personal vapers" are just another ALTERNATIVE form of nicotine delivery without the TAR or Carbon Monoxide
They want to regulate that but NOTHING on the above?
What does that tell you...they are not doing it to protect people from eeeeeeevil nicotine...they are trying to protect the financial interests of BT
Nicotine Patches | eBay
Nicotine Gum 2mg | eBay
hmmmmmmmm..."personal vapers" are just another ALTERNATIVE form of nicotine delivery without the TAR or Carbon Monoxide
They want to regulate that but NOTHING on the above?
What does that tell you...they are not doing it to protect people from eeeeeeevil nicotine...they are trying to protect the financial interests of BT
Second time posting in the newcomers section, but this topic seems appropriate. My wife and I have been trying to quit regular cigarettes for several years. Patch to the little nicotine puffers to Chantix (tried wellbutrin but that didn't last long) We've been using the cartridge type ecigs marketed locally by our Native American bretheren and all is going well. I've actually moved up to a eGo-c twist with a clearomizer (CE4) also sold by one of the Tuscarora stores here in Lewiston, NY. I think I've been bitten by the collector bug though.
To the point of the thread: Considering the opposition being mounted by Big Tobacco to any regulation on nicotine in cigarettes and their involvement in developing and marketing e-cigs, I don't see dramatic regulation coming soon.
Taxes are another thing however.
To the point of the thread: Considering the opposition being mounted by Big Tobacco to any regulation on nicotine in cigarettes and their involvement in developing and marketing e-cigs, I don't see dramatic regulation coming soon.
Taxes are another thing however.
Zero nicotine is fine with me. I started with only 6mg/ml, DIY now and could care less about the nic. I make batches without it, don't notice any difference. As long as I can get PG/VG (or lay in a supply) I have enough of everything else to last until my daisy days.
More so Big Pharma, and probably government tax revenue.
But yeah, Big Tobacco is also in the mix now.
No, no, no, no... we do NOT use pure nicotine in DIY. At most we use 10% nicotine, otherwise known as 100 mgs/ml. The stuff you linked to is made to be used with a full chem suit and a chemical exhaust hood. Even the fumes are dangerous. Please do your homework before posting links like that.
I don't think we should induce panic saying the FDA will ban nicotine in juice. If they ban nicotine then you can expect 90% of vapers to become non-vapers.
I do expect the FDA to regulate how much Nic is in juice, but to ban it all together is pointless because then they will have to address all the tobacco products that contain nicotine. Why would it be okay to have nicotine in cigarettes, dip, chew, cigars, etc, and not in vaping juice?
I do expect the FDA to regulate how much Nic is in juice, but to ban it all together is pointless because then they will have to address all the tobacco products that contain nicotine. Why would it be okay to have nicotine in cigarettes, dip, chew, cigars, etc, and not in vaping juice?
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