Fiber Freak : wicking material specially made for vaping

[disley]

I'm a believer, haha, fiber freaks works.
I have density one and density two, I prefer density two.
FF is like any wicking material, you need to get the right amount for the best results.
With FF less is best.
Be as skeptical as you like, I was convinced ... organic cotton was the go.
Now I'm convinced FF is better.
Fortunately I can afford the few cents extra it costs to use FF.

 

[stephanep]

just send me the free sample with your world stamp. Ill tell you if i approve or not.

Ok. I send you a pad. see https://www.facebook.com/fiberfreaks/photos/pcb.790787874349717/790786224349882/?type=1&theater for instruction. It doesn't take volume with juice like cotton, so you have to put enough of it in order to touch all the surface of the coil. You have to feel a slight resistance when you put it trough.
For a 3 mm diam ==> 10 mm large.
For 2,5 mm diam ==> 8 mm large.

If not enough ff, you taste a drop in flavor.

If you don't make too long legs, you have enough for 15 or 20 coils.

≃1 week for delivery in prior.

mp for mailbox.

 

[sahsah]

Fiber Freaks » Shops Online – EUROPE
Do you need me to google "fiberfreak europe" ?
Don't lose your time and your bucks with ff. Stay with your graham.
I still have coton bacon, rayon, coton and a few pad of japonese stuff. I will never use them. I can send you all the stuff for 12 buck by post mail.
pm if you want.

Are you responding to me? Can't tell bc you didn't quote...anyway, if you are, I'm not sure what you're asking. Why would I want you to google it? My point was that your statement was ridiculous in that their is no anything, perhaps besides water and air, that all of Europe uses...no amount of google searches will change that.mbtw, it strikes me as odd how tenaciously and vehemently you've been defending fiber freaks. Like, it goes beyond what I think a supportive consumer or fan of the product would do. Is that invested interest I sense...?
Ps. I don't use Graham's, I use Japanese cotton and love it =]

 

[stephanep]

Are you responding to me? Can't tell bc you didn't quote...anyway, if you are, I'm not sure what you're asking. Why would I want you to google it? My point was that your statement was ridiculous in that their is no anything, perhaps besides water and air, that all of Europe uses...no amount of google searches will change that.mbtw, it strikes me as odd how tenaciously and vehemently you've been defending fiber freaks. Like, it goes beyond what I think a supportive consumer or fan of the product would do. Is that invested interest I sense...?
Ps. I don't use Graham's, I use Japanese cotton and love it =]

Yeah that's it, im the owner of ff. You got me, sherlock holmes. Happy for you and your japonese make-up remover.

 

[smiddlet68]

Yeah that's it, im the owner of ff. You got me, sherlock holmes. Happy for you and your japonese make-up remover.

Wow, I was just cruising thru looking at the new post. Stephanep, just a quick observation for you. i wouldn't even look at this product now based on your previous comments. in fact when and if this product comes over to this side of the Pond I probably still wont try it because of its representation here today. there is a definite miscommunication going on here

 

[Alien Traveler]

Yeah that's it, im the owner of ff. You got me, sherlock holmes. Happy for you and your japonese make-up remover.

What a sorry piece of post.
You know, after your comments only an idiot would buy this fiber-freak.
Sorry, I do not like excessive marketing.

 

[Verb]

He was nice enough to send me a sample for nothing. It was pretty good. After running several tests, considering cost, I'll stick to Graham's. I still want to try some medical rayon balls.

 

[IDJoel]

Personally I think we are only dealing with a language barrier here. Maybe even some misconception.

Let's try clear things up

Rayon is a material obtained from celulose through a certain process which varies according to the needs of the buyer.

Tencel, viscose, lyocell, rayon, cellucotton are all rayon fibers. Some are thinner, some are thicker, some are longer, some are shorter, some are compressed, some are "fluffy", some are strait, some are curly.

Obviously, some work better at sucking liquids than others. There are hundreds of different sources of rayon in common products. We are just starting to look for them and finding new ones every day.

O. B tampons for example is one of them

Now in my personal, subjective experience, tidi balls work better in my atty than Sally cellucotton. I actually felt a night and day difference. However, both are in fact rayon fibers.

You say fiberfreaks are superior. Maybe they are, I never tried those (they were out of stock at pink mule last time I ordered stuff) but even if they are so superb, that doesn't change the fact that it's rayon. The fiber may be more adequate to vaping, it might even be fantastic but... It's still rayon.

Finally, you said fiberfreaks doesn't burn. I bet it does, just like any rayon or cotton fiber. Make a video of you putting a dry fiberfreaks wick into a coil an fire the mod until the coil glows red and show us the fiberfreak wick won't burn.

There are many ways to pass a message. Being obnoxious, aggressive and rude doesn't help at all. Even if some people on this thread were considering FF to try out, I'm pretty sure you scared away half of them.

My two euro cents


Regards
Tony

Sent from my keyboard through my phone or something like that.

Thanks tchavei for attempting to keep this in the realm of a coherent conversation. I found mention of this product on another thread and curiosity led me to this one. Sadly; in less than a page it seems to have lost any merit of being informative.

As someone who has not used (or even heard of this product) and finding little beneficial information here I spent a couple of hours and did a little basic research myself. Here is what I found:

1. Fiber Freaks (hereafter "FF") is a manufactured "cellulosic fiber" (similar/related to rayon). It is manufactured by the lyocell process (end product is generically known as lyocell, or by its most common trade name, "Tencel")(Primary source is FF home page FAQs, secondary sources multiple sites defining "lyocell" and "Tencel.")

2. The lyocell process does seem to use only an organic, nontoxic compound (N-methylmorpholine N-oxide or NMMO) to extract wanted cellulose material which may be extracted/reclaimed at a rate up to 99.8% and reused in a closed loop system (multiple sources).

3. lyocell (in general) does appear to be a better choice than cotton if you are wanting a more environmentally friendly product (both in growth and production/processing)(multiple sources).

4. lyocell (in general) can be up to 50% more absorbent than cotton (source; Natural Life Magazine)

5. FF has a burn point of 460°C/860F (source; FF home page FAQs) which is nearly twice that of cotton (410-450F from multiple sites).

6. Per FF home page; 1 package generally yields 100-150 wicks (products page). At an average US website cost of $6.00/pkg. (only three sites found using FF's list of US distributors) that makes it 4-6 cents/coil. (this is 300-600%/coil cost more than what I average on a $12 box of Koh Gen Do).

7. Generally, reviews found on the web, are strongly positive. Most say they would purchase again and/or has their preferred wicking material. (none stated that they would not recommend, all had some minor objection/s)(note: I did not include reviewers that were selling the FF).

So... my initial impressions at this point? I like the "green"/environmental aspect of the product. Safety? As virtually unknown/undocumented as every other component (when it comes to inhalation) used in vaping. If cost is not my dominant priority, this very well may be worthy of further exploration and trial. Is this the "holy grail" of wicks?" I'm not even remotely convinced. But I am intrigued enough to research the known US providers to see if I can find one I am comfortable giving my credit card info to.

For what it's worth...

(p.s. I bookmarked my sources; so anyone wanting to know them is more than welcome to ask)

 

[Steamix]

Yep, getting back to facts...

Always raises scepticism when someone goes overly enthusiastic on someting - even after deducting the 'fanboy/girl' quotient.,,
Prime example of viral marketing backfiring

'Lyocell' is widely used in making bedpsreads, beedsheets and pillow cases.
Reckon its spun fibers of the same stuff.

Been around for a while with many people sleeping surrounded by that stuff. And there always some fiber shedding.
Looking at how much fluff has accumulated in the filter of the clothes dryer from just one fillig, I wonder anyway...

Means also that lycocell **appears** to be o.k. for wicking purposes. Been around long in close proximity to humans - by now we'd heard or read of any serious issues.

Metallics, ceramics, organics --- sooner or later, anything remotely capable of transporting liqid will end up in an atty ..

 

[JeremyR]

@op

Is fiber freaks better than cotton of course it is, its rayon man. It's not that special. The first pages of my thread detail lyocell rayon back when no one considered using rayon..

It's so popular because rayon is the bomb and its taken the world by storm.. (Your welcome) They packaged it for vaping that's all, making it easier to attain.

Profiting from the world wide market that I, and my friends here at ecf, created..

There would be no ff otherwise. Better ask somebody...

 

[IDJoel]

My order of preference is.. Pharmaceutical rayon, rayon balls, and lastly Sally's

Where are you able to get pharmaceutical rayon (coil; I am guessing)? All I can find, through a google search, are wholesalers.

Thanks.

 

[Verb]

Where are you able to get pharmaceutical rayon (coil; I am guessing)? All I can find, through a google search, are wholesalers.

Thanks.

Stuffed in the top of a pill bottle.

 

[IDJoel]

Stuffed in the top of a pill bottle.

Thanks. I was hoping for a retail source; as I don't take vitamins/supplements/prescriptions.

 

[Verb]

Thanks. I was hoping for a retail source; as I don't take vitamins/supplements/prescriptions.

I have searched and searched. I think the only way it's going to happen is a group buy. But, the smallest container I could find might still be too large for that.

 

[IDJoel]

I have searched and searched. I think the only way it's going to happen is a group buy. But, the smallest container I could find might still be too large for that.

I'm inclined to agree. The one wholesaler whose website would list any ordering info was showing 10+ 18-22 pound boxes minimum! (And of course no pricing.)

Maybe, if you could round up 10,000 vapers, you might be able get a reasonable 'group' buy. <sigh>